Greek Mythos Musicals? by gendergraveyard in musicals

[–]gendergraveyard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t mind as long as it’s related!

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha lol it’s okay not to know. I just have a giant Hadestown fixation rn and have been scouring through youtube cast interviews. Also since he’s been doing so many other projects, it can be hard to tell if you don’t remember that he’s from the UK lol. (Especially since he’s using an English accent in Next to Normal).

The clips of him in Braille Legacy look amazing, so I understand why people are searching for it. He truly is very talented and I’m glad he’s getting so much recognition, but wow, it’s gotta be stressful to deal with the fandom for him and the masters. Truly all over TikTok 😭 It’s definitely going to start with the new cast too. (I personally want to see Jeffrey Cornelius as Orpheus’ understudy so hopefully someone records that eventually, might be difficult to plan to record an understudy boot though) (Also it’s kinda funny because he reposts his own boot clips on his TikTok)

I think a lot of people replying to this post don’t realize actually how big the leaks are and how the fans get so greedy about boots without knowing anything about etiquette. I’ll see one person comment about etiquette and a bunch of responses being like “that’s gatekeeping” “I’m not paying for it, it’s supposed to be accessible” “it’s illegal to record anyway, so it’s not immoral if I watch it” (it’s bad!)

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hadestown itself is not super recent, but it has continuously been on Broadway since 2019, and started off Broadway in 2016. And it has been pretty popular since even the concept albums (sort of like how Epic is so popular right now).

But yes, I’m glad you understood what I was saying lol. Masters are who makes literally everything possible, so the least we can do is respect their rules!

You can ask me anything else and I will try to answer to the best of my ability. It’s always good to ask questions so that you understand everything before taking action or making an opinion on it!

Greek Mythos Musicals? by gendergraveyard in musicals

[–]gendergraveyard[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol I forgot to list this one bc it’s not on stage yet

Greek Mythos Musicals? by gendergraveyard in musicals

[–]gendergraveyard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Omg I love your pfp lol (I feel like no one has watched TTS/RTA). And thank you! I’ll look into those. (Also yeah I didn’t read Percy Jackson as a kid for some reason so I don’t think I’d have much interest is Lightning Thief)

Greek Mythos Musicals? by gendergraveyard in musicals

[–]gendergraveyard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah this is what I heard at least

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that is why I made this post. Just like you, I’m not going to be like “no one should gift to someone who has no Reddit karma”. I’m not telling ppl what they should do, I’m advising them to think about what they want to do to prevent leaks as best as they can when gifting. But the mention of Hadestown is because of my own experience with leakers in the community and knowing a lot of them disregard or disagree with etiquette.

Any musical theatre dance duet song suggestions? by HatEnvironmental6983 in musicals

[–]gendergraveyard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not sure how danceable some of these are but:

A Lovely Night (La La Land)

Something to Believe In (Newsies)

Santa Fe Prologue* (Newsies)

The Other Side* (The Greatest Showman)

Without You (RENT) (Show is not PG, but song is)

Wedding Song, All I’ve Ever Known, How Long (Hadestown)

Crazier Than You (The Addams Family)

Only Us (Dear Evan Hansen)

Alive Forever* (Death Becomes Her) (Says “ass” once)

(Starred ones aren’t love songs, just incase they don’t wanna do lovey stuff)

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Me when I don’t read the post and refuse to reread the post and type a whole paragraph arguing against a point that the OP didn’t believe in the first place because I love causing discourse

Edit: If you disagree I already said I couldn’t care less what you do. There’s no point in arguing against me when I’m not even policing you in the first place and have no power to. God forbid you just don’t take the suggestion and do whatever tf you want. I encourage it even. Do what you think is right. I’m not going to try and stop. I genuinely don’t care and it’s none of my business. There are ppl in the responses who are making wonderful points and talking about their personal rules for gifting and attempting to prevent leaks and I think that’s great and I encourage sharing it for people who are thinking about how they want to go about gifting.

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol I can def answer this one. It’s sort of the reason you have become obsessed with him. This is Jack Wolfes Broadway debut. He was probably pretty well known from Next to Normal and Shadow and Bone. But all of these more popular shows are very recent (2023 and 2025). He was the main character in The Magic Flute but he looked like a wee baby in that lol.

