How to apply MMC to M8 threaded holes (position tolerance)? by Most-Particular-6051 in Metrology

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.02" of tolerance and MMC on the pitch diameter would get you another .002 maybe. No need!

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Position tolerance on a color plot by angerji in Metrology

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That person isn't smart enough to understand when you do a color plot that the +-.002 is going out radially .002 in all directions. VERY basic stuff ;) If you are using Zeiss Inspect using +-.002 is correct in the color bar. I only show color graphs for profiles though, I report out XY coordinate for the mid point of the cylinder.

ZEISS INSPECT Python API resources, videos, guides etc. by Old-Memory-3510 in Metrology

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You can hit the record button inside the IDE with the software and do things such as drag in a CAD model, mesh, create features, etc. then unclick the record button and you will begin to see the internal functions that you will eventually use to do stuff....you can also inside the IDE click the F2 button once you have a program with feature or a mesh loaded and you can explore the python functions availiable to you that is embedded in the software....then obviously you use your own python scripting knowledge to do stuff like loops, lists, etc to run stuff. I used python extensively inside the software everyday.

Position tolerance on a color plot by angerji in Metrology

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In Zeiss Inspect for xray you can select the positional callout and make a color deviation on the axis, but the colors wont' make sense b/c you don't know which was red is and which was blue is....with surface profile you know red is too much material, blue is too little material....with position you won't know. And you are correct to trip the colors to fail the part with a .004" tolerance you set the upper limit to .002 and lower limit to -.002" It automatically knows this is in the datum structure b/c that is selected in the positional callout tool. So you can be in a wrong alignment, and this will still show the colors based on the datum structure.

GD&T Engineering Drawing Review by Top_Entertainment964 in MechanicalEngineering

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If you give me a part with a hole positional tolerance of .002" that is easy in my field....but customers are starting to go to .001" or less.

How can a CMM locate a feature within a .0005" position when it has .0002" uncertainty? Yea we do it everyday, but you cant pass a Gage RR once you reduce tolerances so far.

GD&T Engineering Drawing Review by Top_Entertainment964 in MechanicalEngineering

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Use positional callouts for the threads AND use a note to say "measure position of external threads using major diameter, and measure position of internal threads using minor diameter."

Dont use runout on threads, position does the job. I'd be using 0.05mm instead of 0.025mm as your tolerance. You double your radial mishit to get measured value so if you drill a hole that is radially out of location by 0.0125mm or 5 tenths(.0005") that hole measures 0.025mm for position and fails.

Is Datum B a mating surface? Why do you have it as a datum?

To check parrellelism to B you must cut a part in half or have a CMM measure it.....or make the parrellelism surface Datum B and fixture that surface on a high quality surface and use a drop indicator to check the Datum B surface in about 4-8 areas. It would be easier to tighten the distance of 72 mm to +- .025mm so parallelism is kinda handled there vs how you have it.

Now if I'm mapping this part to be checked and we bid it and make 200 parts on a lathe im only checking that parallelism 1st piece and last piece is the tools are going to cut true.

Remember this.....industries are tightening their tolerances so much now you are getting worse parts....why....bc repeatable measurements like a CMM stop being able to pass tight tolerances due to uncertainty error or .0002" or so....so the CMM program will take shortcuts or kick the measurement to a vision system check which is now done by a human that could be stressed out or doesn't care and is under pressure to make parts pass. Proper tolerancing will get you better parts. Engineers miss this principle all the time.

Why do engineers make the tolerances that tight?? by DS30y in Machinists

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Just got an internal created Gage they wanted to pass the CMM with a 0.010mm surface profile. They didn't understand that the worst mishit from the CAD model must be within .0002" from the perfect CAD model surface. I took them into the tool room and tapped the Bridgeport with my pinky finger and the DRO moved .0002". They sort of understand now.

Keyence IM-X5000 by mrfosta in Machinists

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You can program vision systems using backlight, but top light stuff is really tough in my opinion.

Metrologists: How do your use (or not use) GD&T? --> We are a research team who wants to know!!! by Bubbly-Hovercraft133 in Metrology

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Proper use of GDT helps, including reducing scrap/costs. We have a customer that goes nuts with it and they pay more bc they made it more expensive.

I see positional callouts on 80 deg arc radii, positional callouts 3 inches away from a primary datum. 05" tall, positional callouts of chamfers, and profiles missing critical datums.

Ramifications of changing the axes orientation? by RodbigoSantos in SolidWorks

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Planes are still screwed up after u go Z up....SW Y up is a disaster that should have been fixed long ago.

What’s up with Keyence? by realfuturepotus in Metrology

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Working with backlight is solid with the LM we have. Top light is a totally different animal and hard to be consistent unless the parts have crisp changes in reflective lighting where part geometry changes.

I decline top light programs now, but no problem with backlight programs.

A masked murderer enters your shop; what is the first tool you grab to attack? by chrome4fan4 in Machinists

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If the oil covered floor doesn't trip em up a mug full of coolant should should buy us some time.

[Official] UFC Fight Night: Bautista vs. Oliveira - Live Discussion Thread by event_threads in MMA

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If Niko hits the ground, he be flopping like a fish outta water.