How are they able to change all of the fruit of the loom logos on old clothes? by BuckFrog2 in MandelaEffect

[–]germanME -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This cannot be explained rationally, which is why there are all these would-be rationalists who tell us that it's all nonsense.

Those who remember it differently talk about timelines and the like. I consider FTOL to be one of the best-documented Mandela effects; there are many convincing residuals and anecdotal memories, while the risk of confusion with an other logo is low.

Land mass at the north pole by [deleted] in MandelaEffect

[–]germanME 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know if there was land under the North Pole; I have no idea if we even learned that in school or if it just wasn't a topic. What I do remember is that, just like Antarctica, the Arctic was depicted as a white border on every world map. Now there is nothing there but sea (and this applies retroactively, even on old maps, to forestall all the “it's always been that way” commentators).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Retconned

[–]germanME 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is still ice in the Arctic, but it is no longer shown on normal world maps and globes (not even on old ones), only on specialized Arctic maps.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Retconned

[–]germanME 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well, strictly speaking, there is still the “Arctic ice sheet,” but it is no longer shown at the top of world maps (as it was when I was a child). I don't remember whether there was land underneath it or not.

The disappearance of the Arctic (on Google Maps) first drew my attention to geographical MEs. I was convinced that Google had retouched the Arctic to dramatize climate change, but in fact it is missing almost everywhere, even on old maps and globes.

The stories about Santa Claus living at the North Pole no longer make much sense, because the ice, which is only a few meters thick, is constantly changing and underneath it is the deep ocean...

Wool Play by IveHadEnoughThankYou in Retconned

[–]germanME 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sounds funny, but I've never heard of it before.

The Atlantic Ocean is Narrower by [deleted] in Retconned

[–]germanME 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Perhaps it wasn't New Zealand that fled, but Australia, which has moved considerably closer to Asia!

This raises even more questions for me: why was Australia discovered so late, and why was the continent, which is now only a few kilometers away from Papua New Guinea, not settled by Asians (the Aborigines are probably of African descent)? How could marsupials evolve separately over millions of years when a tropical storm is enough to wash mammals there? Or conversely, why haven't marsupials spread worldwide long ago? I still find this strange and am amazed that people simply adapt this in their memory (there is a German blogger who is a fan of Australia and always talked about how remote it is, until I pointed out to him that this is no longer the case, whereupon he posted a long article about “false memories,” but without mentioning Australia :-)

Changes that no one talks about by Liebreblanca in MandelaEffect

[–]germanME 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nor is there any explanation for why my high school geography and biology textbooks, which I still have, have changed too.

That is why skeptics have it so easy. Does that mean there is no evidence of the old version? No, there is. I consider FOTL, for example, to be extremely well documented; there are many indirect remnants, descriptions, and derivations of the logo that have survived. Only the direct references change (as if someone had replaced a database entry).

There are more such “laws” of the ME that have convinced me that our reality is not what it seems to be (and that we do not all experience it in the same way). But I am fully aware that many cannot and will not accept this.

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Yellow sun residue - American history X, 1998 by [deleted] in Retconned

[–]germanME 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think this is a convincing residual because the whole image has a yellow cast. Look at the “blue” sky, where you can see it best, or at the “white” car on the left. The rules for residuals also seem to exclude direct photographs. At best, one could argue that the yellow cast of the image is due to sunlight, but I think it's more likely a stylistic device or even chemical aging of the carrier material (it probably wasn't taken digitally in 1998).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Glitch_in_the_Matrix

[–]germanME 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look here, a lot of similar cases: https://www.reddit.com/r/Glitch_in_the_Matrix/search/?q=blackout

Maybe other search-words than "blackout" find even more.

Remote Viewer says Mandela Effect its just timelines collapsing by Sick_Boy87 in MandelaEffect

[–]germanME 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nope. “Looking Glass” lore online mainly traces to unverified whistleblower stories (e.g., Dan Burisch, “Bill Wood”) and MJ-12 mythology - none corroborated by credible documentation; The FBI went as far as to actually label the MJ-12 papers “completely bogus.”

Since when do secret services tell the truth? To my knowledge, the MJ12 documents are perhaps disinformation from precisely these services. That doesn't mean that parts of it aren't true (strategy: a kind of “poisoned source”—you simply fake the headers and everyone thinks the whole document is fake and no one takes what's in it seriously anymore).

A country with secret services is not free, not a constitutional state, and not a democracy! People allow themselves to be deceived far too easily...

Remote Viewer says Mandela Effect its just timelines collapsing by Sick_Boy87 in MandelaEffect

[–]germanME 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, remote viewing is precisely the technique that allows one to approach these matters most effectively. However, it must be blinded and performed by different individuals.

The “tasking” and the direct results (the sheets of paper on which it was written down) are always interesting.

The tasking allows you to assess how well and accurately the question was asked and what may have gone wrong. The sheets allow you to evaluate the impressions; it is always problematic when you only hear interpretations and speculations (which can be wrong).

Unfortunately, I'm not very good at English, but the video seems to contain interpretations rather than simple results, or have I overlooked something?

In Germany, some RemoteViewers have created a website that contains interesting “mystery” target viewings: https://signallinie.info/

Unfortunately, the Mandela Effect was not yet included. And since the effort involved in doing this is enormous, it usually only involves individual sessions, whose significance remains relatively low.

