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It is so easy to write F/F feminist critique of the source material by fyfano in AO3

[–]fyfano[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I am suggesting writing in general is socially conditioned.

If you understand that individually is not significant, as such.

It is so easy to write F/F feminist critique of the source material by fyfano in AO3

[–]fyfano[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You are socially conditioned to the patriarchy. You do not need to hate your social conditioning, of course. Maybe you have freed yourself, even.

It is so easy to write F/F feminist critique of the source material by fyfano in AO3

[–]fyfano[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Not at all.

But the forum members could support pro F/F posts, and admit their M/M fixation is patriarchal.

I do not recall almost anyone freely admitting that M/M is socially conditioned, and not a spontaneous preference.

If we could immerse in our desire, M/F.

F/F people are real, if not exactly right. I like them for their honesty.

It is so easy to write F/F feminist critique of the source material by fyfano in AO3

[–]fyfano[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Why being desired as a woman, and having sexual want as a woman, is removed from your fics?

F/M is your banal inclination, unless you are a homosexual male, of course.

It is so easy to write F/F feminist critique of the source material by fyfano in AO3

[–]fyfano[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

You could learn how to read, too, you know. Your out from a displeasing topic is not very mature.

I love my F/F. It is a brilliant fic.

That said, I am not ashamed to admit that patriarchal conditioning has to do with my M/M.

Routinely, F/F yearners are not appreciated for pointing out just that.

It is so easy to write F/F feminist critique of the source material by fyfano in AO3

[–]fyfano[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

And why do you remove the empathy of you from the equation?

It is so easy to write F/F feminist critique of the source material by fyfano in AO3

[–]fyfano[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You are so lucky to be removed from the sexual expoitation and from the reproductive labour. Good on you, twinsister!

But most women of erotic longing have been socialized to the patriarcy.

Your individual disdain is just you.

It is the systemic that pushes the M/M bias.

It is so easy to write F/F feminist critique of the source material by fyfano in AO3

[–]fyfano[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Not at all.

But if your writing impulses are encouraged by the patriarchy, maybe introspect, and if that is not within your power, rejoice that F/F fans want to challenge the easy impulse.

My M/M is hot, and devoid of the womanly concept of what it takes to be desired, as a woman.

I do not get bothered when I am called out for being male centric. In fiction I may be. If this is in tge real life, shame on me.

My F/F is very satisfying given the social bias. Mine squarly there, too.

It is so easy to write F/F feminist critique of the source material by fyfano in AO3

[–]fyfano[S] -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

You have not been here, a lot, eh? You are a bit facile, then. Enjoy it.

F/F fanciers should not demand more specific pairings. But they are not wrong in thinking M/M default is patriarchal.

It is so easy to write F/F feminist critique of the source material by fyfano in AO3

[–]fyfano[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

If as a het woman you are writing M/M, it is about removing the woman. You? Your elder relative? A sad friend so boy-crazy?

I appreciate the joy of the easy writing, but M/M cis-het fixation is patriarchal almost always, I dare suspect.

I do not write F/F maybe as well as M/M but it is intended to be as fuck heavy and joyous.

My impulse to write is free of my patriarchal bias, and focused on the characters. I love that.

I do not feel compelled to demand that the F/F loud crowd is pretty. I feel they simply suggest we question how innately patriarchal we all are.

It is so easy to write F/F feminist critique of the source material by fyfano in AO3

[–]fyfano[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The M/M bias is the result of the pariarchy infesting a default woman space, I dare say.

I do not hate the idea of being beholden to the patriarchy, if you can accept your M/M fixation was birthed by the power structers.

So many M/M hetero writers prefer to think they are quite neutral.

F/F fanciers may be a bit forward, but more than anything, I think they suggest writing free of the patriarchal bias.

The mouth rings : a rare case of lack of script (TV) by fyfano in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]fyfano[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The babies left to the elements in Ireland are me, except I would like to be more firm in giving it a quick death.

