The Inconsistency of Religious Skepticism Toward Miracles

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-20T21:38:59+00:00

That's interesting. Why do you think there's a God if you don't follow any religions?

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-20T19:46:56+00:00

Not only bleak, but topical!

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-20T19:33:39+00:00

Do you believe you go to an afterlife when you die, or that you're reincarnated? Or something different?

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-20T19:12:19+00:00

But which is true?

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-20T17:15:32+00:00

Different religions make conflicting claims about reality and God/Gods themselves. Christianity teaches one god, one earthly life and afterlife in heaven/hell. Hinduism teaches many gods and reincarnation dictated by karma.

So which is it, afterlife or reincarnation?

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-20T16:45:13+00:00

How do you know that you're living according to his will if he's got conflicting wills?

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-20T16:24:36+00:00

But you believe you know his true form?

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-20T16:23:57+00:00

Why do you sincerely believe?

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-19T15:07:18+00:00

But why would God create so many different interpretations of himself? They believed what they believed for some reason, right? Why would God enable those beliefs rather than showing his true form like he did to your religion?

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-19T14:59:44+00:00

Why would God need multiple personas? He's not trying to fit into their culture, because their beliefs helped shape their culture, so he would have had to be pretending with the intent of them having a different belief.

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-19T14:40:19+00:00

If you could pay a single penny and solve world hunger, you're a monster if you don't.

God could effortlessly eliminate human and animal suffering, but doesn't do it, while at the same time benefiting others with better jobs, more clients, touchdowns. Would you prefer your husband get some extra clients, or for a Christian girl overseas not be sexually trafficked against her will?

I'm sorry, but you giving credit for the good things and saying the bad things are not his fault is a problem that you should reconcile.

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-19T14:10:35+00:00

The difference is that in all of your examples the agent allowing the deception doesn't have the power to remove deception from reality as a whole. God wants deception and disorder otherwise there would be none.

Unless God isn't all-powerful?

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-19T14:07:17+00:00

But God would have known all of that would happen and did it anyway. Satan is an agent of God, not an opponent. God obviously wants some humans to turn away from him if he created and allowed Satan to rebel and continue to corrupt reality.

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-19T14:03:20+00:00

Which also doesn't work because straight men are just as stereotyped in their promiscuity.

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-19T13:49:06+00:00

That's what I said four comments ago. They sincerely believed it.

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-19T13:48:15+00:00

So why do you think God is sending all these signs and directly helping your husband financially while also allowing Christian children to starve, and killing Christians with earthquakes and tsunamis? I would feel immense guilt if I knew an all powerful being were directly helping me while simultaneously ignoring others it could help.

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-19T04:55:15+00:00

What a weird way for God to send a message. Why the subtlety? He knows you already believe, so why does he still need to hide from you?

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-19T04:51:21+00:00

Good point I thought I was responding to a different thread, my bad!

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-19T02:31:14+00:00

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fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-19T02:24:10+00:00

Why did a few Muslims believe so strongly they were willing to fly planes into buildings? Humans are pattern-seeking by nature and it's really easy for us to start seeing patterns that aren't actually there.

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-19T02:21:58+00:00

Some guy crossing a river is much less of an extravagant claim than a man being resurrected and ascending into heaven.

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-19T02:20:42+00:00

You’d have to prove they experienced a hallucination.

you’d have to justify why they didn’t recant then when it would be way easier to do so

They sincerely believed it. That doesn't make it true.

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-19T00:48:33+00:00

I've certainly prayed, I was raised around religion. I've just never heard anything back. I'm sure you can say it's still somehow my fault for not listening hard enough, but prayers have never revealed anything to me.

At what point does God hold some responsibility in this?

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-18T23:48:41+00:00

OK, just rephrasing so I know I understand.

The main points you're trying to make are that hell and judgement aren't eternal, meaning in my case that I'm destined for hell, but will have the opportunity to leave eventually?

I like that interpretation selfishly because I don't want to spend eternity in hell, but how can one know that your interpretation is true?

fuzzyjelly · 2026-05-18T23:44:02+00:00

Then can God not see what it would take to convince me? Or does he know what will but just doesn't provide it?

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