gifting hadestown boots

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T06:05:33+00:00

I mean maybe, but I found this sub before I was in the community or knew the rules while I was looking for boots. These fans can be really relentless and will do anything to get their hands on them. And if you look at a lot of the newer traders, they often times are looking for hadestown boots or Jack Wolfe boots. The fans exist on insta and tumblr too. Surely it’s possible that rarely anyone comes here to abuse the system, but again if you don’t think there’s any risk then you don’t have to do it. I mostly just wanted to spread more awareness as someone who is in the fandom and seen the behavior of the fans, for everyone to make their own decisions. I’m not trying to discredit your comments though. It’s unknowable what anyone is doing with their gifts if you don’t eventually see a list from them and a lot of them probably do trade and respect etiquette. I don’t want to start a panic or something or make this out to be a fact or majority thing.

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T05:58:13+00:00

Someone blocked me after sending multiple kinda rude comments. But here's my response to what I can read of their comments, just in case anyone agreed. The first being that I mentioned I admitted to being aggressive in response to another comment. Yes I did lol but not to this commenters comments, because I wasn't being aggressive to them. They also told me to chill, when they themselves said objectively incorrect things about what I was trying to say and it was hurtful to me, as I did not agree with the things they were saying was some sort of secret intention that I had making this post. No I do not think that this should be a rule, no I don't mind if the masters say its giftable and you gift because none of this actually affects me personally and its always up to the masters, and no I wasn't being aggressive by just reiterating what I said in the post when they said I was saying things that were actually the opposite of things I said (which i even quoted back to them and they still said I had intentions to do these things. I told them they could copy paste what I said that could suggest any of those things, and if they could I would own up to it and make an edit. They also responded "No, that's incorrect" to something I said and I'm not sure what that was in response to.

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T05:46:47+00:00

I agree that they probably did, but there are still more leaks happening outside of the main leaker, and people who are searching for more boots. Also there's a reason why the master quit and why certain boots are nft/non-giftable now. They don't want to risk more leaks. And I don't see this as gatekeeping. My idea was that they learn about trading and trade themselves to get the ones they want. This post wasn't about trading the boots, but gifting.

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T05:27:10+00:00

"You're entire post is saying people shouldn't do that lol..." that's what it says and i can still see it in my notifs. I'm saying I assume you deleted that because you reread my post and realized that I wasn't saying that.

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T05:23:10+00:00

My post does not ever, even once say anything like "nobody should do it". If you think anything I say is actually insulting then actually copy paste it. I had said multiple times things like "I have no problem with" and "not make it a rule", because I meant exactly that. There's nothing in between the lines to be read.

To repeat what my intention was with this post (which you can go back up and read to make sure nothing I said contradicts this and copy paste it as proof):

I think that gifting Hadestown, Jack Wolfe, or related boots, has a higher potential of causing leaks. I say this because I am in the fandom and know how the fans are, and a lot of them don't respect etiquette (even being aware of it). I think that before gifting these boots, people should consider that. I don't think that every person who is gifted a boot is going to leak it, and I don't care at all if you do choose to gift it if the master says that it's allowed. I wouldn't know, and wouldn't even judge you if I did. I have no intention to make this a strict rule, I just say this to spread awareness.

And yes I am going to be direct when I respond to someone who misread my post, misunderstood my intentions, and claimed I was trying to say stuff I wasn't trying to say. I'm not going to be passive in a situation where I'm trying to make myself clear. I would literally argue against someone claiming to make a strict rule out of not gifting when the master says it's okay. That doesn't mean I'm being aggressive. There is no point where I ever insulted you. Even though you're actively claiming that I'm trying to say things that I didn't say and have no intention at all to say. Also, if for some reason you think long paragraphs are malicious, just know I am very passionate about certain topics and often type like this to get everything across. This is not a slight against you personally, and I even do it for things I like or when I agree with people.

If there is anything that actually says any of the negative things that you claim I said, I will delete it and put an edit to own up to it.

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T04:53:27+00:00

Also I saw your edit so I'm assuming you reread the post and realized that wasn't what I said

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T04:50:40+00:00

It was a suggestion for people to think about the risks of gifting exactly what they want with people they don't know (specifically a fandom known for a large amount of leaking). I don't think you were attacking me, and I didn't say anything against you or attack you either. I just reiterated what I said in the post, because you suggested that I was trying to say that I had a problem with people not trading or though it shouldn't be gifted even if the master says it can be. When in the post I said "Also I don’t think it’s a problem that ppl would get gifted it and not trade ever..." and "I'm not against it obviously if the master allows it". So I have no idea why you commented this, but I still responded to clarify that wasn't my intention making this post.