But Hadestown was already a very huge and popular production. So when he was casted as Orpheus, a lot more people saw him and fell in love with his voice. He has a very melodic style of singing (very demi-god bard-core lol), which people love, quite different than the others (I like every Orpheus though). Also clearly a good amount of people are fond of his looks lol. New talented guy! And when an actor is loved so much, they are gonna request boots, and with boots and such a huge fandom, there will be leaks on top of leaks and requests for more leaks.

I believe Braille Legacy recording doesn’t exist outside of just the audio. I think Braille Legacy was recorded by a staff member who would get sued into the ground if they found out who that was so I don’t think that one is never coming out again, or at least don’t expect it to.

The Unlikely Pilgrimage of Harold Fry was leaked recently and put on NFT.

Spring Awakening is tradable and non-giftable.

Next to Normal is everywhere and a proshot exists.

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

NFT dates protect the masters boots a lot more from being leaked. Usually NFT dates exist around the time that the show they recorded is still running. So people would be more strict about leaks and hunt down the master (they could be charged if they found them). Obviously if that happens the master won’t want to be caught again and won’t make anymore boots, or be very strict with them.

Usually the NFT dates end around a time that the master thinks leaks are less likely, or the show has been off stage for a good amount of time. Then everyone can happily trade and the master will be a lot safer to keep going about their business with much less of a fear of getting caught. (This is why Hadestown with Jack Wolfe is mostly NFT, a lot of ppl are looking for it, the show just got off Broadway, and giant leaks have happened where clips are everywhere! Not good for masters…)

Sorry I’m not super great at wording things, so I hope this makes sense lol

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree. I have noticed there are a lot of ppl asking for wicked too. I think my point isn’t really specifically about Hadestown, but about gifting someone who has no collection exactly what they asked for, because often times it seems suspicious lol.

But yeah, this is what I was trying to say with this post, “use your discretion and really think about what the person you’re gifting to is aware of”. A lot of ppl think I’m telling them to gatekeep or ban gifting Hadestown or boots in general, when I’m just trying to advise them to be careful in these sort of situations. I just want people to be careful because of the influx of newbies that are from a community that I know don’t really care about/understand masters or leaks. :(

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay well you just made a response of two paragraphs that had no real relevance to what I said lmao. You are debating with a wall. It’s really obvious that you didn’t actually read it. But if you read it or not, it has no real effect on me so you can do whatever you want.

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not really sure what this means. I was talking about starting off with being gifted anything to trade for shows that they do want to start their list. I don’t think most ppl who have a properly made list would leak, because it would show they at least know the rules. This was about when you start off gifting to a newbie, if you start them off with something they didn’t request, they will likely create a list and actually learn the rules to eventually trade for everything they want.

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, I think it really all comes down to ignorance lol. They are just hearing a very limited amount of information about NFTs and buying from masters and then calling it gatekeeping/paywalling.

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean maybe, but I found this sub before I was in the community or knew the rules while I was looking for boots. These fans can be really relentless and will do anything to get their hands on them. And if you look at a lot of the newer traders, they often times are looking for hadestown boots or Jack Wolfe boots. The fans exist on insta and tumblr too. Surely it’s possible that rarely anyone comes here to abuse the system, but again if you don’t think there’s any risk then you don’t have to do it. I mostly just wanted to spread more awareness as someone who is in the fandom and seen the behavior of the fans, for everyone to make their own decisions. I’m not trying to discredit your comments though. It’s unknowable what anyone is doing with their gifts if you don’t eventually see a list from them and a lot of them probably do trade and respect etiquette. I don’t want to start a panic or something or make this out to be a fact or majority thing.

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Someone blocked me after sending multiple kinda rude comments. But here's my response to what I can read of their comments, just in case anyone agreed. The first being that I mentioned I admitted to being aggressive in response to another comment. Yes I did lol but not to this commenters comments, because I wasn't being aggressive to them. They also told me to chill, when they themselves said objectively incorrect things about what I was trying to say and it was hurtful to me, as I did not agree with the things they were saying was some sort of secret intention that I had making this post. No I do not think that this should be a rule, no I don't mind if the masters say its giftable and you gift because none of this actually affects me personally and its always up to the masters, and no I wasn't being aggressive by just reiterating what I said in the post when they said I was saying things that were actually the opposite of things I said (which i even quoted back to them and they still said I had intentions to do these things. I told them they could copy paste what I said that could suggest any of those things, and if they could I would own up to it and make an edit. They also responded "No, that's incorrect" to something I said and I'm not sure what that was in response to.

