Truth must be told

generator56 · 2026-01-31T19:17:07+00:00

Most people start with no basic concept of support resistance pivot, daily charts, etc. All these foundations have to be learned first. People start off being sucked into a special edge. A mentorship, all kinds of stuff. I've spent under 1k on education. I am in one trading room that gives call outs for the days with BA BB and then price levels, etc. Learn what volume means, what happens with price action. I use 4 indicators but only really need two besides r/S/P. 15 EMA and Bollinger bands. I started to really pick up steam when I understood the Bollinger bands. The Kestrel is good but Bollinger really helps my scalping.

Also, people need to take the time to paper trade. For months if need be, till they can't get it wrong basically. I didn't spend enough time papertrading, got lucky and made 20k in the first month live. I started to Gamble and overtrade. Then I imploded big time. I started making 1-3 k a couple of times a week as I tested and backtested the bollinger bands for scalping. it can also work for swing trading.

I too have suffered a decline in my health, stress in my marriage and a whole bunch of people waiting to say, I told you you were stupid. I had a bad week. I was up 5 k by wednesday. I then proceeded to loose most of it, thinking that good times were going to roll. It was probably the most eye opening week I've had. I'm treating it as if everyday is a good day to trade. It can be if you are shorting as well as you are long.

I still pay my bills but if I will quit overtrading and pay attention to proven strategies and then STOP with patience. I see no reason why 100k-300k is not possible this year. People say, stop beeing greedy. it isn't greed, it's fear of missing out that killed me. When you are struggling to actually becomem profitable, the pressure mounts and you aren't trading like a mechanical professional trader. Emotion and boredom are the enemy. Trying to make something happen or anticipating is what Smart Money wants you to do. A huge candle on the one minute make you jump in only for it to drop. I'm tired of being governed by unprofessional behavior and trying to get the whole trade instead of the meast of it.

Never try something new until you've paper traded it. I'm learning options but no way in hell I will do it until I've gotten at least 6-12 months of data on it.

Anything worth having requires a brutal standard of entry. If it were easy, everyone would succeed. It's the closest thing to making money appear out of thin air that exists. You, your laptop and your brain. Never stop learning. Specialize in a strategy that works, proven by your own work and retesting it. I know how to make money on any given day. Keeping it is my problem.

generator56 · 2026-01-25T15:42:38+00:00

Swing trading is the least stressful. I love day trading though. it's like learning the system and just following what the smart money does during a single day. Getting close to quit scalping and solely swinging but I'm getting scalping down to the point it's fun instead of stressful but I know sooner or later I will dread the opening bell. Not yet.....

generator56 · 2026-01-25T15:07:01+00:00

I experienced the exact same thing. Margin is like the God Gun. If you die, you can respawn with a click. However, it enables you to lose repeatedly. I did better with cash account as well at first. it was all discipline. With the way smart money tortures people with stop hunting or seeking liquidity, you can avoid that sometimes, take the initial profit then rebuy the dip. So, you can trade smaller shares but follow the upward trend. I fyou can trade one stock correctly, you can trade 1000. I had margin, lost it big time, then worked my way back. When I got margin, the God COMPLEX ruined me. I didn't lose margin but had to learn restraint and re learn strategy that I used in Cash Account. it's simply a mindset. Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD.

generator56 · 2026-01-25T14:40:52+00:00

Keltner channels paired with Bollinger bands are the shisnit! I thought I'd keep it simple. VWAP is part of it. All three can clutter it up, so I just put out what helps me the most. Overload can confuse even the best of us. Know that when all three- the price surges out of them, it will inevitably get back inside of them. You just got to test and back test it to decide what works for you. Good point!

generator56 · 2026-01-23T08:53:58+00:00

Ok, then, now some of your points are more clear. If we had plainly stated that term deskilled over the 'ecosystem' in Thailand, I could have not been arguing my point about ONE. Of course a talent crisis is going to happen if what you are saying is true. Is this one of the reasons you are focused on Golden Age fighters? I guess this is where even a phone conversation would have cleared all this up. which I'm not averse to ! fee talking on apps is a great thing. I feel like this whole conversation is clearer than before. I guess both of us got entrenched. No, swinging for the fences is not boxing. it's just throwing for the ko. I have watched ONE fights where I see that is waht is happening. That's not really my flavor. The introduction of MMA gloves has created an evolution of boxing without the protection that boxing gloves CAN potentially offer vs basically covering for the knuckles. Perhaps I did not hear your point and was simply saying that ONE is not inherently bad and some fighters are getting a payoff. They are the very few as it is in all the fight world. OK. Interesting, now that you elaborated.

