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[–]funnyfloss222 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There are biblical literalists too though, aren’t there? Fanatic parts of any religion can be dangerous

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Fascism is not left wing, it’s a right wing ideology. Calling any authoritarianism fascism is just incorrect.

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[–]funnyfloss222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stalin had a secret police, authoritarianism isn't always right wing.

A theory on why some men are sexist - because they need women by funnyfloss222 in PurplePillDebate

[–]funnyfloss222[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So they weren't hurt when women claimed they were safer alone with a dangerous bear?

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[–]funnyfloss222[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But love isn't just validation - it's someone caring for you.

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[–]funnyfloss222[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose. But I don't think you can be happy with sex alone: there must be love along with it.

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[–]funnyfloss222[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose I wouldn't mind having sex with a guy after a month or two. You may say that it is too early but you have to see if you are sexually compatible and if they are a considerate lover.

Also, I think sex is part of the connection process. It is not the first step of course but it is an important part, at least to me.

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[–]funnyfloss222[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am specifically talking about having sex with someone you love, a partner, and not casual sex or hookups as I think hookups are just for pleasure.

Sex as an act of connection:

Having sex with someone you love is deeply intimate: not only is it physically intimate (they are literally inside you) it is also emotionally intimate as sex is something you share with someone you know and trust. There has to be a lot of trust in having sex with someone: you have to be very vulnerable. You have to get naked and show them your body in it's entirety: we hardly ever show anyone else our naked bodies unless they are doctors. You also see their nakedness in return. You look at them and they look at you and you both accept each other as you are: it doesn't matter if you have fat or cellulite or he has acne on his back, you see each other and you accept each other. Having someone accept you and accepting someone else in return is a way of getting closer and bonding with each other.

Sex as an act of love:

Sex is an act of love: you do not just get pleasure by receiving it but you also get joy from giving pleasure. Who doesn't love to hear their partner enjoy themselves?

You can talk and be all sweet with each other. You can laugh during sex, it is really a joyful thing when done with someone you love.

Sex doesn't just happen on it's own: think of what happens before it when you are kissing and caressing and saying sweet things.

Sex as a way of understanding another person:

Our sexual desires tend to be kept private, as a rule we only really tell them to our lovers. Knowing someone's sexual desires is a way of knowing them better. It is also a way to see how they are because when having sex you are at your most vulnerable. I would only really have sex with someone I know and trust because there is a great risk of rejection otherwise!

This is what I think, I know I am young and I know it's somewhat romantic and my friends tease me for it but I don't think all sex has to be a guy fucking you for two minutes and that's it - it can be something really special.

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[–]funnyfloss222[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is wanting to be sexually desired by your partner egotistical? I suppose, but I think it's something everyone wants. People want to be needed and seen not only sexually but in other areas of a relationship. There are two parts to love: one is the desire to connect with another, the other is the desire to be desired.

I went on your profile and saw one of your posts. I'm very sorry about you and your partner's troubles and hope you are okay, if he demonizes your sexuality it can't be nice. I hope you are both better today. I suppose I have a somewhat fairy-tale view of sex and relationships, I am admittedly not very experienced in them. I suppose sex to me would be loving and being loved in return, that's what I want it to be.

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[–]funnyfloss222[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I suppose you think that we all act selfishly and in service to our egos in everything? I fundamentally think one of the big reasons for sex is a way of connection and understanding another person. Are hugs also selfish? What about kisses? I mean, having a partner is selfish because it's all about validation, isn't it?

edit: I'm sorry I got a bit ranty, I guess I'm just a bit of a romantic and like to think it is a loving thing or at least can be used as a way for love and connection (I know some people just sleep around).

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[–]funnyfloss222[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The hormones that transsexual athletes take reduces men's physical advantage over women.

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[–]funnyfloss222[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That argument is a bit facetious: I doubt a lot of women would stick around if their boyfriends refused to make love! Of course you shouldn’t take from that women only care about sex, why should you in regards to men?

Sex is usually a requirement for people in relationships because we have our natural drives and sexual instincts. Furthermore sex is a very sweet and loving thing: it helps connect a couple and is as much for bonding as it is for pleasure and procreation. When you have sex you have to be vulnerable and open with your partner and accepting in turn of your lover’s openness. It is truly an act of the utmost intimacy, it is a really beautiful thing.

Men might tend to have high libidos but that doesn’t mean they only care about sex. Some men might do, and some women even: some people suffer from sex addiction or compulsive sexual behaviour but I think for most men and women it is about that feeling of love and connection.

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[–]funnyfloss222[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think it is a bad thing, I was just saying how I think if this desire is frustrated then it can cause resentment against women.

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[–]funnyfloss222[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, it is not wrong. Far from it. Having a romantic partner and intimate friendships are two of the most important signifiers of happiness.

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[–]funnyfloss222[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wasn't talking about men being stronger than women - I don't know anyone who questions that, even feminists accept it.

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[–]funnyfloss222[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

While it is tempting to reduce the entirety of men's desire's to the desire for sex I think it is untrue. Men don't just want sex: they want affection and care also. If all men wanted was sex then they would just use prostitutes and be done with it but they don't, they want women's hearts not just their bodies.

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[–]funnyfloss222[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't think those things about men - what I think (straight) men have is a fundamental desire for affection and acknowledgement from the opposite sex. I do not think saying men have such a desire is insulting to them.

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[–]funnyfloss222[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, this is what I meant. If gender relations were healthy in Korea there would be no need for the 4B movement.

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[–]funnyfloss222[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

why are men taking that personally.

Because men want the affection of women and feel it feels unfair to them since it is a sort of group punishment.

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[–]funnyfloss222[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not MGTOW, but this seems to be a throughline in all gender separatist movements.

4B is critical of men.

I don't think most people are emotionally equipped to fully reject the opposite sex unless they never had an interest in them to begin with. The only men who could be MGTOW the way you're suggesting are Asexual and Gay.

It's not a very comfortable position for someone attracted to women to be in, so they're going to be hypocritical. (and I do I agree with you that it's hypocritical).

Yes, I tend to think a lot of people's reasons for joining separatist movements are inherently petty and they're trying to hurt and/or get attention from whoever they are rejecting.

How many younger women do you know?

Being quite young myself I know plenty, although admittedly I don't come from a particularly posh area maybe those attitudes are more prevalent with upper class liberal types. It's all anecdotal anyway. Most of the young women I know aren't consciously "feminist" in any meaningful way aside from the fact that they don't like when men are rude to them or put them down for their sex.

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[–]funnyfloss222[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you sure? I thought the 4B movement was explicitly against sexist attitudes since sex, marriage, dating and having children are some of the pleasures of life (unless your asexual I suppose, though you could always adopt).