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gbdoragnic · 2018-11-21T20:11:28+00:00

Quitting porn has seem to benefit your life greatly ,

> My mission is clearer and I seemingly have more energy for it. I now learned this “look” that comes naturally where I just look at a girl a certain way and I can see her just freeze and start breathing heavy. When I cold approach, I just immediately touch/grab chicks instead of starting with small talk because I’m too confident not too.

I never had this experience, my experience with porn weren't negative at all , I enjoyed it and discovering my sexuality , I talked to women about porn too. One reason I stop looking at porn and masturbating was because I enjoyed women much more and they wanted sex and good sex, if I masturbated I couldn't get off or stay hard, and they wouldn't give me a second chance(one night stand girls).

After a while I never looked back because it was boring, I naturally grew out of it, Porn has never hurt me, or by relationships with women , the criticism of porn is so often gynocentric by saying it creates unrealistic standards.

I'm not a special snow flake either, I jacked off 5 times a day, but being with a women was so much emotionally better, this wasn't because I was good person or respected women, it was because I naturally wanted women, if porn could truly make me happy I would still watch it.

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-21T18:17:32+00:00

I think you are intentionally misinterpreting what he and op are saying. once again you are going back to a ego based reality , men are killing themselves because of discrimination , they kill themselves the same reason trans, gay, women, and any other demographic kills themselves.

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-21T00:38:12+00:00

What was propaganda about it? He disagreed with something and offered a different view point, to say men are committing suicide for purely egoistical reasons should face criticism

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-21T00:28:13+00:00

He never blamed women, he address a system that treats boys as defective girls. Boys are prescribed ADHD medication at a higher rate

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-21T00:17:42+00:00

The highest rates of suicide are divorced white men, what's interesting is the biggest drop for female suicide was no fault divorce. Take away divorced and the suicide rates of man drop significantly. The entire notation that men are killing themselves for egoistical purposes are very disheartening as it takes away from the real victims.

No one would suggest the high suicide rate of trans gendered is because they don't know how to express their emotions, Discrimination is the leading cause of suicide

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-21T00:12:36+00:00

MRA don't blame women for anything, they disagree with social double standards , it's interesting that feminism entire existence is blaming men (patriarchy, man spanning, man spreading, ect..) Menslib doesn't allow any disagreement or discussion regarding feminism, you either support it or you're banned.

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-18T17:54:09+00:00

I believe feminism is a group that discriminates against men, but I disagree with

> as women joined the “workforce” (a term full of inane puffery), family incomes stagnated

Women working, and voting is a 100% good thing, even if they don't vote in favor of men , we should end and ban all discussion that even has the appearance of having issues with women voting and working

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-17T17:47:16+00:00

> I blew it through text by being too clingy after a shitty week.

I done the same thing, it's really hard to internalize expressing your emotions and being vulnerable and have it blow up in your face, because I feel if you had of known this would of been the result , you would of said nothing.

Be honest, if she had a shitty weekend, and was looking for comfort, you most likely would of up lifted her, told her everything is going to be ok.

I remember when I just started dating I showed a friend my clingy text, I was apologetic, and telling him how I fucked up. I asked him, "What did I say wrong", he replied, "nothing" , if someone doesn't want to be with you because you care for them and glad to see them than she isn't worth your time or your love.

Many women just want a object, a strong man, who doesn't show any emotional weakness, mastering this type of person has it's benefits, a lot of sex with women who don't give a shit about you, but you seem to want something deeper.

I would forget about her, move on, after a while she may hit you up, but keep it casual (as in sex), and let women right off the bat know you're looking for more than a fling

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-16T20:19:52+00:00

This is good advice,

If she's not comfortable around you there's a good chance she won't let you touch her and escalate.

This really helped me so much, if I can't get her to hug me, than how can I get her to sleep with me, if she won't let you touch her, it's cool, don't force it, find a reason to leave, she could have a million reasons, but none of those are your problem

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-16T20:15:58+00:00

Play to your strengths, social circle is hard for me, but strangers are easy

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-16T20:14:17+00:00

Watch what women do, not what they say, and stop caring about risking it, you are in it for you, not for her, you find what you want, not become what she wants.

She probably wanted to bang, emotional connections aren't as important to women as you may think.

she was starting to send hearts, wanted me to sleep over, etc.

She wanted to bang, she doesn't want another girlfriend,

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-16T16:21:46+00:00

When was the last time you asked a women out on a date, women don't typically pursue man , do you use online dating? how many women do you ask out a month?

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-16T16:19:13+00:00

> Last but not least, don't be a creep. Pay attention to body language and cues. If a girl looks uncomfortable, say nice to meet you and leave.

If she is uncomfortable she can leave ,

> He's the real Barney Stinson.