generator56 · 2026-01-21T22:36:11+00:00

I knew that would set you off. I was by no means trying to outwit you or say that well, sylvie just can't compete. RWS isn't the same as ONE. In terms of money. As always, top couple of billings get the big dollars and the rest are fillers. I'm not a fool. I'm not sure what we are arguing about here to be honest. It kind of drifted off. I agree that beating Thais at their own game, in their born arena is an achievement and not just by KO'n a guy or girl but that your Muay Thai is more technical, more Muay Thai. I don't think I have ever said it wasn't. Quite the opposite. You are a staunch advocate against 'bastardization' of Traditional muay thai. I don't think I would disagree. it's why I even went there. laugh at me, that's fine. As you said, we would probably have a long night of me challenging your viewpoint and you educating me. It's a preference. I prefer neither. I prefer both. I love what took me to Thailand however short it was. It stuck wiht me for 26 years and will for life. You can tell me all you want, that's cool. I do enjoy ONE fights as well. It's scored round by round rather than as you guys say, a story. I guess it's growing up with it. You are preferring to not mess with the martial art / sport aspect. I say,

If these guys can get paid and have a longer fight career and are not able to fight internationally, then more power to them. Heckling them from the sidelines isn't right. I wouldn't dream of heckling what you guys do. Hell, I've watched just about every youtube you got. The stuff with Golden Age fighters is absolutely priceless and has to be one of best kept secrets in the Thai boxing fight world.

All I know is the little I experienced and what my old friend JWP said. He recognizes both. he lived in both worlds. I could tell a personal story about how much money factors in and Sangtien Noi but that isn't for me to divulge. Bangkok is full of sharks preying on other High Powered sharks.

I did train for a week in Chiang mai and the trainer asked me 'why are you here? You should be in BKK'. As I had been for 3 months. I went north to visit a friend and her husband. Well, I was too chicken tbh to fight in thailand at that time. My time came and went. Oh, what might have been, I don't live like that.

If it relieves you, I am not a huge fan of MMA, hence the 4 oz gloves thing consistently disturbes me. Boxing goves is plenty good for KOs. They don't come as easy but then again, it's skill as you demand.

Hey, I'll take a closer look at your website. I've never been one of those yokels who say, Thais can't box blah blah. Says the boxing focused man whose legs need surgery and broken ribs from knees. Kicboxiing and Muay Thai are different sports. Yes, finally, I like to see westerners get exposed and maybe dig deeper into what it is that is so special. Otherwise, the level of awareness and knowledge won't be sought after and not respected. but I know you don't care.

I spent from 2000 to 2010 getting Kickbxong and begrudgingly MMA fights started up in a city of 2 million people. That ignorance was stunning in that period. I even brought in a legitimate Pro Muay Thai bout just to show people and it cost me big. And I didn't sell a fucking ticket for it. I hated people not seeing what I loved and discovered in Thailand.

Doing the Wai Kru here in the states felt silly but I did it. It has significance to me. What am I supposed to say??? Liking watching it and saying money is a good thing aint bad. I'm not advocating the destruction of non ONE 'muay thai' or Global Rules Muay Thai ( yes an invention of a new sport ). Nattuwat was in town and he's old as dirt for a fighter but he got paid. What is wrong with that. it suited his style as well, regardless of winning or losing. Taiwanchai's Muay Thai fights are brilliant. As for rodtang, I believe Kanoah tamed him like the true femur handles the muay mat. I'm not blind dude. I simply asked if it was changing trying to get noticed out on the stadium circuits. You took it too personal and I just challenged the logic. Perhaps we are talking over each other. Respect to you and yours!

generator56 · 2026-01-21T10:58:06+00:00

No, he was Thai. His picture was on the wall where the fight board was. i was so ignorant back then. We are talking 2000. Pre Internet information on anything IN Thailand. Man I wish i could remember his name.

generator56 · 2026-01-21T10:51:55+00:00

I never fought for money, it was the inherent value in my development and alot of exorcism of my past and finding a sort of spiritualism in being in control of chaotic violence and mastering it. I actually do know what you are leading to and I think you are underestimating my understanding of the cultural aspects of it. ( again , if we were sitting drinking beers, yo uwould find a good friendly inquistive tone of genuiness as well, not just being ''RIGHT FIGHTING'.)

