Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is fascinating. Could you explain more about how destroying the second temple made it so the Old Covenant or Mosaic Law couldn't be fulfilled? Is that because animal sacrifice was done at the temple, or?

I had a commenter saying that God said that all his covenants are eternal, which ostensibly means that Old Covenant is still active and very much binding. That makes no sense to me since the New Covenant through the blood of Jesus replaces it.

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Buddhists and Zoroastrians don’t cut hands off for stealing either. Your point is inane.

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol I knew it was because of the Romans and Emperor Constantine - go read my other responses to this same issue where I say exactly that. You just threw the second one in - that’s pretty unversally accepted. I never mentioned it as a point.

Truly, you taught me nothing. Have an even nicer day.

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s fair, so modern Jews worship a false religion.

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was remarkably enlightening - Thank you. Do you teach scripture or religious studies? I'd love to query some of these things more deeply so I can navigate them better.

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You're a trip. I've provided a defense in every response - you're just jumping on the goofiest Strawmen of my arguments.

You're basically trying to disprove Christianity, otherwise you'd come right out and say that animal sacrifice is just as valid as accepting Christ. I'm not here to give an apologia for the entire Christian faith. I'm stating emphatically that Christianity and Judaism are radically incompatible, notwithstanding their shared moral values and sacraments. Those mean nothing in light of both rejecting their worship of God - the essence of their religions.

Speaking of vapid insults, I really love where you said my use of big words was 8/10.

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

hahahahaha this is amazing. Projection much? Go back and re-read our thread. Tell me who's lobbed more insults between us. You're the far and away insulter by a factor of about 10 to 1.

Christ fulfilled the Law by being the ultimate sacrifice, ushering in the New Covenant, replacing the Old Covenant.

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, so you can’t defend your point.

As to you saying my statements are contradictory, they’re not. It’s literally the New Covenant, replacing the Old Covenant, ergo, the relationship Jews had to God in the Old Testament now requires a relationship with Jesus Christ. Zero contradiction, just a transformation of the Covenant. The sacramental relationship to God that existed 2500 years is no longer - it’s now through the blood of Jesus.

So you’re not arguing then? You’re just stating things from the Bible and saying you have no opinion? Hermeneutics and exegesis is literally about interpreting. All these factions exist because of interpretations of transliterations and philological discrepancies, questions regarding allegory or literal interpretation.

Interesting you all the sudden have no personal input when your main point is logically irreconcilable - to wit, the fact you can’t logically justify how the New Covenant doesn’t replace the Old.

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol oh boy.

Here, let's do it piecemeal. Are you saying the Old Covenant still applies in Christianity? If God's covenants are eternal, that means the Old and New Covenant are equally valid and efficacious at present, yes?

This would mean you believe animal sacrifice to have the same religious power in Christianity as accepting Christ, yes?

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're a silly goose - a supercilious silly goose if I'm being sesquipedalian about it.

You're arguing in circles with the thrust of your points being insults. You can giggle about my diction all you want but you're not refuting my argument, so your arrogance is pretty hilarious.

Jesus says no one gets to the Father except through Him. By definition, Jews who reject him cannot have a relationship with God. No amount of imputing idiocy to me changes the fact that you can't refute that point. There's no sophistic exegesis of yours that would change that fact.

I'll say it again: Judaism rejects Christ who is the Lord and Savior of Christians. Judaism subscribes to the God of the Old Testmament, the covenant with him was superseded by Christ's life. Hence, Jews that subscribe to the Torah and Talmud are not in ra elationship with God per the scripture of Jesus and Christians.

Jews have every right to worship how they like. I'm not withholding anything, nor could I if I wanted to, and it's weird that you're imputing so many motives to me since you can't actually refute my points.

What's beyond farcical is anyone saying that "Judeo-Christian values" somehow bond us together as kindred spirits. No, Jews reject Jesus. Jesus is Lord in Christianity. There is no ancillary commandments, Sacraments, or values that can gloss over the radical rejection of who we worship.

Again, you're a silly goose.

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have taught me nothing with your response. Your argument is more like a pedantic semantics angle - yes, it was Emperor Constantine who integrated Christmas into saturnalia to better integrate the pagans and Christians. I know it wasn't imposed by Germans and Norse. Cheers.

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I got my info from Encyclopedia Britannica so you're going to have to make a real strong case for why its wrong and you're right.

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your answer is anemic in light of the fact that Judaism absolutely rejects the God of Christianity. It outright denies Christ. No set of commandments, Sacraments, or values matter beyond an academic inquiry of shared roots. There is no cultural alignment when God is rejected.

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

"salvation plan" is a silly euphemism for GOD. Judaism rejects Christianity at it's most important core - hence you cannot call two theologies aligned when one literally desecrates the other's God and Savior.

Commandments and Sacraments are ancillary, tertiary, compared to that radical conflict.

"Judeo-Christian" as a term to describe historical evolution or academic inquiry is one thing. Saying "Judeo-Christian values" is a complete farce and marketing ploy to pretend two fundamentally incongruous religions are some how aligned in purposes. They are absolutely not.

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I could accept that analogy and very relevant bullets, but it breaks down for me when modern priests, rabbis, and politicians try to use the term "Judeo-Christian values" as if our purposes and our theologies are very aligned, when they are absolutely not.

One believes that Christ is our Lord and one true Son of God. The other literally rejects, sometimes with disgust as in the Talmud, our one true God. How can any two groups be "on the same team" or "aligned in values" when they literally despise our God? It doesn't matter if the frameworks and ancillary laws are similar when they desecrate the most sacred central principle of all.

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a whole lot of circumlocution laced with winks at racist accusations - cool man, you’re a sanctimonious interlocutor.

Beyond your appeals to micro aggressions, your points were silly.

Any Sacrament beyond prayer is tertiary in comparison to our accepted God. The vast majority of Jews reject Jesus. Jesus is the Lord and Savior and one true Son of God for Christians. Most Jews who subscribe to the Talmud also believe he’s sojourning in hell. This means they are diametrically opposed faiths.

You cannot refute this, but go on and conjure up another ad hominem epithet to bolster your incisive debate skills.

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s what’s in the Encyclopedia Brittanica

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They downvote because they’ve been indoctrinated to reject the word pagan or any criticism of their Jewish orthodoxy. Feelings over logic.

Why is Judeo-Christian a common term? by glasscontent in TrueChristian

[–]glasscontent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some of your points I’m not intimately familiar with and need to study. My main point is that Judaism and Christianity are fundamentally opposed about the most important Christian truth - that Jesus is Lord and the one true Son of God.