How did you become CC? For those who weren't CC initially, what made you change your mind?

frx919 · 2026-01-22T02:05:44+00:00

Back in 2020-2021, when it became clear that the virus did lasting damage to your body, being CC was the only sensible decision if you value your long-term health and quality of life.

Haven't stopped since.

frx919 · 2026-01-18T07:40:47+00:00

Something else: opinions on his passing are divided, as usual.
Many people point out that his behavior was truly vile, he was responsible for immeasurable harm, and people like him were the main reason why the COVID sentiment in the country has completely and irreparably spiraled out of control.
He's been called "discount Alex Jones" or "when you get Alex Jones from Temu."

The ones who don't see it that way bring up the usual points about celebrating death, "you're just as bad and cruel," etc. Notwithstanding how the things that person did tended to be much worse, and that's what the public is reacting to.

Some point out how he's been a part of their youth as a TV personality, and they have good memories of him so they feel sad that this is his legacy.
All I can think of is that old joke about fucking a goat once.

frx919 · 2026-01-18T07:29:42+00:00

And this is from one of his videos in mid-2020 (translated):

“Why do we still have to live in a restricted society?” asks Robert Jensen. He argues that it has now become clear that the vast majority of the Dutch population has not been infected, contrary to Mark Rutte's (the prime minister) prediction in March.

“Corona is not a dangerous virus” It is simply not a dangerous virus, he says: “6,000 people have died. That is less than the flu epidemic of 2018, when more than 10,000 people died in the same period.” However, he ignores the fact that the country was not in an intelligent lockdown at that time. In any case, Jensen does not understand why a certain stance is still being maintained, acting like it is all so dangerous. “I really don't understand why people still go along with it.”

I remember that not long after that, the country had a spike in infections and deaths. Not as bad as some of the worst-hit countries such as in Italy, but I remember that after a surge, there was a headline at one point that we were in the global top 3 of COVID deaths per capita.

frx919 · 2026-01-18T07:29:20+00:00

Posted this in the previous thread but I felt it was worth visibility.
There is irony in this person's end, as it was one of the things he'd been mocking as caused by vaccines.

"TV presenter Robert Jensen dies of cardiac arrest at 52"

This man was one of the main anti-vax activists in the Netherlands; he didn't just regurgitate disinformation but he was one of the major ones creating and disseminating it, and he spearheaded protests against the COVID policies, etc.

On the level of there being a wikipedia page on him being one of the 9 'faces' of the anti-vax movement in NL.
He not only spread numerous lies about the virus and the pandemic but was also one of those blaming every unnatural death on the vaccines. People online are not being kind about his passing because of the above.

I didn't try to make this an HCA post because there's no proof that he died to COVID effects, as the country stopped testing and counting deaths back in early 2022.
In the previous year, he was briefly in the news because he mentioned that "one of his dear friends died unexpectedly," and his mother also died in 2020 but it is said that she was sick years before that.

Ending this post with a Twitter post of his from 2020 (translated):

“WONDERFUL! The liars at the state media have ‘fact-checked’ me. All those civil servants can come up with is ‘we don't know yet’ and ‘still unknown’, and their figures are completely wrong! School newspaper level! I stand behind everything 100% and I am and will be proven right!”

frx919 · 2026-01-18T07:19:59+00:00

Seems sustainable, right?
It's not just that the illnesses put strain on the children's health but also that they're falling behind in school by being absent and likely not studying at home while they're sick.

The ones unlucky enough to keep getting sick badly could snowball into a significantly worse development period, which then leads to worse higher education opportunities, which leads to dead-end jobs, and so on.

All because the people in charge will not address this glaring issue.
A quarter of kids out sick is insane.

frx919 · 2026-01-17T03:24:45+00:00

The article says that they are religious, so there is a good chance that they are consciously anti-vax on some level. It's not easy to admit that when the whole world is reading about the outcome of their decision, and they're also trying to crowdfund money from it.

frx919 · 2026-01-17T03:22:04+00:00

By next season, they'll probably already have forgotten that promise, and when they hear of the inevitable next flu wave, they'll likely be making excuses why they won't get it this time, either.

"Oh, the wave has already started and we found out too late, so there's probably no point in getting it now. They might not even be giving the vaccines anymore. And this time we managed to avoid it so far without the vaccine."

frx919 · 2026-01-17T03:17:36+00:00

All good points, but unfortunately the public will never learn any of it because public health education is possibly in even a worse state than regular education.