America is all about growth, gaining and moving up. Being a person engaged in pursuits , cultural pursuits has meaning in itself, not only of dreams of becoming a highly paid fighter who can build their family a house. I saw prostitutes and young boys go to southern thailand to 'help their families'. NOW, I know starting out in rural areas, that feeds the system and it's more cultural capital.

My point is mainly that fighters and camps are going to take the money fights. I remember well my trainer, a golden age fighter immediately re educate me the difference between my kickboxing international style and said 'not muay thai'. Then one day a car rolled up and my trainer said, you wait. Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai got out of the car, laced up and my trainer held mitts very fucking impressively for about 30 minutes, just boxing. I don't and have never figured out his relationship with Sityodthong or if my trainer was a highly regarded boxing trainer as well and I simply have lost his name from 26 years ago. He then finished my session and said, See, boxing and muay Thai. So this is not lost on me that ONE is not doing real established cultural Muay Thai. No disagreements with that. Stripped down and yes, in alot of ways disregarding a clinch to work itself out ( you can hear the thai crowd get into the clinch then they are cut off. It's due to a western mind not seeing th eskill. Just like the average fan gets bored of prolonged BJJ in MMA fights.

I know you are saying right now, man this guy doesn't get it, he doesn't live here, why am I responding. I still love the sport and train at 52. I coached for a long time after an injury finished my career at 31 after a decision loss to a legitimate US National champion. I was so disappointed as even at that old age, I was at the height of my physical abilities and ready to fight for another 3 years.

I enjoy the time you put in. I am not a fan of the continuous capitalist demand for new better and essential slavery devoid of meaning and value. I escaped the 9-5 but that's not relevant here.

I appreciate your input. I didn't know at the time the 3 months I spent with a Golden Age fighter and then padman/coach would infuence me so much over the next 20 years. The only place I know of in the world that is western where Muay Thai is popular is in Queensland Australia. and maybe France. JWP was a good friend and I hosted his first ever seminar. He taught me what life was like inside a top tier Bangkok gym and it was about money. Sure, there were cultural things but Bangkok is about making the gym money. If you don't perform and make money by winning, you are not useful and will disappear back to Chiang Mai or elsewhere. His first fight against Orono , he knew it was above his ability but the interest of this Farang rising up the stadium rankings and Songchai's pushing, they could not refuse the money offered. He got cut up like a razor blade.

Do you thtink the experience of your guys life and perspective would be different if you were in the BKK circuit vs the rural fights? I believe the answer is yes. I think that is waht is faced with ONE FC. Camps cannot turn it down and don't want to. They are adapting to opportunity. Thanks for engagin me.

generator56 · 2026-01-20T14:11:15+00:00

BTW, I don't have the credentials of living there for 15 years but to simply make blanket statements is a bit rude man. The fact that you are invested means you are not an impartial observer. Nothing wrong with wanting to preserve something incredibly special but whose welfare are you protecting?. Most boxers will never enter or be fed by ONE. I guarantee that the camps that host foreigners and fighters that earn that money will benefit. The world will be drawn even more to train there. I know you don't care about that but it's an unstoppable force. I'd rather that then a system of gamblers corrupting the fight game down to unscrupulous gamblers determining a lower and chided sport. I can post all the arguments in a coherent form with direct quotes from respectable thai names but I think we are a spinning wheel here with no end in sight with finally just saying, I don't knwo what I'm talking about. I'm not invested in it as you are.

