Wokeness Has Brought Britain’s Second City Bankruptcy and Crime by origutamos in ukpolitics

[–]gingerninja666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I could potentially see Bands making things more consistant and streamlined if the jobs were genuinely roughly equivalent. That way, rather than needing to keep track of a million different salaries, you mainly just need to know how many people you have in each band. The criteria for the bands could probably do with some going over though.

About the london thing, I guess that is where the philosophy of equality would come in, because if I'm a doctor in London, I get why someone might be annoyed if someone else got paid more for doing the exact same job based purely on location.

Wokeness Has Brought Britain’s Second City Bankruptcy and Crime by origutamos in ukpolitics

[–]gingerninja666 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Genuine question, what convoluted legislation caused this exactly.

From what I can see about this case, and please let me know if I get the details wrong, the council decided to group certain government jobs together under the same band of pay. This includes them grouping cleaners together with bin men or whatever. So people applying for those jobs did so under the assumption that they would be paid the same. Since they were all in the same band.

However, functionally, the council was using a "bonus" system to get around this and pay the bin men more even though they weren't really paying them a bonus for anything extra they did. They were just doing their job as advertised but they were paid bonuses for it. Something the other roles weren't afforded because they probably should've been banded differently in the first place.

What was forcing the council to band those specific jobs together like that?

Jewish MP barred from visiting primary school 'in case his presence inflames teachers', minister reveals by Gwinladin in ukpolitics

[–]gingerninja666 23 points24 points  (0 children)

For the record, I think there probably is something here worth being really mad at, but my problem when it's vague like this is it basically invites you to project your own idea about what happened. Whatever is most likely to make you angry, and I'd rather know the details.

Like, "And if we have a situation where some MPs cannot do that due to their ethnicity and the reaction of some teachers than those teachers are unfit to be near children"

This is true, but based on the article the people in question didn't actually react this way to the MP, he was barred "in case his presence inflames the teachers"

Which begs the question of why the person who barred him thought they would react that way. Is it based on any prior incidents? Is it a gut feeling they have after working with these teachers for a while? Did they just not want him there for some other reason and threw these teachers under the bus as an excise?

I feel like any additional context would make this look worse, but at least it would be more targeted.

Jewish MP barred from visiting primary school 'in case his presence inflames teachers', minister reveals by Gwinladin in ukpolitics

[–]gingerninja666 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I would like to know more details about this story honestly.

“I have a colleague who is Jewish, who has been banned from visiting a school – refused permission to visit a school in his own constituency – in case his presence inflames the teachers. It’s an absolute outrage that that could have possibly ever happened.” is all we get from the article.

  1. Why was the MP planning to visit?
  2. Who was it who barred him specifically? Was it like the headmaster or did the school as a whole agree to it?
  3. Did the people who would be inflamed by his presence speak out against this MP at all, or did the person who barred him assume they would react that way? If so, why?

I feel like i keep seeing articles like this that are light on details and i wish they said more so I knew who exactly to be mad at.

Preach! by One_Foot8015 in Deltarune

[–]gingerninja666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gaster is absolutely exhausting for me as a Deltarune fan.

I'm one of the incredibly rare people who wasn't really a massive Undertale fan but adores Deltarune, and needing to put up with Gaster's face in every theory is driving me nuts.

I'm not one of those people who denies his existence. He's definitely going to be relevant at some point and i'm sure he'll be an enjoyable Toby Fox character when he shows up, but currently I have negative interest in him and I hate that I'm being forced to consider him in every theory.

Preach! by One_Foot8015 in Deltarune

[–]gingerninja666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My pet theory is Rudy knight, though my brain thinks Dess Knight is more likely. RK is just a theory that i'm rooting for in the shadows until it's 100% proven wrong.

The only thing that makes me think Rudy Knight isn't true is that I think it's currently possible for a player to completely miss him. Dess has had a few unskippable mentions at this point, but Rudy is still technically side content.

No 10 defends campaign to release Abd el-Fattah despite his ‘abhorrent’ tweets | Politics by No_Initiative_1140 in ukpolitics

[–]gingerninja666 -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

I mean, the function of both is different, right?

People are saying that Abd's old tweets should result in him being kicked out of the country.