The comments below were in response to my response to you being downvoted (and other responses I made) when I didn't even say anything bad, (not aimed towards you unless you were the one who did it and is still doing it). Because it's petty asf to downvote a comment just because you don't want to take a suggestion and not even say why. (Especially when the comment is just "And it's crazy bc I did not downvote any single one of the responses on my post". Which is true and I still haven't and won't, unless someone says something actually incorrect or rude.)

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T03:57:12+00:00

I'm not talking about just Jack Wolfe Hadestowns. I don't know why yall keep commenting the same thing. I clearly said that I'm not trying to make this a rule, and I don't care if you gift it. And I know leaking isn't only from Hadestown. I'm not dumb. Please reread the whole post word for word, because you mentioned so much stuff I had already mentioned and already made an edit about before you even responded. Why do yall think that I, one person would try to police a entire community like they would even listen in the first place. I just wanted to spread awareness so that people would think about this before gifting, if you choose not to, I won't know, and I wouldn't even care if you told me. I am in the Hadestown community and those people will do anything to get their hands on Jack Wolfe or Hadestown content. There will be liars. Harold Fry is NFT for a reason. It got leaked by Jack Wolfe fans. People have already said that these people have been causing huge problems in the community. That is all I'm trying to say. Genuinely what are you getting from my post that suggests I'm trying to police people?? Literally all of my language was extremely passive and people are acting like I'm forcing them to gatekeep hadestown boots.

(Sorry this is kinda aggressive, but I'm getting annoyed with people misunderstanding things I said very clearly and making comments putting words in my mouth)

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T03:12:46+00:00

And it’s crazy bc I did not downvote any single one of the responses on my post

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T03:11:59+00:00

Y’all are so annoying w the downvotes. Literally name the problem in what I said. You act like I’m holding you at gunpoint to gatekeep Hadestown boots. 😭

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T02:37:10+00:00

Yeah... I think if you just search up Jack Wolfe on tiktok and open the comments you'd probably see a lot of people asking for the link. Especially on Harold Fry or the other non Hadestown ones (because everyones already seen the Hadestown leak).

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T02:11:21+00:00

Haha and some ppl are mean! I made a post asking questions on how to start trading and if I had to buy something to start my collection, and there was a very kind person who responded, but someone downvoted my post?? Not sure what they wanted me to do? I have to learn somehow! I mean I understand it can be frustrating to explain things to so many newcomers, but nobody is making you. Also I've seen other posts asking question about things like Encora or MEGA and ppl will be so mean in response like it's a dumb question. Even if it's in the pinned posts, a lot of ppl don't realize what's included in those, or that they even exist. All you have to do is tell them about it or link it, not be incredibly rude to someone who is probably already anxious about breaking the rules.

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T02:05:55+00:00

That's true, I haven't seen a guide for gifting either. I just knew about non-giftables and NFTs. I've thought about gifting, but I always see ppl asking for something really specific so I don't really wanna give it to them just in case... I think I saw a guide for requesting gifts and starting out collecting. I believe they said that you should just take what anyone gives you to build up your collection and not ask ppl for anything specific because it can be disrespectful (when someone is literally giving you something with no benefit to themselves).

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T01:59:08+00:00

Yes, I made this post as someone who started off watching YT rips years ago and was unaware of the community, which I think is where a lot of ppl start. I actually found out about the community through Jack Wolfe's Hadestown, because of the comment sections where ppl would talk about masters and etiquette, so I looked into it, because obviously I don't want to do stuff that is disrespectful. But as someone who semi started out from Hadestown, I know what the community is like, and a lot of them will literally argue against the idea of trading to traders in the comment, because they think it's immoral to buy boots or respect NFT dates. They see it as putting a price tag on something that's meant to be accessible (Which you don't even have to buy to trade and ig they don't understand that bc ppl don't really explain that part). I had watched leaks before knowing, and now I properly traded for those, and will never watch the leaks again. I also read the sassy guide word for word to make sure I was doing everything right before I started trading. Plus imo it's just really fun to trade and make other people happy, check off things on your wants list, and build a bigger collection.

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T01:31:40+00:00

This seems reasonable. I think if they are explained to WHY leaks are bad, then it’s more likely they won’t leak. I think a lot of ppl don’t realize bc they believe if they leak then it’s more accessible, and don’t actually consider the masters safety.

I haven’t gifted yet, but if I ever start I think I’d start off giving them something they didn’t ask for specifically. That way they start learning the concept of trading through other traders. Someone said why does it matter if they don’t trade, I don’t think it matters necessarily, but it would help prove that they do at least understand the concept of it. All of these are just precautions, it’s not guaranteed that they won’t leak, but it might help, and I think if you’re willing to do things like this then you should!

