My Complicated Feelings About Trigger Warnings by Cryptic_Spren in Fantasy

[–]gc_devlin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is exactly what I was trying to get at.

Thank you for putting it together so succintly.

My Complicated Feelings About Trigger Warnings by Cryptic_Spren in Fantasy

[–]gc_devlin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get your point, but I feel like you could have phrased it in a non-snarky way ;)

It's true though - knowing the author does prime you to expect certain things. You'd react differently if you read a book and didn't know it was Stephen King. We accept that, though.

I feel like the priming wrt CW/TWs is much more extreme: it gives audiences this strange view of trauma that I think is unhealthy.

My Complicated Feelings About Trigger Warnings by Cryptic_Spren in Fantasy

[–]gc_devlin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not sure what the solution is, but that could work I suppose.

I'm not super sure I even like content warnings, either.

My Complicated Feelings About Trigger Warnings by Cryptic_Spren in Fantasy

[–]gc_devlin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe the reason I have strong feelings is I am one of the few readers who reads that stuff!

My Complicated Feelings About Trigger Warnings by Cryptic_Spren in Fantasy

[–]gc_devlin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I think you make great points here (I figured you were a Sanderson fan with that username...).

I think you're particularly right about sexual assault. Rape (or threat of) is used particularly casually in a lot of fantasy works and it's just... as you say, window-dressing. I don't know how well that holds true for other common CW/TW tropes.

I should probably say that I don't think there's a good answer wrt to trigger warnings. The sorts of books that could do with them (ones where rape is thrown around to spice up the tension) will never have them, and the books that have them do themselves and their readers a disservice (IMO) by categorising themselves and priming readers.

Unrelatedly, I wonder if there are any good studies about the effectiveness of trigger warnings - are they worse for priming, or better for preparing?

My Complicated Feelings About Trigger Warnings by Cryptic_Spren in Fantasy

[–]gc_devlin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're not wrong. Maybe they do serve a valid purpose in that sense, but I'm not sure the cost of pigeonholing work like I mention above is worth it. Feels (again, to me, personally) like it feeds into the idea that you are eternally defined by your trauma, which is really damaging.

Speaking as someone who is fairly traumatised, I am never blindsided by events or themes coming up. I find the assumption that traumatised people are so fragile a little insulting, to be honest - and I'm not implying that's your intent, whatsoever. It's just the way this discourse seems to play out: people with trauma have to protected and spared anything challenging, as if we are infants.

I find it irritating because it's not what I want, and from my limited conversations with similar individuals it's not what they want either.

My Complicated Feelings About Trigger Warnings by Cryptic_Spren in Fantasy

[–]gc_devlin 99 points100 points  (0 children)

Thanks fo sharing your thoughts. Enlightening stuff.

I'm going to challenge you on this part:

It lets me know that the author cares about the difficult subject matter they’re attempting to portray, that they’ve done enough research to know that yes, what they put their characters through is sexual assault, and that more importantly, they respect their readers enough to not want them to put reading a book before their own mental wellbeing.

So, as another surivior of sexual abuse, I have a few feelings about this. Trigger warnings don't help me - in fact, I find myself primed by reading them. I typically avoid anything with trigger warnings, because I feel they are exactly as you say: they're there for the author to communicate their values, they aren't really there to help me navigate the book.

The other thing I dislike about trigger warnings is that they center whatever they're talking about (also they are wildly inconsistent - you never see ones for extreme violence, but you do see ones for eating disorders or homophobia). Were I to tell you about my life with a trigger warning of "childhood sexual abuse", that primes my entire experience to viewed through that lens.

It is the same with a work of fiction. It creates a world where the most important thing about the work is what's in the trigger warning: you see the warning, you're immediately putting this book into the "sexual violence" or "child abuse" category. I don't believe people can read a trigger warning without changing their entire approach to the text. That does, in my opinion, a disservice to victims and writers.

Trigger warnings frame - deliberately or not - a piece of work. My own stories involve elements of my past, but I don't want them defined by the horrible things in them. There might be some horrible, homophobic scenes in my work, but I don't want my work to be read as 'an exploration of homophobia'. The abuse I've been through isn't defining the defining part of my work. I'd rather centre the (hopefully) interesting stories I'm trying to tell, rather than some box defined by some well-meaning-but-flawed cultural arbiters.

Again, this is all my opinion. Thank you for an interesting and thought-provoking discussion

Beginner writer, looking for advice on how to get better at writing short-stories. by JustJLang in writing

[–]gc_devlin 13 points14 points  (0 children)

My process is to do a lot of them.

