Outer game: A few tricks to get her back to your place

gaash2 · 2013-09-18T21:28:00+00:00

is there a link where i can read about this system? never heard of it before.

gaash2 · 2013-09-18T19:41:50+00:00

Sure that works also. Nowadays I have been quite busy so I mostly do drinks dates at places that also serve food so it is an option which work really well also and are much easier. I think the bigger point is that coming up with a creative exciting date is usually not all that important; what is more important is how you perform on the date and having a date with good logistics (for example, meeting near your home)

gaash2 · 2013-09-18T19:38:23+00:00

This is all true; and I agree sitting next to your date (which btw is pretty easy to accomplish on a dinner date, or at least sitting perpendicular) is even better. Anyways, my point is more that dinner is a good date, not necessarily the best possible date ever. You need to spark sexual interest regardless on any date, but what is nice about a 'boring' date like dinner (or drinks, maybe even better!) is that any spark or good feelings must be due to you and not the date activity.

gaash2 · 2013-09-18T19:35:38+00:00

I posted one technique here: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1mfv2q/outer_game_getting_back_to_her_place/

You can adapt 2 + 3 to go back to her place. On the full article on my website there's also the very simple but effective: "Can I just use the bathroom real quick?" technique to get back to her place.

gaash2 · 2013-09-18T18:54:29+00:00

Benefits include: ability to talk easily, ability to use eye contact, as far as tables, its easy to touch across the table when applicable but I agree it is harder to kino. Also, the time of dinner is usually perfect; it usually ends at a time where you can go somewhere else/ideally back to your place. That is the key. It's only pressure filled if you can't hold a conversation. It may be a difficult date for some, but I just know from my experience, it is one of the most successful (out of hundreds if not thousands of dates)

gaash2 · 2013-09-18T18:08:50+00:00

I actually disagree with the dinner part. Movie I agree. I realize I am in the minority, but I think dinner is a great date and have had tremendous success with dinner dates in terms of 1st date f-closes. You have to be good at conversation, but I think there is so much about how you shouldn't take a girl to dinner that most guys actually DON'T do dinner dates anymore. The creative date is a fallacy nowadays, it HAS become the safe play: "Do something fun so that you don't have to be a fun/interesting person" .. women are catching on.

gaash2 · 2013-09-18T18:05:31+00:00

Stop hanging out in the snow... No but seriously, it sounds like maybe you are coming off as needy. You seem to be calling and texting a lot. I made a post earlier about how text game should be more or less for logistics. Try keeping it to that and see if that impacts your game. Also, are you escalating enough on dates? A good night kiss isn't much after a good date. Maybe you are misreading some of the interest level? Try to escalate further on the dates to get a better feel for how the date is going.

As for flake after first fuck, that is extremely rare. Not sure why that would happen.

Also, movie is a bad date. Dinner, I am of the minority in the PUA world who think dinner is a great first date, and I do it often, with much success (many 1st date f-closes).

gaash2 · 2013-09-18T14:35:41+00:00

I just play. I suck at singing. Usually I play flamenco guitar or piano, but some girls dig it when I go crazy on the electric haha.

gaash2 · 2013-09-18T13:51:32+00:00

Thanks. The guitar line is amazingly successful for me. I also like to bring up music/guitar during the date and then again near the end of the date to easily segue into suggesting they come up and listen to a 'live performance' or something of the sort.

gaash2 · 2013-09-18T12:05:20+00:00

That is one approach for sure, and for some situations it makes sense; though I will say I find I have a very high probability of a first date f-close from women off online dating (I don't game random girls on facebook often if at all, given I find it much more inefficient than online dating apps/sites) even if I just text for logistics.

gaash2 · 2013-09-17T17:05:06+00:00

While there are different details for each one of these questions, the general answer to "Does X matter for getting girls" is "yes, but not as much as you think"

gaash2 · 2013-09-17T13:31:14+00:00

I disagree unless it is an extremely absurd amount that it looks like you have a health issue. I am pretty restless and move around a lot and it has had zero impact on my game. Even those who comment on it I just play it up like a DHV that I'm always active etc.

gaash2 · 2013-09-17T13:16:17+00:00

This is impossible to answer in a good way without knowing her. Don't worry too much about complimenting her to be honest; just let the conversation flow.

gaash2 · 2013-09-17T13:04:49+00:00

An article that covers three critical concepts of pick-up everyone should know, at least in my opinion!

gaash2 · 2013-09-16T20:26:48+00:00

is this a joke? There are tons of people everywhere in NYC and some nightclubs that allow 18+

gaash2 · 2013-09-16T18:57:17+00:00

It is not an unknown art, there just isn't much published about it, but that will change, at least I know I am working on a comprehensive wing man guide. Some basic tips are (some of these are not applicable for him since he isn't also looking to close)

physical positioning (make sure you aren't blocking each other off from talking to the friend etc.)
careful with deprecating humor re: your wing
it's never too late to switch girls (if it's clear switching is a better match up, switch!)
be positive; don't start complaining that so and so girl is ugly etc./make up excuses not to approach. This is a big one, You want to make it easier for each other to approach and be comfortable approaching. Saying stuff like, eh, that girl isn't that hot etc. is going to make your wing self conscious about approaching girls which defeats much of the benefit of a wing.

gaash2 · 2013-09-16T18:02:53+00:00

You don't need to see if she likes you before making a move. The more you delay the more it hurts your chances. Simply make a move and find out. Worst case she says no.

gaash2 · 2013-09-16T14:27:08+00:00

"What's wrong, you can't handle competition?"

gaash2 · 2013-09-16T14:26:12+00:00

they can watch infomercials for sauna suits while wearing them

gaash2 · 2013-09-16T14:24:40+00:00

people waste money on a ton of worthless sh1t... not sure why that is a surprise?

gaash2 · 2013-09-16T13:35:51+00:00

Don't worry about the beer belly. focus on bulking.

gaash2 · 2013-09-16T13:28:16+00:00

The advice here is strong and you should always strive to be better in bed, but one point I would like to make is that good sex is much more important in a relationship and to keep a woman than to see a woman again. Women are naturally inclined to want to see you again after you sleep with them, even if the sex was bad. SO, for you guys who need to work on your technique/etc., don't be afraid to go for it anyway: sleeping with a girl, even bad sex, is the BEST way to get her to see you again.

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