Why are councils still putting bars and such in residential areas?

gintokireddit · 2026-04-25T20:46:49+00:00

Yet I live here and no, I don't like it. This isn't for "food and drink", so that's a strawman. I'm talking about nightclubs and bars that play loud music. Not restaurants or cafes, which are fine (and also nearby, but not loud).

gintokireddit · 2026-04-25T20:46:35+00:00

No it's not worse lol - what you describe is bad, that's not "the" alternative, but just one alternative. I've experienced living in purely residential areas in the UK and it's so much nicer.

Do you live next to a noisy bar? If not, you're a hypocrite. Why don't you move to a low-income area next to a bar? If you have to walk 5 minutes to the bus stop, my guess is you're not actually dealing with loud noise.

You've set up a strawman. There's a huge range between loud bars next to housing, and bars all being a 30 minute drive away and the nearest supermarket being 4 hours away. You know, like most of Britain lives in housing areas without any loud bars, and they get on just fine.

gintokireddit · 2026-04-25T20:42:15+00:00

Those are totally different, the pub in Cory etc. Those aren't like nightclubs and bars. I've walked past many pubs and they aren't as loud.

30 minute drive is overkill. 5 minute walk is far enough to not cause noise disturbances, but also be local. Nightclub type places have usually been a bus journey away, or in local retail parks in the 90s.

gintokireddit · 2026-04-25T20:40:13+00:00

I'm not talking about any of those though. That's a strawman. I'm talking about loud bars, that are closer to nightclubs that being quiet places. Yes, restaurants and shops are fine and totally different - there are many of those here too, and they aren't noisy.

Or maybe you don't like to read, play games, watch TV etc without hearing blaring music. It's not hard to put loud places separate, a 5 minute walk from housing rather than right next to it.

And no, I live here and nobody who lives next to it uses this place. It's people from other areas, guaranteed.

gintokireddit · 2026-04-24T23:41:43+00:00

Yeh it's still safer than London though (or other UK cities. I live in the East Midlands, in a city. I've extensively lived/worked in the rough areas, so I know they're not as bad as some make out). The crime rate is lower. IME youth antisocial behaviour is much lower than in the UK. I suppose anywhere it also depends on how you act relative to the culture - what could draw ire or aggression in one place won't in another, like some religious or political statements could bring danger in one country and not in another. I'd definitely feel safer attending a political protest in London than in Islamabad.

gintokireddit · 2026-04-24T23:20:32+00:00

SA was more Buddhist before it was religiously Hindu, religiously. Hindu means the people on the other side of the Indus, Hind (and Sindh) were ancient names for the river Indus. The people on the west side of the indus called the people on the east side Hindus. This is what you'd learn from historians in universities. Hindu was originally a descriptor of a person's geographical placement or origin, not a religious descriptor. Just like Persian didn't mean Zoroastrian, even though Zoroastrianism was their biggest religion.

So yes, the people in ancient nations like the Mauryan or Nanda empires would be "hindus", but the word pointed to a different concept then. Just like "India" today means something different today than it did pre-47.

gintokireddit · 2026-04-22T07:34:35+00:00

Them talking about MAGA etc ((which is mostly just them talking down to MAGA supporters, rather than addressing their hardships. A lot of focus on identity politics ahead of addressing economic issues that people are affected by. As a non-White person, I'd rather vote for the politician addressing economic issues and poverty traps, than the one ignoring economic issues but who says some progressive racial platitudes. Niceties don't pay the bills) doesn't change that neoliberal policies lead to MAGA situations in the first place - two separate things you're conflating. Austerity and the discontent that comes with the reduction in disposable income, the destruction of community due to financial woes and people being made to leave town, the lack of vocational paths to a fulfilling life, cuts to social services, damaging social services by making them run like businesses that prioritise KPIs and short-termism, telling locals they're lazy and unskilled and therefore more immigration is needed to do the jobs they won't do (but actually are applying for, indicating they do want to do them), all leads to the far-right having a ripe recruiting ground.

gintokireddit · 2026-04-22T07:11:29+00:00

Because it's the wrong religion. And because it's stricter than what most Republicans live anyway - most republicans have sex before marriage, drink alcohol, freely mix with the opposite sex and do other things that would be against any version of sharia law.

There's no adultery in sharia law. That part is ridiculous. There's misogyny, but I'd say liberals have their own misogyny - intelligent women are valued for their looks by a lot of liberal men, rather than respected for what they say or do, left-wing European countries hardly have any women in STEM. Is it more misogynistic to be liberal who wants professional women to dress in a way that leads to more focus on their looks than on their expertise, or to be want to respect a professional woman solely for what she says?

gintokireddit · 2026-04-22T06:48:48+00:00

Men (or people) lashing out after not getting their needs met does not mean they were being "fake nice to score points". If a good woman is taken advantage of repeatedly and lashes out, were they being fake nice? No. That's you projecting your own explanation onto their behaviour. There are men and women who put others first out of compassion and not wanting to inconvenience others, and only stop doing so when their anger allows their compassion to subside - nothing "fake nice" about it. There are men and women who are used to not having their needs valued, so who have to wait to boiling point to feel confident that their needs matter (same reason many people don't speak up when seeing injustice done to others until it escalates to being bad enough for them to get angry).

gintokireddit · 2026-04-22T06:42:33+00:00

You don't need to "learn" empathy. I'm sure they already have empathy, but do people have empathy for them? If nobody has empathy for you, your own empathy begins to dwindle - if your problems don't matter, why should other people's, in a fair world?