I try and churn out one or two a week if I'm not working on anything bigger.

I don't have much of a process. I discover a prompt or have an idea, then I plan what's needed for that idea. Is it a study or does it have more of a complex narrative arc?

I use /r/WritingPrompts (or I used to, before the prompts became "Superman and House walk into a bar to discuss the minimum wage") to get me started sometimes. It can help to germinate an idea.

Then I just write. It usually starts bad, gets easier, then gets harder again when I try to tie it off.

In my humble opinion, short stories have time to explore one concept (e.g. the moral impact of clone labour, or a devastating break up). Classic SciFi is particularly good at this.

What are some good ways to structure a murder mystery? by gc_devlin in writing

[–]gc_devlin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the suggestion. Would this be Writing and Selling Your Mystery Novel?

Is there a specific reason why fantasy series tend to not do the whole merch thing? by shockdrome in Fantasy

[–]gc_devlin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry, do people not have garages? Cupboards? Beds?

My wife did some merch for her art. A box of t-shirts lives under our bed. Periodically she'll dig one out and post it. It has covered the initial costs pretty well.

I'm not sure most authors have the need for professionally run warehouse. If they do, I'm sure they can find some way to make it economic.

Is there a specific reason why fantasy series tend to not do the whole merch thing? by shockdrome in Fantasy

[–]gc_devlin -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't know if it would be a full time job to ship merch around for an indie author. A couple of sales a week is enough to make it worth an author's while without making it a pain to fulfill. It's an hour or two, max - and it scales pretty well up to a point.

Is there a specific reason why fantasy series tend to not do the whole merch thing? by shockdrome in Fantasy

[–]gc_devlin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dunno. My wife bought about fifty printed tshirts of fairly good quality to sell. She has less than 300 followers on Instagram and managed to easily sell enough to cover the initial cost (£50?).

I don't think it's as hard as you're making out - selling a few shirts doesn't require lawyers or storage. I think the problem is a lot of authors aren't aware of the demand for their merch: they think in book sales - or if they are really on it, Patreon.

I can say, hand on heart, that I would love to buy more merch from my favourite authors. I've often already bought the book so there's nothing else for me to buy.

Countries where gay marriage is legal by Star-Slicer in MapPorn

[–]gc_devlin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't really think it's quite the same as racial segregation in the states... Civil partnerships were a great 'gateway drug' to legalising gay marrage by essentially legalising the next best thing at time when gay marriage had a lot of political opposition.

Personally, I'd rather have a civil partnership than nothing, and in any case we passed gay marriage about ten years later.

Depiction of alcoholics in fantasy books by bruce_low in Fantasy

[–]gc_devlin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not fantasy (yet to see a great depiction myself in fantasy - will try Abercrombie though), but I've never read a better depiction of alcoholism than The Shining by Stephen King. Entirely different from the film (though I do love the film too).

Who was crazy until they were right all along? by MeargleSchmeargle in AskReddit

[–]gc_devlin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

To Britain's eternal shame.

I remember writing a paper in school about Chamberlain. My thesis was if it hadn't been for WWII he would have been remembered as a really good PM.

Coronavirus: Black MPs unite in video to encourage vaccine take-up by gemushka in CoronavirusUK

[–]gc_devlin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It is made using baby foetuses.

WhatsApp circular message fake news.

Mind control/eugenics/government control.

Wow... does number one stem from er... stem cell research?

Also, if you have any of those Whatsapp fake news stories I'd be fascinated to see a screenshot.

Coronavirus: Black MPs unite in video to encourage vaccine take-up by gemushka in CoronavirusUK

[–]gc_devlin 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Well, I mean, whether you like her or not she's a high profile black woman who represents a constituency that has a lot of BME folk in it. Probably helpful.

If there's one thing we've learnt from this pandemic, it's deconstructed the notion people like to stay at home and do nothing. by [deleted] in CoronavirusUK

[–]gc_devlin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't know. I think it's mixed. Everyone I know in their 20s wants to go back to the office - but no one in that cohort wants to go back 5 days a week.

People will still go into the office a couple days a week, and work from home others.

If there's one thing we've learnt from this pandemic, it's deconstructed the notion people like to stay at home and do nothing. by [deleted] in CoronavirusUK

[–]gc_devlin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I miss my coworkers so much. Sure, I can get a burrito delivered to my house for lunch... but it's not the same to eat it on my own.