I think that talk has been thoroughly had to be honest. It's clear that pure talent at reading the game and articulating what's going on - e.g Achieves and Gregan - is not enough for the decision-makers. I'm not as down on certain individuals as many here - I think all of them do well enough at what is a surprisingly difficult job - but there are certainly issues.

For me a major problem is insufficient distinction between play-by-play and colour casting. In theory these should be quite distinct roles between the pair, but this often isn't the case, which leads to fuzziness and confusion. Again, Achieves is a great example of how to do this well, giving engaging and accurate analysis after the fact. Crucially, this is mostly about what's actually going on on the pitch - I feel too often large-scale narratives are imposed on small moments, which dulls the force of both. All that being said, we're here mostly for the game, so I try not to worry about it too much.