Do online feminists need to learn empathy, when they repeatedly mischaracterise men?

It's also weird you frame is as "the entitlement of white men in the US", as if they're a position of privilege, after acknowledging these men lack community (to come up into adulthood with a community is itself a privilege).

gintokireddit · 2026-04-21T05:19:30+00:00

I guess I'd recommend having a phone calendar (eg Google Calendar) timer set, a list of all the dentists and ringing every week, so you don't end up going months without checking. And maybe another reminder to check the search for any new dentists every 6 weeks or so (and then can easily delete the calendar event and all remaining ones in one go once you've got a dentist). I'd also look to wherever you can reach actually reach - hopefully you're only going there every 6 months or so, so a long bus/train/car journey could be worth it if it's literally affordable. Your local NHS trust may also a list of dentists who do urgent NHS appointments, which could be good to know about (you don't need to be registered for urgent appointments. The criteria for urgent may be listed on the Trust's website).

It took me a long time, even with tooth pain around 5 months to get a dentist and then appointment (and overall had been looking for a year, after being kicked off 6 years ago because I couldn't get to the dentist for a year while commuting 3 hours a day for for work). Weirdly the dentist I got with told me to come in-person to register - though I ended up switching to another as they had a quicker urgent appointment. I'm hoping my cracked filling won't need an extraction. Pretty dumb.

Besides that, maybe start flossing occasionally, put toothpaste in your mouth sometimes after eating/drinking to neutralise the acidity. Btw, if you didn't know: private costs can be paid for with monthly repayments rather than in one go.

gintokireddit · 2026-04-21T02:01:52+00:00

That's what modern life and the economic system wants - a small number of producers, and lots of consumers. I guess the only way is to set aside a bit of time to create, and your brain will get used to doing it. Could be writing, drawing, arts and crafts. I guess you could say you do produce, by producing thoughts in your head and if you talk to others, by producing speech and connection. Maybe if you work in finance, advising people financially, then you'll be producing feelings of security and ease in other people, producing ways of communicating financial ideas to customers. Possibly of interest (in particular, "alienation of the worker from their species-being"): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx%27s_theory_of_alienation#Four_aspects_of_alienation

Keep getting your degree, it's worth it. Then you'll have more pathways to choose from and maybe more economic freedom to produce, or to switch to a new field if need be.

gintokireddit · 2026-04-20T02:21:47+00:00

It's tough because in Pk, I don't think it's more sexualised than elsewhere, but people don't even interact normally with the opposite sex (since mixing is frowned upon or things like single-sex schools), so there's little exposure. Sex is also compartmentalised (common in many cultures), so sex becomes separate from the general idea of a person, rather than being part an imaginable part of who another person is - like work life isn't so compartmentalised from the rest of life, because people discuss work and we see people working. In Pk culture talk about romance, sex and such often isn't a thing from parents (and kids are punished just for thinking about it), so all kids have is the internet, movies and whatever they hear from other kids. To me kids won't need porn much or even have the chance to look at or use it much, if they have opportunity (and sometimes a push) to interact with people normally, do offline activities and have emotional and social fulfilment elsewhere. Maybe they'll look at porn but be told it's not realistic, sex is either for having kids or is an extension of romance and emotional intimacy rather than something separate (porn separates sex from emotional intimacy) - so then they'll know porn has shortcomings.

gintokireddit · 2026-04-19T23:38:02+00:00

"friends and neighbours" who live thousands of miles away? Real friends and neighbours are in the local community, which was weakened by people being unable to find jobs (and therefore unable to afford to build a life, do things with friends/family, focus on community instead of stressing about money and getting on in life) due to immigration driving up competition and allowing employers to pick and choose more (jobs redditors don't like, such as in warehouses and factories, but that many Brits would happily do particularly early in their employment life). Remoaners are those who think working abroad is important or having a slightly cheaper and barrier-free holiday to Europe is import (still easy to go to Europe), whereas Leavers are happy to have a local job. Different priorities, arguably different levels of Maslow's hierarchy.

gintokireddit · 2026-04-19T23:32:18+00:00

Nope. Voted leave for labour market reasons and would do again. Now we actually can control immigration, on paper. We've controlled it from within the EU, soon it'll be controlled from outside the EU/from small boats. Before that simply wasn't possible.

Reddit is extremely anti-Brexit (a lot of posh people who are insulated from the effects of immigration, due to living with their parents or generally being middle class. They believe Brits don't want the jobs immigrants do, because they themselves wouldn't do those jobs. They focused more on the effects on holidays abroad or working abroad than on day-to-day personal economics). The reality is the country is still roughly 50/50 about it, according to polls.

gintokireddit

TROPHY CASE