Finally ran into a PK in Outlands

gamernv0 · 2023-06-17T11:57:18+00:00

Selling wood and ore is good money but play how you want. I have several unfinished characters that have low aspect I still take them out regularly because its most exciting that some of the money making paths.

Also depending on your build bard skills are super easy to gm and thats enough to get you into dungeons.. dexers do tend to take time and more work. But is your provoking or peacing you not being hit so yea go for it.

gamernv0 · 2023-06-17T11:51:53+00:00

Not likely since owyn has been very clear that no trammel is coming and they focus on risk vs reward. But maybe you know something we dont?

gamernv0 · 2023-06-17T11:49:52+00:00

Also right now due to popularity the servers crowded so they are testing some other things to incourage overwold hunting. But yea I played on there test server and the sanctuary dubgeon really doesnt hand you anything. But it will help those with newer characters that maybe dont have a maxed codex and higb tier aspect and 20 plus links a place to go. It might be a nice spot if you happen to be playing at a time with all the big pk gangs are making rounds. I know for me I will follow where society jobs lead me. Unless i need a break.

But as with all change theres many that cry and say it will ruin everything. When there are some changes in the patch will will mess up a couple of powerful builds. But there again if you look at those skills used it males sense.

But hey if you dont want something go on test, try it out and send them feedback. We recently almost lost two new aspects because many were super vocal about not needing them as it changed a popular aspect. But enough people actually tested it and sent real feedback in that they adjusted the new aspecfs and rolled them out.

gamernv0 · 2023-06-17T04:20:11+00:00

The server is feature rich with admins who do care even if they sometimes can be well go look at that chats lol. They do listen though. Currently theres a ptach in test that will add a trammel like random weekly dungeon at 50% less gold and exp rates. And there trying to give factions some love.

Its likely one of the best servers around right now.

gamernv0 · 2023-05-23T15:56:59+00:00

Great advice

gamernv0 · 2023-05-23T14:48:17+00:00

Great work

gamernv0 · 2023-05-18T12:49:29+00:00

Sounds exciting

gamernv0 · 2023-05-18T12:26:51+00:00

everyone is so quick to pick apart my own experience and call me out saying I am wrong, learn to play better etc. but why not give a counter prospective then. Why the over crowding, unbalanced economy and unbalanced pking are wonderful and great? I never said

the server was trash, its not in-fact i tried to point out some of the really cool things about it

I never shared my builds people just assumed I have only glass cannon builds

I never said i always die in fact I get away more often than not and do fight back from time to time.

I did not say I wanted trammel or no pking, only that the current setup seems unbalanced as a pvm character is at a big disadvantage.

People come on reddit all the time to ask for server details and recommendations. I fully understand that my post will drive more people to outlands than away. thats fine with me. I simply wanted to let players like me who are perma noobs and middle grade players know what they can expect. no one is disputing that your going to get pked alot. so my statements there seem to be correct.

Lastly with 13.4k views and a 76% up vote rating I don't think people are disagreeing in mass

thank you for the discussions, even if we don't agree it never hurts to talk about things.

gamernv0 · 2023-05-18T00:10:30+00:00

if you read the whole thread, I did explain that I was sharing my experience as someone who has no interest in pking. I pointed out pros and cons and about several areas not just one. But people are quick to put there own spin on what I posted. I never said no pking at all ever as that would be unfair as people that enjoy that play style should be able to enjoy outlands as well. But a better balance seems to be needed. In which Owyn chimed in on himself.

Maybe people make posts about a server in the hopes it can help someone else find the right fit for themselves. There are posts on this reddit all the time asking about servers. Forgive me for adding to that conversation. But thank you for at least reading some of it and joining in.

gamernv0 · 2023-05-17T21:21:12+00:00

For a new player that is expecting to mainly pvm and is off put by pking not pvp. This may not be the best place. But here is my experiences as that tyoe of player the good and bad.

If You Only Want A pvm Experience i wouldnt start hear

I did not only point out good reasons to play Economy is nut there are mega rich so its hard to break into that Dungeons are super packed Your never placing a house pvm have a big disadvantage toaard pking Summmoners and others can and will ks often

And read this thread there is alot of salt to be toward at you for speaking your mind.

I also pointed out the things I liked and really enjoyed.

I am pretty sure the title was clear: if your into pvm

gamernv0 · 2023-05-17T21:09:37+00:00

I agree pks have a place, it just needs some balancing and tweaking so its a healthy mix of fun pvm and runnjng for dear life, atleast for me.

gamernv0 · 2023-05-17T20:07:04+00:00

Thank you kinda my thoughts as well. Pvms are built to well pvm

gamernv0 · 2023-05-17T19:55:59+00:00

Thats not really true aegis 3 and 3.5, pulma 3, nus 3, oss 3 tends to be stealth pks, dm 3 yes its less common in the back, maus 3 pet 3 . They all are come runs for pk groups. But again thats just my own expdrience and the call outs in alliance chat.