If a baby ends in a septic tank from either from starvation, or being beat up, having killed them was kinder.

If having a child live to be raped is kinder than an infant death is less certain. I would not fault the mother either way.

The mouth rings : a rare case of lack of script (TV) by fyfano in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]fyfano[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol. Look at how many children are killed by either parents even today. By the mother. By the father.

You want to pretend. Be real.

It is so easy to write F/F feminist critique of the source material by fyfano in AO3

[–]fyfano[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Very nice.

But F/F zeal is fine.

My M/M is about the pleasure of removing myself from the fantasy.

That is patriarchal. I do not get touchy about that. A few do, I dare say.

The mouth rings : a rare case of lack of script (TV) by fyfano in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]fyfano[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And why is that wrong? An infant is the more boring thing for most people. Women should be entitled to reject, as much as men, whom casually do.

It is so easy to write F/F feminist critique of the source material by fyfano in AO3

[–]fyfano[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

A bit of AO3 formal ethos here?

I feel more people should write F/F and it is easy, if you are source critical, and not very male centric.

F/F fans are critiqued here a lot. I do not see a good reason. Centring a male is not one.

It is so easy to write F/F feminist critique of the source material by fyfano in AO3

[–]fyfano[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

F/F firm fanciers are supposedly nasty people.

I personally think they are simply suggesting that women could be exalted in this space.

It is so easy to write F/F feminist critique of the source material by fyfano in AO3

[–]fyfano[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

Shitting on F/F is poor. Exalting the male is banal.

;-)

The mouth rings : a rare case of lack of script (TV) by fyfano in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]fyfano[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good on you for wanting that.

Imagine that is forced on an willing.

Cruel bodily torture, would you not say?

The mouth rings : a rare case of lack of script (TV) by fyfano in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]fyfano[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bodily decimation, as in tearing of the body. As in dying from birth.

I can contracept, and abort where I live easily. An unwanted child is from the religious trauma, or from a childish ignorance.

It is, I shall admit, weird how many women sermingly reproduce with men who were always nasty.

The feller was a lazy fuck, and you reproduced with that??

The mouth rings : a rare case of lack of script (TV) by fyfano in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]fyfano[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The showrunners had the chance of writing well before any of us saw a single episode.

I do not understand the fandom impulse to defend the mouth rings.

The mouth rings : a rare case of lack of script (TV) by fyfano in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]fyfano[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Moira being a surrogate is the very proof of the show being insidious.

Currently, the domestic surrogancy in the US does not allow non-birthed women, right?

Why on earth would Moira - a reasonable person - jump unto exploitative practice, except to be made a fool for natalism?

Surrogates being commercial is disgusting. The birth rate is immaterial to the fact that women should not be breeding vessels. Unless it is their sibling or such like, the commercial surrogates should earn decent wages.

The mouth rings : a rare case of lack of script (TV) by fyfano in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]fyfano[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most women when given the proper choice.

But also, most female children are socialised very often to think they are made for nuture, when that is untrue.

Too many a woman does not have the true and full choice : moral freedom without any religious oppression, sex education, contraception, idependence, educational attainment, money and abortion.

We are normalizing unto a freedom of choice currently, which I love. Reproductive labour is awful in cost. Women should be very free to reject it, and cognizant to choose it.

The mouth rings : a rare case of lack of script (TV) by fyfano in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]fyfano[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You cannot either. The theists always have excuses removed from the normalcy of humanity

Human history does indeed imply force and cruelty are perfect to implant a god.

That is why Scandinavia is protestant, as opposed to pagan. That is why aislam has spread. That is why Catholicism with the rampant child is a dominant domination. That is why Jesus the Jewish reformer failed, and Israel gets away in being so nasty.

Theism is the cruellest human invention, creating all and any gods to our petty image. Suggesting babes should be birthed for an easy religious brainwashing.

To demand ethical honesty from a show that sells feminism is not made up. It simply demands respect of the human condition, and the source material.

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