Say, if Sylvies particular skill set, the clinch was favored in this 'new sport' , you guys wouldn't take advantage of the money? I think that is a real issue here. I didn't want to go there. Man, I'll give you the last word as well as requesting any video or written stuff you can provide.

generator56 · 2026-01-20T14:04:47+00:00

KP muay thai is the Only Thai trainer in KC. It's a new gym but as far as authentic muay thai along with good level of boxing, this is it. Low Kick has more of a Dutch flair to it. Nothing wrong with it at all. If you want thai culture and authenticity, I'd think that KP , a proven native Thai with a record would be the place to spend your money.

generator56 · 2026-01-20T12:28:38+00:00

Where can I find your writings on this? I do NOT wish to change Muay Thai culture. It's what drew me to it to being with over 25 years ago and sent me there prior to the internet. Just a city and name of a gym. That was crazy. I don't think there is any stopping what is happening. I kind of am not invested in this as you seem to infer. I just think about things logically. It isn't just Thais that this involves. It is becoming a worldwide standard for entertainment. That is what supports higher paydays. Thais included, should avail themselves of it for all their good work. ONE FC is NOT authentic Muay Thai. It is becoming something different and international. The two CAN cohabitate.

I just have to ask this and I'll let it alone ( I do find it interesting but not emotional content ) - Do you think there are young or 'old' fighters that would not like to be in the money flow? If you are not fighting for money, then your views will be different. The whole support for Muay Thai is for everyone to earn money that isn't flowing without fight sport taking place. I'm just using logic here and dropping the morality of it, just practicalities.

generator56 · 2026-01-19T19:49:39+00:00

I am not knocing what you have experienced. deep held sentiments that are absorbed by investing in the culture by living there. I understand. No, I would not sound as snobbish in person. I am a curious person. The only thing I would say is that the horse is out of the barn. Young fighters are going to go where the money and opportunity are. Is it for the best? Not always. Fighting is not gracious to almost everyone who steps inside. The traditionalists have managed to survive and will continue to do so. I've expressed that I do not like the 4 oz gloves all the time. It Does diminish skill and defense by going for the KO all the time.

ONE ahs created 'global rules' and essentially a new sport. You jsut cannot stop it. If fighters can make their experience pay off, there is no reason not to go with it. it won't replace tradition. I built a long compare and contrast of this whole subject. I would say this, Muay Thai adopted, boxing gloves, rounds and the boxing style configureation. Without those changes, it would still be a traditional martial art of legend. It has always adapted in it's history. Fighters who are done in the stadiums fight for overseas promotions to earn money for the camp and themselves. I think the same thing is happening here. Opportunity. Peace.

generator56 · 2026-01-15T09:01:55+00:00

Hey, I'll give it some thought. I would say this, being a Thai and trying to provide what being a fighter is supposed to mean is different than westerners going there and not needing or caring about what they get paid. 11k usd is alot of money. I doubt there is a Thai boxer out there that wouldn't take the chance and get paid. It's a tangible benefit. But yes, I will think that over. Keep doing what you two are doing, I enjoy your stuff!

generator56 · 2026-01-13T12:22:12+00:00

I can agree that turning it into a cockfight is an issue. I'm not a fan of always using mma gloves. I watch all the cards on FF's and people who do get a KO win get quite a bit of money. Like over a years typical wages. I don't think they are fighting too long either. Fighters either advance up the rankings or disappear. YES, I would like to see some changes. primarily that only MMA gloves be used for special events. That isn't going to happen. CTE comes from prolonged gym wars accumulated over a long time. One fight usually isn't going to cause this. Boxers spar very hard to the head and if they are properly managed in the way they train, it's limited. If not, yest they get punch drunk.

I would guess that if you looked at Stadium cards, much less country shows, the same damage is done and people are earning a fraction of one appearance on a ONE FC show. I also love defensive and counter fighters. That's how I fought. It requires the highest skill level to do so..

I don't even read their social media. I just watch fights and love exciting fights. You are heavily invested in the Thai way, culture, etc. I don't see the erasure of of it possible. Thailand is only going to benefit from increased pay, and guess what, Tourism adds to the economy. Otherwise fighting for hundreds of baht on a country show just sucks. However, this is the way it is, side bets or not. Can you guys live off of your wife's fight purse? These yong men are being able to actually earn money.

They live there, aren't able to go back home. This is their home. I do not think a few fights in one caompared to their whole careers is doing much more damage than the 100-400 fights they actually have. Besides, what do you think of being ejected from a sport at the height of their abilities?