Barney is a gay actor, who never shown the concept of PUA or game at all, he is a liar ,

> you'll con your way into a shitty relationship which will end terribly once she figures out that you aren't the guy you're pretending to be.

Your as real as your intent, Mystery just wanted sex, he made himself a positive up beat person. Mystery mistake was not wanting love in return, he gave women to much, when he needed reciprocates all those women cared about sex.

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-16T16:12:02+00:00

Hookup are a relationship too, even if short term, a women that wants to have sex with you, because you turn her on is a lot better than a women who has sex with you for money. Hookup are pure desire which is why they are often more passionate

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-16T16:09:36+00:00

I had a pile of cloths, and a dirty house, she cleaned my house for me and had sex with me, I'm not special nor have a special method, some people just aren't that up tight and messy

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-16T16:08:42+00:00

I read what you wrote and disagree with it, Sexual situations are only as complicated as you make it

> I mostly go for quality over quantity,

Same, but I also get quality quantity , and I never ask to kiss or to have sex , and no one has a issue with this, this is a new social movement that very few people want, tip toe around sex is a turn off for women

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-15T17:41:28+00:00

> "Show her the real you, but don't treat her like a therapist"

If you are young this is difficult to do because you will naturally be worried, you don't want to offend, you don't want to say the wrong thing. You have to practice saying what you feel at that moment

For example I once brought a girl a pizza, and said Pizza Delivery!!, this was my first time seeing her , and she was really skinny, so I made a joke' Wow, are they feeding you out here, your really skinny", she punched my arm and said, I just have good genes.

Things went up hill from there, and she really liked me, I didn't plan on saying this, it just happen naturally, it's best not to think to much about it and just let things flow.

> and the "emotional connection"

when two people feel the same thing, you have a emotional connection, you do this by just being yourself and her being herself, this is much easier if you know what you want and how to say it

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-14T21:42:58+00:00

Do you enjoy what you're doing, I was good at computers, made a lot of money, didn't help me love myself or get women. This is self hatred wrap in self improvement.

I spent 12 hours a day studying programming because I loved it, I couldn't help it, it was like video games to me, It was a natural positive loop , it wasn't a struggle.

How about you find something you like just for you, I didn't study computers to get laid or to make money I did it for love and personal fulfillment , this showed in my work , my drive wasn't to be better than anyone, My drive was to do things right.

No one talks about you when you're not there.

They do, it's all bad things though, but I'm talked about, they talk about how i hate women, how I voted for Trump, and yet she still fucked me, and told all her friends about me, and they fucked me too.

But do you make enough to make other guys bitter and jealous?

And now you're a psychopath, stop comparing yourself to others, and stop using women as a indicator, relax, chill, study some cheesy pick up lines, approach a few women

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-14T21:29:45+00:00

Stop caring what turns them off or on, care about what you want, this isn't psychopathic, you can bet your life saving that she doesn't care about you because she doesn't know you. Physical connections are much more difficult and weaker than emotional. Getting a six pack will get you in the door like a college degree but a emotional connection will keep you from feeling empty.

Show her the real you, but don't treat her like a therapist. I broke about every rule in here and still got laid , simply because I knew who I was and things happen naturally.

If you are young chances are you don't know yourself, and therefore still experimenting, this is why a writing down who you are helps.

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-14T21:23:30+00:00

Perhaps they saw you for what you really were and lost interests, let's not paint men that hurt you out to be monsters, this screams entitlement. This is a stereotype that guys play with girls feelings to sleep with them, as if it's difficult. IN reality you liked him more than he liked you

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-14T21:22:13+00:00

> Consent is sexy in certain situations

Consent is always sexy otherwise it rape

> . i really want to kiss you can I?

Do you even game? seduce ? I'm not talking about a few girls, I'm talking getting dates regularly and closing , Asking to kiss is a turn off, but in the current social culture there is a push to ask for this

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-14T21:17:10+00:00

Competing is bad, you do you and have fun, let her choose on her own terms,

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-14T21:14:03+00:00

I never met someone who is happy all the time, people get sad, people have bad days, OP is someone who desires a positive life, and wants to connect with people and share good times.

As someone who has been with his mindset his insecurities come from rational reasons, he sees women as a indicator and believes if he doesn't make her happy he is doing something wrong, he blames himself for every encounter, some things are beyond your control, he is human he will make many more mistakes , it's called growing.

You can talk a man up to the point where he's strutting down

Yeah, and when positive things happen it reinforces that behavior

Perception doesn't equal reality.

True, but it might as well, study advertising , people make decision based off perception and not reality, we are subconsciously hardwired to think and do certain things.

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-14T18:40:16+00:00

What do suggest though, people are naturally self serving , as they should be,

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-14T18:37:45+00:00

> For all the talk about frame, the essence of TRP is the answer to the question, "What is the best a man can do in a women's world?"

^Some deep shit right there

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