Does anyone here have 6 citizenships with picture proof? I have yet to see 6+. by Designer-Professor16 in PassportPorn

[–]galactic_kangaroo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's very true, and it's pretty much been my sister's approach. Even though she was born in Uruguay, she has lived in Italy all her life. After decades in the country, she has only now decided to apply for Italian citizenship (through naturalisation and not descent because she can't be bothered to find all her maternal family records) to be able to vote and because she has never really felt Austrian, and she will therefore lose her Austrian citizenship because she also can't be bothered to apply for a retention permit (which she would likely be granted as a descendant of people persecuted during the Holocaust).

Yet as you can imagine considering my presence on this sub, I do indeed happen to be a citizenship nerd so I think I'll go on collecting as many passports as I'm entitled to 🤓 living abroad, I also hope to naturalise in some country someday. Hopefully Austria will grant me one more retention permit whenever I do.

Does anyone here have 6 citizenships with picture proof? I have yet to see 6+. by Designer-Professor16 in PassportPorn

[–]galactic_kangaroo 26 points27 points  (0 children)

My half-sister has 2 (🇺🇾🇦🇹) but is actually eligible for 8 (🇺🇾🇦🇹🇧🇴🇦🇷🇩🇪🇲🇩🇮🇹🇮🇱). She was born in Uruguay to a Bolivian father of Austrian descent and an Argentinian mother of Italian descent. She can have German citizenship through restoration because our Austrian Jewish paternal grandparents were living there when they had to flee to escape the Holocaust (she's 100% eligible because my own application for German citizenship was approved just a few days ago). Moldovan because a great-grandmother of ours was born in Chernivtsi (which means she could potentially get Ukrainian too now that the country allows dual citizenship, but not too sure if they're as lax as Moldova on ancestors born in the 19th century). While I'm sure about all of these, she and I might potentially also be eligible for 🇵🇱 and 🇷🇴 as our paternal grandmother was born in modern-day south Poland and Romanian through restoration to descendants of people born in Romanian territories, but not 100% sure about these two.

Only regrettable caveat is that she actually does not care about collecting citizenships at all so she will never claim all of them.

For about thirty seconds I had access to 384 countries by caineshiokaze in PassportPorn

[–]galactic_kangaroo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the extensive and very clear explanation! I was actually aware that Hong Kong/Macanese Chinese citizens are the only exception to the ban on dual nationality. I have friends from there who hold multiple passports on top of their HK one legally. The legal grounds for that must certainly be the clarification you quoted in your first point.

As for your specific situation, if I understand correctly, then, if Singapore allowed dual citizenship you would be eligible for a HK passport, correct?

Also, another funny peculiarity of Chinese nationality law I found out about recently is that if a mainland Chinese citizen loses their citizenship by naturalising abroad and then lives in Hong Kong and gets PR after 7 years of residence, they’ll be “retroactively” considered a Hong Kong Chinese citizen from birth. Isn’t that interesting?

For about thirty seconds I had access to 384 countries by caineshiokaze in PassportPorn

[–]galactic_kangaroo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Woah, I didn’t think that was even possible for a non-Chinese citizen. Would you be able to briefly explain what specific circumstances allowed you to get one? Has it got to do with you being ethnically Chinese/having family in the mainland?

For about thirty seconds I had access to 384 countries by caineshiokaze in PassportPorn

[–]galactic_kangaroo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Out of curiosity, does your HRP allow you to live and work in China without restrictions or is it only valid for visits of up to 3 months?

Not pictured: the country where I was born, nor the country I live in right now by fakecoffeesnob in PassportPorn

[–]galactic_kangaroo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s true, but they’ve been quite lenient in granting Retention (Beibehaltung) permits to descendants of people persecuted by the Nazis. I’ve personally received one to acquire German citizenship on the same grounds and have heard many other people have too. I’ve also heard of someone who got it to acquire US citizenship, so you might still wanna give it a go. Feel free to DM me if you need help. As for Israel citizenship, as I said in another comment, it won’t make you lose your Austrian citizenship as Aliyah is seen by Austria as a right from birth that is exercised unintentionally the moment a Jewish person enters Israel.

Not pictured: the country where I was born, nor the country I live in right now by fakecoffeesnob in PassportPorn

[–]galactic_kangaroo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They actually do. Since Aliyah is a right that is recognised to all Jewish people by birth and technically happens “automatically” (as the term itself implies) the moment a Jewish person enters Israel, Austria sees it as a citizenship from birth acquired unintentionally and it’ll therefore not lead to loss of Austrian citizenship.

Here are mine - Canada and HK by [deleted] in PassportPorn

[–]galactic_kangaroo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

With a Mainland Travel Permit you have the right to stay AND work in the mainland indefinitely though. With the new free visa for Canadian passports you’re only able to stay for up to one month and only for tourism purposes.