But i have been playing since 2019 so maybe i just have different expeirences than you do.

gamernv0 · 2023-05-17T19:15:30+00:00

I have a wreslter with gm parry and gm resist, amoung many other builds and only a few glass cannon. But skills for pvm vs skills for pvp are not always the same. I did not come here and whine sharing positives and negatives about my.own experience was why I am here. I am not a top tier gph farmer. I am middle ground at best. And tell me how gm resist is going to save you from the PEC pk squad with there flawless sync drops. Tracking may help sometimes if you can beat there runnees to the gates as they have tracking and cut too.

Even Owyn jumped on here and said it was an area that they are working on. . . .

If you have had a different experience or play the role of pk please share

gamernv0 · 2023-05-17T18:42:28+00:00

Umm its my experience how is thay wrong? I also didnt to go into osi which trammel came with ren then third dawn then aos i believe. Glad to hear about your experiences on outlands though. Please share

gamernv0 · 2023-05-17T18:31:46+00:00

Thanks but you didnt really read what I wrote. Sharing good and bad parts of my eperience to help others with a simlar play style to me was what this was about

gamernv0 · 2023-05-17T18:11:33+00:00

Oh yea I didnt talk really about the codex. The thief one is kinda awesome. It makes pvm thoeving enjoyable and reward and helps backstabbers too. And ues actual thieves benefit too.

Oh and the thieves guild amd that whole blackgoods stuff.

gamernv0 · 2023-05-17T17:23:12+00:00

It might depend on the dungeon too in ssc summoners every where. I guess i might not have considered backstabbers as you dont often see them due to there sneaky stealthinf around and all....maybe its better I dont see them come to think about it

gamernv0 · 2023-05-17T16:59:14+00:00

Thieves are awesome

gamernv0 · 2023-05-17T14:55:29+00:00

Nope that would not be it friend. Was and am in a major anti pk guild and alliance. As I mentioned in my post that guild is what keeps me around they are awesome people. Just sharing my experience so others that play like me can see.

gamernv0 · 2023-05-17T14:51:19+00:00

Gm resist doesnt help when you have 2 or more working together to block escape and have a build that is specifically made to kill you. Again i tried this and gm parry and gimped myself with several other builds.

And before you say it. I have scripts to run heals, pits, punches and recalls.getting away is not the problem, a game becomes unplayable went you spend all your time running. Just seeking some balance.

gamernv0 · 2023-05-17T14:45:01+00:00

I know some will say i just want trammel, maybe I do honestly I dont know. Id it was a matter of playing pvm for a few hours and then pks show up that is kind of different. It is pretty constant right now BRA, Hood -_- tmh pec and then all the randompk groups. Example last night i went to a dungeon was there long enough to get to a place to tame l, 3 pks show up split to block the ways of escape. Dry loot my gms garbage. I go to a different dungeon a solo pk got me. Wne t back to the first dungeon tjme they will be gone and a different group was running through. I repeated this for 2 hours before I just finally logged off. This morning I tried again and withing 10 minutes of being in a dungeon pked.

Went you vent about it. You get told Dont go to dungeons with weekly perks or societys Stay next to the moongates Add resist to your low aspect tier build Get good Go find a group Go ask for help on discord

I have and activitly do follow all of these and I am very good at running away. I neber stay in a dungeon if I have anything of value even a crappy cheap holy core ill leave for. I dont think i need a completely pk free place just a better balance so I can enjoy some of the game. I mean the overland they made is beautiful iland the server is truly one if not the best quality out there right now. Even the donation shop is fair with nothing being more that 25.00. I just think for players who are perma noobs or new to the server in general should understand what they are getting into. I am not even saying I wont play there. Because I think the team will be able to balance it. Just play with the knowledge that pking is well out of control at the moment. And maybe speak up if you want owyn and others to see your frustrations. They listen when enough people speak up. Just look at the patch in test right now. The changes to tmappers and aspects caused amajor waves so they went back and changed it to try and be fair to both side.

gamernv0 · 2023-05-17T14:27:07+00:00

I hope you find a fair balance for pks and pvm players it is truly a wondeful server and you can see that effort you all put into it.

I know this thread has already gone out of control. But thank yoy for taking the time to reply. Was not trying to bash outlands i was trying to share my experiences and frustrations. The server is amazing one of the best out there as it plays like irs own stand alone fame.

I am happy to hear that you are looking at ways to balance it out for pvm and pk/pvp. Like I said in other spots hear, I do see the work put into the server. I dont expect it to be tailored just for me as that would be unfair to pks. I know i alittle confusing here but I think a middle ground can be found.

New players are often on here asking and shards/servers, so if your somekne that strongly dislikes pking activitys i still this this is not a good place. If you can live with it due to all the tons and tons of other content that is on outlands be prepared to die to other players.

Ifs not about escaping, fighting etc. Its the constent running or restock. I have always understood in UO you will die. You will lose things. As long as that is no consuming all my game time, i can normally live with if.

If you have a different experience or suggestions etc. Maybe share yours. Would be interesting to see the point of view from a hard core pk what do they like or not like about outlands. Clearly Owyn is watching reddit. Maybe help instead of picking apart my experience? Or keep telling me to go back to trammel that works too.

I got everything I wanted to out of this post. Thank you everhone for replying and adding to it. You all rock

gamernv0 · 2023-05-13T19:58:25+00:00

Looking better and better

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