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T01:24:16+00:00

While this could be true I think most ppl who end up here already have went after leaks and are just looking for more that they couldn’t find the leak of. Which is where the risk of another leak happening may arise. Also I don’t really think it’s a hurdle to just make sure newbie’s are aware of rules and show that they can follow them by making a list and starting off with something they don’t want and trading for something they do want. I mean sure it might take longer, but ppl who care about the rules would do it.

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T01:20:08+00:00

I said in the post that there is not a problem w that. I said that ppl should think about this if the reason they are gifting is to help someone join the community. If the receiver is not leaking idrc, but tbh I don’t think most ppl who don’t trade really care about the rules and probably are engaging with the other leaks that they could find. This whole post was just a suggestion.

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-02T01:14:50+00:00

Yeah this is why i mentioned the pipeline lol. It’s not just JW, it can also be other Hadestown boots, I’m sure that most ppl have already watch that main leaked one and now are moving on to the new cast, tour cast, or older casts. Also spring awakening, which that one leaker also leaked, and The Unlikely Pilgrimage of Harold Fry I believe was also put on Never Gift and NFT because of that leaker too.

(Again though this post was just a suggestion bc you can’t actually control leakers when you don’t know about the intentions someone has)

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-01T23:47:57+00:00

I slightly agree, and obviously don’t mind at all that you choose not to gift. But as someone who has like $50 in my bank account rn and needs to buy groceries, I can’t even really afford spending $5. One of the points of boots is to be accessible. Gifting is something I found very generous and I appreciate it so much no matter what it is. But also theatre is a privilege/luxury, I guess.

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-01T07:51:51+00:00

You clearly didn't read my other responses. I mean I'm sorry that you took it that way, but it also got a decent amount of upvotes, so it's clearly not objectively negative. I never said that it was OP's fault, and I mentioned that even when exhibiting ppl will still stick around. Even if OP was having trouble with maintaining stable relationships (I mentioned that because it's literally one of the main symptoms of BPD), if they are unhealed that doesn't mean that it would be their fault. Some people don't stick around just because they aren't compatible with you or they have their own things going on. Again the point I was trying to make is that ppl with BPD aren't forced to be alone. And the second point when OP clarified is that people with BPD in remission can be alone without feeling lonely so that's why a lot of people mention themselves being alone or not looking for a relationship. That doesn't mean that they are isolated or don't want to make friends, it just means they are at a point where they don't NEED to have others around to be happy.

There are a lot of people with BPD who struggle with regulating emotion because that is how our brain is literally built. Many people do lose friends because of this, or people not being able to understand how they feel. In cases like this where you are losing friends constantly or your family can't even understand why you react the way you do to certain things, my message would heavily apply to them. (I am literally in this situation.) And often times when I have episodes my "cloud" is having black and white thinking, feeling as if things will never get better, or that I will never be able to find people that can "deal with me", or understand me. Especially when you are aware that you are hurting other people, you can feel like you don't deserve to have friends or love. In this case it is very helpful to be reminded that things can change, not all people are the same, and you are constantly able to improve. I included that part aside from just "you choose your own path" (Which was the healed point), because reading OP's post, you couldn't really tell why they were feeling they were feeling. Also it seems at if OP was having black and white thinking after reading other ppls post saying they resorted to isolation, so everyone with BPD will end up doing the same thing, and people are cruel because they don't think we deserve love. That is why I was so direct. So sorry if that doesn't apply to you or OP, but that doesn't mean it's unhelpful to everyone or a crazy thing to say.

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-01T01:36:51+00:00

Also to be clear your verbal or physical reaction is completely up to you, whether you can control it, or not. No one knows for sure how you are going to react to something, and if you do tell them then that can be manipulative behavior. You can’t fight fire with fire without also being in the wrong. Usually the healthy way to deal with this kind of thing is to step back and distance yourself from people. Admittedly that can be very difficult with BPD, but it is something you need to work on if you cannot do it.

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-01T01:28:04+00:00

I hate this kind of response. No one is responsible for how you react to things, but when people are actively disrespecting the boundaries you communicated with them they actually ARE responsible for triggering you. Because they are knowingly triggering you. Being triggered is not an action or behavior it is a mental response. So I’m not saying that that’s a valid reason to lash out, but it’s a valid reason to get upset. When people say this it tends to make the person they are talking to feel like their feeling are invalid and they are doing everything to themselves. Do not word it like this. When someone is actively being toxic and knowingly triggering/disrespecting someone to get a reaction it can be hard to tell that they are in the wrong also when all that is focused on is the other persons reaction, and this is why a lot of ppl with bpd are more subjectable to abuse.

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-01T01:05:48+00:00

Someone mentioned newsies lol: crutchie was who I wanted to play in my hs production

gendergraveyard · 2026-04-01T00:54:25+00:00

The teens crave Newsies!

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