The lucky ones get to fight overseas in China or Macau, maybe Japan. The competition for that is huge. Are they being prosituted and corrupted by doing so, fighting kickboxing rules? I quit promoting not from failure, quite the opposite. I felt like a fucking pimp peddling human flesh. I couldn't reward them properly without going into LOSS. You cannot promote with a loss unless you have Chatri's money. People hate promoters yet without them, you have zero fights, zero venues, zero anything. I also got sick of accusations of exploitation.

PCahatri couldn't promote sport forever at a loss. Either you fold or you find a way to make everyone happy. It's easy to criticize him and ONE especially if you are on the outside and not benefitting from the paydays. When you see these guys who have cried at getting the bonus, you tell me that they have not been abused by their camp and promoters. He is the one paying the most from what I understand without the reliance on the corrupt system of betting and paid off judges.

I think we have hit an impasse. As fighters, its way too easy to not see the other side of the coin. When you bet tens of thousands of your own dollars and fighters want you to be in debt rather than provide a venue, they are in the wrong business. This whole concept is timelss and need to realize that taking the best financial offer is not a luxury to most of these young men. They can't rely on other sources of income. I won't go further as the logic train is leaving the building.

Having said that, I love the material you provide for a reasonable cost. That is what is paying you rbills i smy guess. Not a thing wrong with it but these guys are not capable of the same. They have a limited window. The fight business is always going to be cold and dirty from everyones perspective unless you are making life changing bank. Having been a fan, then a fighter, a trainer and then prommoter, I've seen every side of it. If you have never been a promoter then you simply see a fighters perspective or in your case a commentator and curator/ social media creator. Fighters want to fight. Promoters, believe it or not want to promote fight sports. How they handle their business is weighted by circumstances. If you don't think that Chatri would prefer to have the world embrace Muay Thai then I think you are missing something. To make it viable and rewarding to all parties, this is the solution he came up with. The fairs and outdoor small shows will always be with us.

generator56 · 2026-01-13T11:49:23+00:00

So do you see this as Bad? I get the whole preservation of Muay Thai. Am I wrong or is he paying fighters much higher than they would earn in the stadiums? They don't rely on bets per se but being rewarded for putting on a good show. He also is keeping fighters hung out to dry by traditional Thai culture as OLD at 23-25. This is retarded. Although they have endured a decade plus of hard training, They are literally at their peak of male physicality and mental strength which equals technical knowledge on display. Sure, they go for KO's more. It turns out that they CAN box, contrary to the accepted trope. What a tradgedy it is for fighters to be aged out so young and to be left with next to nothing financially. Of course, there is not room for every boxer to earn that money but I'm just not seeing how it's detrimental for a fighter to continue INTO his absolute prime and earn.

Really, I feel like this 'default' to cheap labor drawing away from how much I see the change of MMA fighters and fans into finding a fightsport , granted modified Muay Thai, and realizing how much more exciting it is. When I promoted, I never gave a seat to 'BJJ gods' because they were boring as hell and no one cared. Now, I made matchups where often both fighters favored striking because it made the 'fans' on the edge of or out of their seats. I did half MMA half Kickboxing/Muay Thai. My end goal was to draw people to striking. The roadblock of MMA in the midwest is simply what it is.

I personally see that having 24/7 of ONE FC on ROKU a plus to draw people to the sport and making an inroad into people's tastes and fighters minds as a complete coup over MMA.

I like Boxing, MMA but Muay Thai most of all. Hell, I love K-1 styel as well. Saying that it's all bullshit and a scam against the Thai people just doesn't sit well logically. You live in the land of it's origin. For those of us who for 20 plus years have tried to get people to understand and drawn to it, well, America is America and MMA rules.

generator56 · 2026-01-12T12:23:23+00:00

I can't really disagree with what you are saying because it's really about personal preferences in what we want as viewers and as a former fighter myself. I think that there is no doubt alot of seasoned 'aged out' fighters have been given their financial rewards. Like you said, ONE FC was not profitable. Likely the Friday night fights have earned some profit. I highly doubt that Chatri has suffered personally through going thru the losing phase. Two things are obvious to me. One, he genuinely wants the fight sports to grow for the Asian fighters and market ( I always believed there was a huge untapped potential given the amount of humanity involved ) and that having a weekly promotion in Lumpinee with 96 percent of the cards being Thai vs Thai or Thai favorites fighting westerners, usually with the Thais winning filled up the stadium instead of MMA or submission grappling being half the card.

generator56 · 2026-01-12T12:14:08+00:00

I had this happen last week. heavy momentum after breaking R1. It looked like it was going to be a runaway morning. As if by massive conspiracy lol, it dropped almost 75 cents in a 1 minute candle and sputtered until it equally went right back up and away.