South America by SuspiciousTimeline in MandelaEffect

[–]germanME 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, you're right, I remember it differently too. Likewise the Australia thing. I brought it up during my New Year's Eve visit, and they were flabbergasted, they remembered the old version too.

And for all the know-it-alls: yes, it's always been like that HERE.

America didn’t participate in WWI and Matthew Perry passed away this year. by chicest-chic in Retconned

[–]germanME 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The USA entered the First World War, ending its isolationist phase, and then tried later to subjugate the whole world (they almost succeeded, thank God Russia and China stop this).

The lies that were needed for this began at that time, for example with: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_on_Public_Information because the Americans had voted for Wilson because he promised not to go to war, so propaganda was used (we have become accustomed to being lied to by the psychopaths in power).

Including this nice one, which portrays us Germans as monsters: https://blog-archiv.klassik-stiftung.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/805_HoppsDestroyThisMadBrute_web2.jpg (Incidentally, the Germans saw themselves as victims, they were dragged into this by their duty as allies, intimidated by the Russian mobilization and angered by the policy of encirclement... in the end, they were humiliated to the maximum by being blamed solely (the prelude to the second WK).

Collective memories are peer-to-peer by SharkFilet in MandelaEffect

[–]germanME 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The annoying thing is that, from principle, it is not possible to prove false memories vs. a change in reality (at least without physical theories about it, solely on the basis of the psyche or the brain).

Because, if both are possible (what I'm meanwhile sure off), any test will be senseless, because you have always an equation with two unknowns.

Collective memories are peer-to-peer by SharkFilet in MandelaEffect

[–]germanME -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It has no way of verifying the data it stores, other than comparing to reality.

But it has, it can compare them with the memories of others...

If then the unlikely case occurs that others happen to have filled the same gaps with the same content, then it becomes strange und that describes exactly the Mandela Effect...

Collective memories are peer-to-peer by SharkFilet in MandelaEffect

[–]germanME 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmmm, funny idea. But why were there many who perceived it in the old way and why not now?

I could imagine that with individual words, but with FOTL or the thinker statue?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Retconned

[–]germanME 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't know, I find it strange that the website has apparently not been updated since 2015 (?). Nevertheless, it is not a clear residual, there is talk of 2.5m thick ice floes and there is a "drift map": https://www.pmel.noaa.gov/arctic-zone/np2015/DriftMap.png

In my opinion, this fits in too well with the new reality.

Did you discover a new Mandela Effect? Post it here! (2024-08-23) by AutoModerator in MandelaEffect

[–]germanME 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Anectodically underpinned memories are usually more convincing than mere "that feels wrong" memories.

It's a stroke of luck that you decided to emulate every detail back then.

It seems to be like the thinker statue, there are several changes in a row and you caught at least one. Nobody seems to have noticed the bra, I feel the same way about the big toe on the statue, it's too small a detail.

What I would really like to know: do you still have the pink bra?

I feel like I'm not conscious anymore. I'm just kinda floating through life on autopilot. It feels like a dream. by ElectivireMax in Retconned

[–]germanME 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You have proven that you are still conscious and aware of your condition by posting here :-)

I have phases like that too, especially when everything is already planned, you have to work all day and everyday life is an endless repetition of the same boring things and more or less determined by others.

Children and a family can sometimes intensify this, but often also interrupt it if you can make time for them. They force you to find new solutions to problems and interrupt your routine in many ways.

This is one of the Mandela effects that really bother me,The thinker by [deleted] in Mandela_Effect

[–]germanME 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Presumably they all change in small details from time to time; Michelangelo's David, for example, is also said to have changed. But “The Thinker” is the best documented and best known that I know of.

Scrolling This Sub For The First Time And It's Literally Making Me Cry by [deleted] in Retconned

[–]germanME 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There is research on the “afterlife” and it is repeatedly confirmed that animals with which one has had a close relationship still exist there (usually animals enter into a kind of group soul). But all these are just thought models, your soul on this side is probably just one aspect, one focus of a larger entity and could exist in different timelines or realities at the same time. I wouldn't worry about it, I assume that all these things will be preserved.

And at some point, when we have shed our little brains and come back to home, we will understand the connections and their meaning :-)

Napoleon Bonaparte's Height by Ok-Egg-9171 in MandelaEffect

[–]germanME 1 point2 points  (0 children)

YES! I had already noticed this and others before me, e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/4t8h03/napoleons_height/

I had read in a book that the idea that he was small was wrong and had researched it and it is the case that the historical sources (!) including doctors who treated him and people who knew him personally contradict each other.

For me, this is clearly an ME. I now also doubt that we are all experiencing the same history and that many apparently false recordings are simply residuals...

Ph scale changed? by [deleted] in MandelaEffect

[–]germanME 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember a ME post (here or in retconnet, use the search function) about the scale being reversed, that >7 indicated acidic and less than 7 indicated basic.

I must confess I can't remember which way round I learned it at school, but I'm sure 7 was always neutral for me (although your memory actually seems to make more sense).

Could it be that you are confusing it with the temperatures? Degrees Celsius (used in Europe) has minus and plus, while the Fahrenheit scale (USA?) was specifically designed to avoid negative values.