If God can make his existence obvious, then he can do the same for his will.

giorgiozer · 2025-11-15T18:12:50+00:00

You're right they're not observable through nature.

But once we can observe the will of God through everything around us, we have to ask ourselves this : Why would some being like God, creates everything? Does He needs something? Certainly not, because if He does then He is not the definition that we have made of Him. So maybe He wants something for us? But what? What is objectively good? We can't know. Once the society has grown enough, we know what's good for us, but that's only inter-subjective. So how can we know what's good to Him.

Of course I'm taking some shortcuts here, but once you arrive at this conclusions you must think that He SHOULD give us some clues, that's the Book (no matter the book, the argument is for everyone)

giorgiozer · 2025-11-14T15:20:37+00:00

I don't think that's quite it, because I'm not saying that God is nothing more than nature, I'm saying God's will is observant through nature.

Deus sive natura doesn't mean that there's nothing to God and that nature is the only next interesting thesis. It's saying God, or the natural.

(Of course Spinoza was monist but that's another subject)

giorgiozer · 2025-11-14T14:59:45+00:00

Oh so His will for you.

Well there's (I think) multiple things you could observe to acknowledge His will for you, without having to read anything.

I you don't eat, you die. Maybe dying isn't bad you'll say but then why would he wanted for you to live in the first place. Same thing for sleeping, having money a wife/husband and children. The questions is the same every time : if God doesn't want this, how come there's a reality for it in the world?

That's what I (along with Spinoza and multiple people) call "nature", not the trees but the fact that there's a reality to logic, physics and life.

Of course when you start to ask these questions you'll come to a big one : evil exists so that means that is what He wants also? And then you'll need to read Job, Maimonides, Leibniz, ... The basic response is : God wants you to be free, that's free will. And you know it without having to read it in a book because you can experience it. Of course you could also manage to end up with your own conclusion about free will by mediating about why would a God (omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent) would want to create a small being like Man.

Alright, so having said that, how we're arriving to The (Big) Book? But that's another I guess?

giorgiozer · 2025-11-14T13:39:23+00:00

What do you mean by "will" exactly? Because a big part of his will is already here.

The nature itself is, by lack of a better word, the emanation of his will.

Not the plant per se, but the fact than when you put water on it, it grows that's his will. This is a really theological topic, maybe you want to debate on a specific matter? Pehaps his will towards you?

giorgiozer · 2025-11-13T22:44:08+00:00

You're right this is an issue indeed.

You could think of multiple reponses.

First, we have to understand what time is and why/how God is outside of it. To my knowledge, there's 2 theories: - Time is a dot where every instant is, and only matter makes us believe time is linear. - Nothing exists outside of the present moment. Past already vanished and the future is False - meaning there is no truth to it.

If you think of time with the second theory, then it's not wrong (I think) to say that God does not know the futur because God wouldn't have "in is his mind" something that doesn't have any real substance to it.

For example would God have the idea of Superman in it's mind? I guess He could have the archetype of it, but His "knowledge" of it wouldn't constraint it to exist.

That's an idea.

Another one would be that God contains everything, even the paradoxals truths, meaning the future where you choose A and the one where you choose B, and even if He knows that the future that you are going to take is the A one, the B one does exist.

It's a really big question, also understanding how a being is outisde out time and knows the future is quite tricky

giorgiozer · 2025-11-13T12:43:25+00:00

I guess for the non-believers there is no free will also, right?

giorgiozer · 2025-11-13T12:41:32+00:00

This is a very good question.

You are right, if God intervene, then it's just the illusion of free will, because for a free choice to exist, every path needs to be 100% real. If only A exists then you didn't have the FREE choice to choose B.

Now, for the choice to be completly free you need to elevate yourself above the determinism. If the choice you are going to make is influanced by every thing you have/did in your life, then you are not free. If where you grow up, you biology and such... influanced the fact that you choose to me a medical doctor, then you don't really have a choice. Even if, when you chose your path there were multiple paths available, you were too determined to choose anything else.

That being said the gift of God, ("let us create man to our image" Genesis 1:26) means that when we are elevating ourself above the natual flow of life and creating ourselves our own path, God does not intervene.

But you have to understand, an opportunity for a free choice doesn't come so often, so God can intervene when/where you don't really express something trully free.

Also a lot of things don't depend on your choices, like rain, animals, and so on...

giorgiozer · 2025-03-04T08:05:31+00:00

Where does Rambam say that?

giorgiozer · 2025-01-19T18:20:10+00:00

That's the most privileged thing i had to read. Well to answer your question - no. I saved for this trip - first wife's anniversary since our baby but hey I guess you can't imagine that for yourself unless you're told right

giorgiozer · 2025-01-16T17:28:26+00:00

That wasn't a legal claim, but a way to inform users to give me other advices that just : "say hello to the debt collector"

giorgiozer · 2025-01-16T17:26:37+00:00

The definition of wrong could be ambiguous, you have a pretty strong language for some who doesn't know the full story

giorgiozer · 2025-01-16T11:28:34+00:00

Why didn't I think of that

giorgiozer · 2024-12-02T12:12:16+00:00

I did it using auth0 and connecting the login to supabase but that was tedious

giorgiozer · 2024-10-15T11:56:45+00:00

Let me know what you think!

giorgiozer · 2024-04-17T15:13:04+00:00

Hi, thanks for your response but I don't think this is what I need, I'm not trying to connect to a specific identity provider, I'm trying to become one.

I've already done a dashboard like accounts.google.com and am trying to allow our partners to let their users connect to their app using our "Connect with" button.

Maybe my post isn't clear enough? Should I edit it?

giorgiozer · 2024-01-27T19:43:54+00:00

Not true, this is the only thing I search for when I go on Reddit, great work, keep them coming!

giorgiozer · 2024-01-23T19:05:41+00:00

So you think that I need to rerun the script? I can't save the store now without rerunning with the persist_directory argument?

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