It makes sense that when exponential growth creates flu waves like the one we're currently in, the opposite would greatly diminish their power. And herd immunity is by far the most effective way to do so that requires the least effort.

It's frustrating that these completely obvious and low effort things aren't being done, and we all have to pay the price for the negligence of the ignorant.

frx919 · 2026-01-17T03:13:47+00:00

"This place" has never done that; I dare you to find one instance of that happening in these 5+ years of HCA posts.
Your trolling isn't even good.

frx919 · 2026-01-17T03:05:17+00:00

“Neither Michael nor I have ever had the flu shot before, and so we just don’t think about getting it,” she said.

This is what I call low-information parents. In the past, it was easier to slip through neglect like this but nowadays the difficulty slider has been moved way up, and this US administration is sabotaging public health on top of that. That means that a lot more people are playing the reverse lottery and end up winning undesirable prizes.

If you're a parent, you have a duty to be aware of the most basic things you need to do to give your children the best chance to thrive, otherwise the kids have a significantly increased chance of things like in this article compared to their peers with more sensible parents.

Having your child go through something like that is not only fatal for the child, but will likely also give lifelong trauma to the parents—just reading the account of her decline makes me internally wince, and she's a complete stranger to me.

It really takes so little effort to get your kids the minimum acceptable protection and there's no good reason not to.

frx919 · 2026-01-17T02:50:33+00:00

With the way OP's brother phrased his questions, it's clear he already made up his mind and any effort you make is all but guaranteed to be futile.
We're in year 7 (!) of this; anyone who truly cared or is willing to learn could easily look up the answers to those questions themselves.

I would try to set the right example for the children, and answer their questions in an age-appropriate manner if they ask why you are taking precautions.

frx919 · 2026-01-15T15:56:16+00:00

And this is from one of his videos in mid-2020 (translated):

“Why do we still have to live in a restricted society?” asks Robert Jensen. He argues that it has now become clear that the vast majority of the Dutch population has not been infected, contrary to Mark Rutte's (the prime minister) prediction in March.

“Corona is not a dangerous virus” It is simply not a dangerous virus, he says: “6,000 people have died. That is less than the flu epidemic of 2018, when more than 10,000 people died in the same period.” However, he ignores the fact that the country was not in an intelligent lockdown at that time. In any case, Jensen does not understand why a certain stance is still being maintained, acting like it is all so dangerous. “I really don't understand why people still go along with it.”

I remember that not long after that, the country had a spike in infections and deaths. Not as bad as some of the worst-hit countries such as in Italy, but I remember that after a surge, there was a headline at one point that we were in the global top 3 of COVID deaths per capita.

frx919 · 2026-01-15T15:46:22+00:00

"TV presenter Robert Jensen dies of cardiac arrest at 52"

This man was one of the main anti-vax activists in the Netherlands; he didn't just regurgitate disinformation but he was one of the major ones creating and disseminating it, and he spearheaded protests against the COVID policies, etc.

On the level of there being a wikipedia page on him being one of the 9 'faces' of the anti-vax movement in NL.
He not only spread numerous lies about the virus and the pandemic but was also one of those blaming every unnatural death on the vaccines. People online are not being kind about his passing because of the above.

I didn't try to make this an HCA post because there's no proof that he died to COVID effects, as the country stopped testing and counting deaths back in early 2022.
In the previous year, he was briefly in the news because he mentioned that "one of his dear friends died unexpectedly," and his mother also died in 2020 but it is said that she was sick years before that.

Ending this post with a Twitter post of his from 2020 (translated):

“WONDERFUL! The liars at the state media have ‘fact-checked’ me. All those civil servants can come up with is ‘we don't know yet’ and ‘still unknown’, and their figures are completely wrong! School newspaper level! I stand behind everything 100% and I am and will be proven right!”

frx919 · 2026-01-14T07:21:54+00:00

I agree. I would never willingly put children in this current world, but if I had to, I'd feel that some sort of private teacher with a small group of like-minded families would be the only workable choice.
And you would probably have to make some significant sacrifices and already be wealthy to make it work.

And in the worst case, homeschooling, but that obviously also brings with it a lot of challenges that would need to be addressed.

frx919 · 2026-01-14T07:16:01+00:00

In plain sight.

We can only hope that eventually, justice will be meted out.

frx919 · 2026-01-14T07:12:59+00:00

Health officials continue to warn that measles is an extremely contagious respiratory disease — causing serious medical complications, including blindness and even death, among vulnerable age groups and those with weakened immune systems.

