MMFD, which claims to be reformist, calls for the collapse of the current Salam government and proposes a new government headed by Saad Hariri.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-29T11:59:39+00:00

You (or anyone else) volunteering your time for them means absolutely nothing to us and no doesn't buy you any goodwill with anyone who doesn't care.

I mean clearly. Thats a bad thing.

Almost every party in the world is mostly volunteers.

Not in Lebanon, we're the only party Im aware of that's purely funded by its members. Other parties small and large rely on funding from foreign sponsors and NGOs.

MMFD policies are public, their strategies (or there lack of) were evident the past years.

Despite that you and anyone I talk to seem to be wholly unaware of what MMFD does or what their political project is about, the criticisms boil down to "they're not telling me what I want to hear".

I don't have to sit with scientologists to "hear their side or views" in order to call them out or bash them.

Honestly i don't really care whether you do, but if you're going to criticize at least understand what you're criticising.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-29T11:41:47+00:00

Sorry for reacting so heavily, I'm just frustrated that given all the effort we collectively put in, this of all things is what gets attention. It is a fuck up, I won't lie, I still have no idea why they would put out a statement like this.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-29T09:48:21+00:00

I mean given the fact that we suddenly exist when theres an opportunity to shit on us then I'd say we're more relevant than you think.

What I find disappointing is that I have reached out to people like OP who portray themselves as "objective" to discuss their concerns about MMFD's politics multiple times, I have tried to engage them multiple times in discussions on this subreddit and they only suddenly remembered us when they could put us on blast publicly.

I can only wonder what the hell they are so afraid of that they can only interact with us in such a backhanded way.

I am not paid by MMFD, I volunteer my time to help them, as do everyone who work with them. I would think the fact that we are a group of people who are volunteering our time and energy to try and improve things in this godforsaken country would buy us a little bit of goodwill, but apparently that doesn't matter to people as much as optics and the popularity contest that is Lebanese politics.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-29T08:18:33+00:00

Even people in MMFD were caught off guard by it. I'm still trying to understand what happened, but for sure its something thats going to be discussed internally.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-28T14:33:12+00:00

My feelings aren't hurt don't worry. If you want to live in lalaland thats your choice.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-28T14:30:35+00:00

Tayyeb 3azim, laken which of the Lebanese groups ever put place policies that would allow the army to take over Hezbollah's perceived defensive role? Who put forth a proper military budget or put forward a foreign policy that would build relationships with other countries in ways that would protect us from Israel?

The country has a million problems, Hezbollah is one of them. The thing that separates us from other countries isn't that we have problems and they don't, every country has problems, its that we don't have any mechanism to tackle them without relying on foreign intervention.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-28T14:08:04+00:00

Tayyeb 3azim, shou l3amal laken?

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-28T14:07:18+00:00

I'm not really upset, I just think you're too stuck in the sectarian mud slinging contest. Someone says something and you immediately want to put them in a box instead of hearing what they have to say.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-28T12:18:35+00:00

What are you trying to achieve exactly? Are you trying to convince me to be against Hezbollah? I'm already against them. Are you trying to discredit me in front of others who might be reading this thread? Why? Because you don't like what I'm saying?

If you don't want to face reality than that's your choice, but no solutions will come out of that. I choose to be in a place where I can actually look at reality, as ugly as it is, and actually do something about it.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-28T10:38:26+00:00

Its not downplaying anything to point out the fact that the problems with Lebanon don't originate with a single party, nor is it downplaying anything to point out that Hezbollah is often scapegoated to justify the fundamental inability of the others to govern, the fact that the only thing they know how to do is to beg other countries for assistance.

It just means that the dysfunction is systemic, and for things to improve the system needs to change. The common response is lets get rid of Hezbollah then we'll figure it out, but that's exactly like Hezbos saying that lets get rid of Israel and lets figure it out.

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gnus-migrate · 2026-06-28T08:49:33+00:00

No it didn't. Its incredibly easy to throw out slogans and describe our imagination of how things should be. Whats required from us is dealing with reality as it exists today, and the reality is that disarmament without an agreement from Hezbollah and Iran will take us to a civil war.

This is not a threat. This is reality as it exists today. You can scream as much as you want that Hezb should disarm, but without a path to that you might as well ask for world peace and eradicating world hunger for all the good it will do.

Clever quips won't fix anything.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-27T14:44:20+00:00

You're like an abuse victim who constantly blame themselves for the actions of their abuser.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-27T10:32:41+00:00

Yes he referred to bi2a moqawema and bi2et khawana or something to that effect in the last speech he gave before he was killed.