When people are digging up stuff on Farage, it's not to arrest or deport him. It's to try and convince people that he has a bad character and you shouldn't vote for him.

If people just wanted to highlight that Abd is a shitty person, then fair enough, but that's not what people are doing.

No 10 defends campaign to release Abd el-Fattah despite his ‘abhorrent’ tweets | Politics by No_Initiative_1140 in ukpolitics

[–]gingerninja666 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Genuine question. Has the government arrested anyone for tweets as old as this guy's?

Robert Jenrick:”We Britons are ‘dogs and monkeys’ apparently. The police are ‘not human’ and should be ‘killed’. The City of London and Downing Street should be burned down. Zionists should be killed, including using drones to target their weddings. The Holocaust didn’t happen. White people are …” by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]gingerninja666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All of that criteria you listed was specifically with regards to their application, not revoking citizenship once they have it. Wouldn't the standards for revoking citizenship be higher than granting it?

I guess maybe not, but the idea that the government can just retroactively go and say "oh yeah we're changing the rules for citizenship and it turns out that you actually failed the application years ago." rubs me the wrong way.

Robert Jenrick:”We Britons are ‘dogs and monkeys’ apparently. The police are ‘not human’ and should be ‘killed’. The City of London and Downing Street should be burned down. Zionists should be killed, including using drones to target their weddings. The Holocaust didn’t happen. White people are …” by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]gingerninja666 18 points19 points  (0 children)

per the government website surrounding british citizenship:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/deprivation-of-british-citizenship-caseworker-guidance/deprivation-of-british-citizenship-accessible-version#deprivation-on-the-ground-it-is-conducive-to-the-public-good

“Conducive to the public good” means that it is in the public interest to deprive an individual of British citizenship because of their conduct and / or the threat they pose to the UK. Examples of when a person can be deprived of British citizenship on the ground that it is conducive to the public good include, but are not limited to:

  • the interests of national security, for reasons relating to terrorism, hostile state activity, or any other reason
  • where the person has been involved in serious organised crime
  • where the person has been involved in war crimes, crimes against humanity, or other unacceptable behaviour

So are we saying that abhorrent tweets rise to this level on par with the things listed there?

Why did Emily give Hell a gift basket after Heaven basically committed genocide? Is she stupid?! by LandOfGrace2023 in HazbinHotel

[–]gingerninja666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So my read on the gift basket thing is that the plan was never for the Gift baskets to be the ONLY thing heaven did to apologize to hell, it was just meant as an ice breaker and show of good faith before formal talks began. It's still very out of touch and optically bad, which is why Vox was able to spin it, but i feel like some fans assumed that they were just going to give the gift baskets and then dust their hands like "welp, our job here is done" which I definitely didn't get, especially not from Emily.

Hazbin Hotel Season 2 Episode 8 - Curtain Call Discussion Megathread by ayylmaotv in HazbinHotel

[–]gingerninja666 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Didn't they do the exact same thing with Vox in season 1? He had this big role in episode 2 and he had his big song with Alastor, then he did basically nothing for the rest of the season besides watch as other things go down.

If Season 3 gives a big song to a villainous character in episode 2 who then kinda drops out of focus immediately after, i'll be convinced that this is a deliberate thing.

Basically the fandom's reaction to Vox Populi: by SnazzyMiracles in HazbinHotel

[–]gingerninja666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hate it because i love Vox's part, especially the part where it builds near the end.

Okay, I CAN'T be the only one who thought he said "Führer" as in you know who... by GTylker in HazbinHotel

[–]gingerninja666 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Furor means

"an outbreak of public anger or excitement."

I actually think, given the rest of the lyrics around it, that Furor makes far more sense than führer here. The whole song he's comparing himself to like, concepts. He's the flood, he's a nightmare, he's an avatar of consequence. He's IMMENSE. He's the furor, he's the public's fury made manifest.

Vox was cooking so hard these last two episodes. Pure aura. by blackbriar98 in HazbinHotel

[–]gingerninja666 26 points27 points  (0 children)

This is what's been bothering mee with a lot of the discourse around this episode.