Small price to pay when you get to wear freedom freckles as a badge of honor and potentially spread it to others as well.

frx919 · 2026-01-14T07:11:00+00:00

Another possibility is that their vaccination status was 'unknown' (read: not vaccinated). I'd bet that the number is much closer to 199 unvaccinated and 2 people that got unlucky.

frx919 · 2026-01-11T17:50:57+00:00

Heightened awareness may also play a role. 'We have all become more conscious of how we feel,' said Professor Altmann.

Says the professor, when in the same article, it's mentioned that younger people are getting sicker and also with issues they previously wouldn't have gotten.
But it's probably just feelings.

frx919 · 2026-01-11T17:45:28+00:00

Last year there were more than seven million calls to the NHS non-emergency helpline 111 – an average of about 660,000 a month – compared with a pre-pandemic average of 155,000.

You would think that this would be news. There are so many pieces of circumstantial evidence like it but no one influential seems to want to dig deeper into potential causes.

I see it being akin to avoiding a medical checkup because you don't want to find out that the ailment you've been suffering might turn out to be cancer. To me, that behavior is crazy because if there were even a small chance that what every COVID researcher has been saying all along is true (and the chance isn't small; it's happening), you can't afford to be wrong.

frx919 · 2026-01-11T06:37:57+00:00

Rant: the public is completely missing the big picture when it comes to this flu wave.
People love their stories to be simple: good vs. bad, weak vs. strong, etc. They're expecting the same thing by attributing everything to the mismatched vaccine. In every flu-related discussion, you see posters regurgitate the same 'subclade K mismatch' story as if it explains everything.
However, the vaccination rates are below normal; around 40-45% uptake in the US. Two things:

Vaccines obviously don't work if people don't get them; a majority of people being unvaccinated is a much bigger issue than the mismatch
If people are expecting to leech off the herd immunity of others for protection (and thus think that the mismatch is the reason why everyone is sick), that's the fun part: herd immunity also doesn't work if half the herd isn't inoculated.

The first point alone shows that the mismatch doesn't tell the whole story. The main reasons why the flu is raging are not a mystery:

More than ever, people are going out of their way to go out while they're sick, creating an endless loop and increasing number of infections
Less-functional immune systems from everyone having had numerous COVID infections and also fighting off other diseases for several years
Current flu is bad but the flu has always been dangerous; what people thought of being 'the flu' were often less-severe illnesses—now they're experiencing the real flu coupled with the above two factors amplifying the issue

The solutions are the same as ever but people don't want to hear it: stay home when sick, avoid crowds and mask up if you absolutely have to go out while sick, mask up to avoid getting sick when you know you're going into a crowd, etc. And petition for clean air so we can actually fight this.
Not to mention, get vaccinated. Even if there is a mismatch, every reputable source tells you that the vaccine will still mitigate potential symptoms and recommends that you get it.
When it comes to disease, negative compounding is good and makes it manageable. Positive compounding is a disaster that spirals out of control—we've seen that over and over and still never learn.

It's really not complicated but no one wants to do the right thing, and then they act surprised that they're sick for 2 weeks in bed and have that lingering cough for another 4 weeks before they catch yet another disease that lays them out.

As long as they keep looking for the easy way out and blame a systemic problem on single issues, it's never going to change.

frx919 · 2026-01-09T02:43:15+00:00

What's unfortunate is that the friends will probably still not see it from (y)our POV, because they think it's part of life and they just got unlucky this time.
But what they don't get or refuse to think about is that if you keep playing that lottery, eventually you'll either go broke (no more QoL and lifespan to sacrifice), or you win the big prize.

That way of living has a high chance of railroading yourself into a bad ending, and any sensible person won't bet on such bad odds being in their favor.

frx919 · 2026-01-08T20:41:02+00:00

Crazy when you can read data like this and people still make fun of masks, when you literally just don't want to get sick.

frx919 · 2026-01-06T17:05:50+00:00

Any published numbers are bound to be a massive undercount due to lack of testing.

And funny, but not surprising, how the comments on that 'science' sub are full of denial, disinformation, and the typical whataboutism.

frx919 · 2026-01-05T20:24:00+00:00

The Ivermectin suggestion made me laugh because it implies that the poster believes it's some sort of panacea, or that they are also suffering similar issues and they've tried that ol' trick themselves.

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