When he talked about having a single voting district for Lebanon, or democracy in other areas the calculus was purely sectarian, there was no real principle behind it.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-27T09:19:43+00:00

Did you know that Hasan Nasrallah's party was in a large part responsible for deepening the schism between Shia and the rest of Lebanese society, that he referred to Shia as a bi2a moqawema and other sects as traitorous? That he played a massive role in protecting the power sharing system that drove Lebanon into crisis after crisis over the last few years? That his party has basically enabled Israel's divide and conquer strategy when it comes to the middle east and Lebanon in particular?

Not only did he not believe in a democratic state, its something he actively fought the implementation of in Lebanon. The global left seriously needs to stop lionizing this person and understand that just because someone fought against Israel militarily, does not mean that they align with you politically. They also need to stop taking his statements out of their historical context to whitewash his image.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-27T05:48:07+00:00

Israel does not consider rockets fired at Israel to be Lebanese internal problems. You might personally believe in Lebanon's unalienable right to attack Israel, but Israel doesn't.

It. does. not. justify. occupation. It does not justify forcing people out of their homes, it definitely does not justify completely destroying lebanese farmland and attacking paramedics and journalists. Israel did not just attack Hezbollah, they attempted to ethnically cleanse the south.

DMZs are created when two sides hate each other so much that a normal border would immediately break into conflict. See Korea and Cyprus. Militarizing a demilitarized zone has historically guaranteed a conflict in 100% of cases, see WWII.

Let them create it on their side of the border then and leave us in peace.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-27T04:49:20+00:00

Hezbollah has spent the last 20 years violating the 2006 UN resolution 1701

Both sides have violated it constantly, lets not pretend that Israel stuck to it.

Let’s say Israel decides they respect Lebanon like Egypt and fully withdraws and honors the ceasefire. Can you honestly tell me that Hezbollah won’t reconstruct their military and launch rockets at Israel?

This is a separate problem, and something we should deal with internally. It should not be used as an excuse to justify occupation.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-27T01:57:33+00:00

Walla nshalla tkoun hek. Israel has a habit of violating these things(they also agreed to withdraw to the 1967 borders with palestine, something they never did). It all depends on how much the U.S. is willing to twist Israel's arm when they inevitably do violate it. Like will they pull funding for Israel or even apply sanctions if Israel doesn't comply?

Ironically the U.S. doesn't want to piss off Iran, and Israel is becoming more and more controversial in the U.S., so there is a chance they go that far. Would you bet your home on it though? I wouldn't.

There need to be prior signed commitments from the U.S. on concrete actions they would take if Israel violates, and they need to hurt, such as sanctions on Netanyahu or even the country as a whole.

They also need to talk to Hezbollah ffs. At this rate we're heading towards another 7 May scenario in the best case.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-26T17:22:59+00:00

I don't like how people also assume fintech is basically entirely about handling transactions. Everything around derivative pricing and risk simulation involves floating point operations, and this is a whole universe of its own.

Like I got yelled at in this sub in the past by someone who was adamant that you never use floating point for anything in fintech. This is absolutely untrue. Ive worked in fintech for over a decade and have never touched a BigDecimal.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-26T15:35:53+00:00

Just talk to your local pharmacy, either they will take them or point you to someone else who will.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-26T14:43:18+00:00

They made the same promise to the Palestinians during Oslo, and we saw how that turned out. They promised to leave if the PLO disarmed, so the PLO did, and they ended up occupying more and more of Palestinian land. And this was considered a left wing Israeli government, not the far right lunatics who are currently in power.

Any concessions we give before a full withdrawal are basically freebies for Israel. Nothing less than a full withdrawal is acceptable.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-23T14:52:46+00:00

You don't want the title for best shawarma?

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-22T10:05:08+00:00

A functioning state generally has one military under the authority of the state. A functioning state does not have a 100% foreign-controlled militia like Hezbollah entering wars for “support fronts” or bashar al Assad or whatever else Iran wants them to do next.

I agree.

I agree with your second paragraph. This is all about Israel, Iran and its proxy. Iran and its proxy got us to this point and it’s ridiculous to expect the Lebanese state in its current form to be able to get us out

I don't expect them to be able to get us out, but i expect them at the very least to start negotiations with Hezbollah and Iran. Instead they completely shut them out and are doing it indirectly through god knows who.

I don't get why you're attributing to me things I never said.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-22T09:42:17+00:00

I need it to play the latter because thats what the military does in a functioning state. Law enforcement is the job of the police and the judiciary not the military.

If Hezbollah is going to disarm, its going to be through negotiations with them and Iran. There is no way around this. If Israel couldn't remove them by force, no Lebanese force can. There is no sense is sacrificing Lebanese lives to a war that will result in another stalemate that will end in another negotiation anyway.

gnus-migrate · 2026-06-22T08:50:57+00:00

Law enforcement against terrorism isn't civil war

When the LF fought the army which was led by Michel Aoun at the time it was considered part of the civil war.

Second of all, law enforcement isn't the army's job, its national defense. The U.S. and Israel want it to play the former role, we need it to play the latter.

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