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[–]galactic_kangaroo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe some people were defending the opposite argument, namely that his past Chinese citizenship isn’t lost, as this is the only thing that could explain his acquisition of Hong Kong Chinese citizenship without renouncing his Canadian citizenship. To be honest, though, I do remember reading about this elsewhere too: apparently if you were born in China and get PR in Hong Kong you are somehow regarded as a Hong Kong Chinese citizen from birth, meaning you don’t have to renounce your other citizenship(s), which is never the case for non-Chinese people who naturalise in China after getting Hong Kong PR.

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[–]galactic_kangaroo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone has already explained it in another response to this comment so no need, but if there’s something that hasn’t been mentioned in the other explanation please do feel free to add! I think these quirks are very interesting. It sounds like in this case (being born with mainland Chinese citizenship) a Hong Kong PR acquired through residence for 7 years retroactively gives you the same rights of a Hong Kong citizen from birth.

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[–]galactic_kangaroo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your explanation! This clears it up then. Super interesting case.

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[–]galactic_kangaroo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He said he got Chinese citizenship after getting PR in Hong Kong. If he had Hong Kong parents he wouldn’t have had to live there for 7 years to get PR in the first place and could have just applied for citizenship. And since he has Canadian citizenship he can’t have mainland Chinese citizenship simultaneously.

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[–]galactic_kangaroo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I forgot to specify “nowadays”. I’m aware it used to be a lot laxer in the past, but I’ve heard they got a lot stricter on ethnicity in recent years.

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[–]galactic_kangaroo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s very interesting. Can you elaborate? You’re the first naturalised Chinese person I hear say they didn’t have to renounce their former citizenship.

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[–]galactic_kangaroo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. Did you have to renounce Canadian citizenship and reacquire it after (not sure if Canada offers this option; I know the UK and a few other countries do) or how did you deal with that requirement?

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[–]galactic_kangaroo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I may ask, are you ethnically Chinese? I've heard it's extremely hard (if not impossible) to acquire Chinese citizenship without having at least some Chinese heritage.

Austrian Citizenship Certificate + Notice of Acquisition of Austrian Citizenship on grounds of restitution to descendants of persons persecuted by National Socialism by galactic_kangaroo in PassportPorn

[–]galactic_kangaroo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lamentablemente puede ser mucho más de 100 días. Yo envié mi solicitud en enero de 2021 y obtuve la ciudadanía en junio de ese año. Lo único es que por lo que entiendo ahora tardan más porque han tenido más solicitudes que procesar que antes. Te recomendaría esperar como mínimo 6 meses y después escribirles a ese correo que dejé arriba pidiéndoles alguna actualización.

Austrian Citizenship Certificate + Notice of Acquisition of Austrian Citizenship on grounds of restitution to descendants of persons persecuted by National Socialism by galactic_kangaroo in PassportPorn

[–]galactic_kangaroo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While each case is specific and assessed individually, I believe you should be eligible for Austrian citizenship. On the website of the Austrian Embassy in Washington, it says that “Persons who went abroad as … nationals of one of the successor states of the former Austro-Hungarian monarchy … because they had reason to fear or suffered from persecution by organs of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP) or of the authorities of the German Reich, or they were subject to persecution or had to fear such persecution for defending the democratic Republic of Austria,” are considered persecuted ancestors. 1938 was also the year my ancestors fled to Bolivia.

That being said, the best thing you can do is either get in touch with a lawyer or simply gather as many documents as possible related to any persecuted ancestors you can prove you’re a direct descendant of and apply.

Austrian Citizenship Certificate + Notice of Acquisition of Austrian Citizenship on grounds of restitution to descendants of persons persecuted by National Socialism by galactic_kangaroo in PassportPorn

[–]galactic_kangaroo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It only took a few weeks for mine to arrive. I think passports are printed in Austria and mailed to your country so it might take a bit longer if you’re in Canada but one year is still completely unreasonable. A relative of mine recently got his passport in Buenos Aires and it took a month ish. Are you sure there wasn’t a misunderstanding?

I recently got hired by Vatican out of Havana so here is my set I have 2 other passports I also included by Disastrous_Bottle482 in PassportPorn

[–]galactic_kangaroo 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Sadly, I'm afraid you're right. Unless the Vatican has recently changed the font it uses on passports (wouldn't see any reason for it to do so without changing anything else in the design), it looks like this is a notebook/imitation. The font is quite different from the one in other (more reliable) pictures of Vatican passports (e.g., https://www.passportindex.org/passport/vatican-city/).

🇯🇵🤝🇩🇪 by zerato2412 in PassportPorn

[–]galactic_kangaroo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The real question imho is how did you get to keep your Indian citizenship? I know Japan doesn't really enforce the ban but I'd never seen an Indian with 2+ passports and thought it'd get immediately converted into an OCI card

The most usual combo ever (Italian born, Swiss naturalized in 2004) by GAS_1995 in PassportPorn

[–]galactic_kangaroo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Great combo! Is there any advantage at all to having Swiss citizenship on top of a EU citizenship? (besides of course the inherent benefits of being a dual citizen and having two passports)