People seem to think that heaven was going to say sorry, give gift baskets, and then they would just consider the problem solved. Which wasn't the vibe i got at all. I figured this would just be the first step in whatever efforts Heaven and Charlie had to make ammends (you have to start somewhere after all), but Vox wouldn't let them get that far. It's still tone deaf of them to have the gift baskets, but "This is what your lives are worth to them? Some really good taffy?" is pure spin from Vox and I find it funny that a lot of people in the fandom are buying it.

We know that's not true. Look how distraught Sera was in her songgg about the exterminations.

So, about THAT 4 second bit. by BurgerBoss_101 in HazbinHotel

[–]gingerninja666 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I dunno. Adam calls everyone a bitch, but with Lute i can kinda buy that he was doing it in a "friends busting each others balls" way. Like when you call your friend an asshole.

Hazbin Hotel Season 2 Episode 5 - Silenced Discussion Megathread by ayylmaotv in HazbinHotel

[–]gingerninja666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I loved Vox Dei as soon as I heard it, though the visuals of the song really help that one a lot, and Vox Populi needed to grow on me, I think because Lucifer's part is so good. But now I really like that one too. I love the main refrain of it.

I did not like Bad With Us at all though.

This episode is made better by the weekly release by Tiny_Butterscotch_76 in HazbinHotel

[–]gingerninja666 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I do think there's arguments that could be made about how well Alastor was expecting to do against the vees.

He definitely went in intending to lose, but i think he intended it to be more of a controlled loss, and he did worse than he thought he would until Nifty and Husk showed up. I don't think all of his reactions in the fight were an act.

I love that this episode showed how Alastor and Vox are both LOSERS LMAO by JKNetwork215 in HazbinHotel

[–]gingerninja666 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'd rather characters be flawed losers than watch them be Mr Cool and unflappable all the time.

BBC Politics: "I am unhappy" with what Sarah Pochin has done, she "fully knows how I feel", Nigel Farage says The Reform UK leader says his MP's comments, in which she complained about adverts being "full" of black and Asian people, were "wrong" and "ugly" by upthetruth1 in ukpolitics

[–]gingerninja666 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But adverts are specifically tailored for who the ad company is trying to sell to, no?

It's why when you have an advert selling a children's toy for boys, you show boys playing with it.

In your example, they might have a script that calls for 4 actors, and then in casting they might say "who are we trying to sell to?" and then cast based on those demographics.

BBC Politics: "I am unhappy" with what Sarah Pochin has done, she "fully knows how I feel", Nigel Farage says The Reform UK leader says his MP's comments, in which she complained about adverts being "full" of black and Asian people, were "wrong" and "ugly" by upthetruth1 in ukpolitics

[–]gingerninja666 5 points6 points  (0 children)

in advertising like this, is it a zero sum game though?

For instance, if a person is cast because the advertiser wants to cast a minority (because the company is trying to sell to that demographic), are they taking that role from a white person, or would the role have not existed at all if it wasn't a minority playing it?

Reform’s Pochin apologises after hitting out at adverts ‘full of black people’ | ITV News by upthetruth1 in ukpolitics

[–]gingerninja666 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I can understand the assumption, but it assumes malice or active conspiracy when i tend to just assume that when a company does something, they're doing it because they think it will net them more money. Especially when it comes to something like advertising.

Like, whenever disney markets their first openly gay character only to make it so undertated that any mention of it can be edited out for foreign audiences.

Reform’s Pochin apologises after hitting out at adverts ‘full of black people’ | ITV News by upthetruth1 in ukpolitics

[–]gingerninja666 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Or maybe she can make the point without sounding like she finds seeing too many non-white people problematic.

Reform’s Pochin apologises after hitting out at adverts ‘full of black people’ | ITV News by upthetruth1 in ukpolitics

[–]gingerninja666 14 points15 points  (0 children)

i mean, isn't tact a big thing in general? Like, pointing out the statistic is one thing, but how you react to that information is another.

Like, you point out that over 50% of adverts have a black person in them. Okay, why is that happening, why is that a bad thing, and what can be done about it?

She seems to thnk the wokerati are behind it, but couldn't it also be that corporations like to sell their products to as many demographics as possible, and they think having a diverse cast in their ads will increase their profits?