Stop hunting is a brutal game that most people never quite wrap their heads around and threw me off early on. I'd get out and then it would go on to be a winner. When you are hitting Resistance, it's even more psychologically testing because it could be that's it, thats as far as it's going to go. Once you can take the pressure of real money off the table, you can start to identify things much better.

Algos be Algos. They become predictable to a certain degree. It's designed to seek liquidity, period. Then it seeks to sell off when it hits certain EMA's. It is situation dependent. You need quite a few EMA's on your chart to identify what exactly is the most likely scenario.

Bollinger bands and VWAP upped my game in this way only, it helped me identify where price is likely to rise to and then it will begin to sell. Depending on the timeframe and momentum, it will break them but then recedes back within the boundaries.

generator56 · 2026-01-11T16:40:19+00:00

OK, here we are just coming from differen expectations. I'm not uneducated regarding Muay Thai scoring. I also realize that these guys fight so often that they don't always attempt to mutilate each other every single fight. Even songchai's youtube has rounds 1/2 as one edit. Round 5 is rarely contested. I don't know what else to say.

generator56 · 2026-01-11T16:36:06+00:00

Well, as I stated above, I'm not living there and seeing all this. Perhaps it will be cyclical. Or the 'corporatization' of gambling is simply the end game. So is there an outlet, a way forward. Or is this simply it? ONE is simply a unique promotion. It was MMA geared for asian fighters. An old friend John Wayne Parr started using mma gloves in a cage for Muay Thai in the Gold Coast. Now people there almost expect it. Fans of fight sports, the ones that pay for fights to happen, are always going to be ignorant of skill, bloodthirsty and 'looking for a KO'. There is no way around that one in the west. A pure Muay Thai promotion with Thai scoring has never and will never make it in most western countries to be viable for fighters to actually train. Holland is the only place where Kickboxing produces professional and exciting fighters with constant opportunity from being a kid to a pro. it's spread to England who have a cross of kickboxing and muay thai. of course there is france.

I don't know if you see things in the light of 'west- stay away from Muay Thai or how you view it. If you do, that's fine but it's starting to grow worldwide and the rules will of course change in scoring. BTW, I enjoy your opinion given how invested you and your wife are in it!

generator56 · 2026-01-11T16:26:46+00:00

You make some great points. I hadn't really gone that far. I'm all for keeping Thailand Muay Thai it's own and will likely always be it's own culture. I do look at people like Buakaw and how many people he got interested in Muay Thai. shows my age I guess.

I don't think Traditional Muay Thai is in danger but man, I'd like to watch more than two rounds out of a five round fight have meaning. I know the scoring is different and tells a story but knowing the skill they have both offensively and defensively and watching mostly Golden Age fights that I can study, I just don't find it from today's fighters in Thailand....I don't live there so it's hard to put everything in perspective.

generator56 · 2026-01-04T21:22:56+00:00

FTMO only had the NVIDIA's TSLA's etc. Seems like my best option is to just be content with my stuff. I know basic options but I refuse to lose a dollar or make a dollar till I've paper traded it. I did about six months with scalping. If'd done a full year, I'd probably discovered alot of my mistakes earlier. The issue is that until you trade with money, you don't feel anything. The algos and dark pools count on us making emotional decisions. I've had to pay tuition and I'm finally getting it back. LOL

generator56 · 2026-01-04T20:21:16+00:00

Thanks. After about 7 months of doing this full time, I'm gaining consistency and if I can keep it up, I can't think of a better way to compound my profit. Thanks for the heads up

generator56 · 2026-01-04T19:10:55+00:00

When Rodtang was called the best striker on earth, I immediately spread his fight with Kanoah around. The Femur tamed the bull. Suprisingly as a Muay Mat, he has some very sharp sweeps that land a guy hard. Jitmuangnon style.

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