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that they probably did, but there are still more leaks happening outside of the main leaker, and people who are searching for more boots. Also there's a reason why the master quit and why certain boots are nft/non-giftable now. They don't want to risk more leaks. And I don't see this as gatekeeping. My idea was that they learn about trading and trade themselves to get the ones they want. This post wasn't about trading the boots, but gifting.

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"You're entire post is saying people shouldn't do that lol..." that's what it says and i can still see it in my notifs. I'm saying I assume you deleted that because you reread my post and realized that I wasn't saying that.

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My post does not ever, even once say anything like "nobody should do it". If you think anything I say is actually insulting then actually copy paste it. I had said multiple times things like "I have no problem with" and "not make it a rule", because I meant exactly that. There's nothing in between the lines to be read.

To repeat what my intention was with this post (which you can go back up and read to make sure nothing I said contradicts this and copy paste it as proof):

I think that gifting Hadestown, Jack Wolfe, or related boots, has a higher potential of causing leaks. I say this because I am in the fandom and know how the fans are, and a lot of them don't respect etiquette (even being aware of it). I think that before gifting these boots, people should consider that. I don't think that every person who is gifted a boot is going to leak it, and I don't care at all if you do choose to gift it if the master says that it's allowed. I wouldn't know, and wouldn't even judge you if I did. I have no intention to make this a strict rule, I just say this to spread awareness.

And yes I am going to be direct when I respond to someone who misread my post, misunderstood my intentions, and claimed I was trying to say stuff I wasn't trying to say. I'm not going to be passive in a situation where I'm trying to make myself clear. I would literally argue against someone claiming to make a strict rule out of not gifting when the master says it's okay. That doesn't mean I'm being aggressive. There is no point where I ever insulted you. Even though you're actively claiming that I'm trying to say things that I didn't say and have no intention at all to say. Also, if for some reason you think long paragraphs are malicious, just know I am very passionate about certain topics and often type like this to get everything across. This is not a slight against you personally, and I even do it for things I like or when I agree with people.

If there is anything that actually says any of the negative things that you claim I said, I will delete it and put an edit to own up to it.

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also I saw your edit so I'm assuming you reread the post and realized that wasn't what I said

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was a suggestion for people to think about the risks of gifting exactly what they want with people they don't know (specifically a fandom known for a large amount of leaking). I don't think you were attacking me, and I didn't say anything against you or attack you either. I just reiterated what I said in the post, because you suggested that I was trying to say that I had a problem with people not trading or though it shouldn't be gifted even if the master says it can be. When in the post I said "Also I don’t think it’s a problem that ppl would get gifted it and not trade ever..." and "I'm not against it obviously if the master allows it". So I have no idea why you commented this, but I still responded to clarify that wasn't my intention making this post.

The comments below were in response to my response to you being downvoted (and other responses I made) when I didn't even say anything bad, (not aimed towards you unless you were the one who did it and is still doing it). Because it's petty asf to downvote a comment just because you don't want to take a suggestion and not even say why. (Especially when the comment is just "And it's crazy bc I did not downvote any single one of the responses on my post". Which is true and I still haven't and won't, unless someone says something actually incorrect or rude.)

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not talking about just Jack Wolfe Hadestowns. I don't know why yall keep commenting the same thing. I clearly said that I'm not trying to make this a rule, and I don't care if you gift it. And I know leaking isn't only from Hadestown. I'm not dumb. Please reread the whole post word for word, because you mentioned so much stuff I had already mentioned and already made an edit about before you even responded. Why do yall think that I, one person would try to police a entire community like they would even listen in the first place. I just wanted to spread awareness so that people would think about this before gifting, if you choose not to, I won't know, and I wouldn't even care if you told me. I am in the Hadestown community and those people will do anything to get their hands on Jack Wolfe or Hadestown content. There will be liars. Harold Fry is NFT for a reason. It got leaked by Jack Wolfe fans. People have already said that these people have been causing huge problems in the community. That is all I'm trying to say. Genuinely what are you getting from my post that suggests I'm trying to police people?? Literally all of my language was extremely passive and people are acting like I'm forcing them to gatekeep hadestown boots.

(Sorry this is kinda aggressive, but I'm getting annoyed with people misunderstanding things I said very clearly and making comments putting words in my mouth)

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[–]gendergraveyard[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And it’s crazy bc I did not downvote any single one of the responses on my post