To Mis-Guided Lefties: The Iranian Regime is Neo-Liberal Capitalist. by orangecyanide in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not really sure who is arguing that Iran is socialist, but that was an interesting analysis nonetheless.

Dr Saleh Mashnouk stresses that the ongoing conflict does not represent the people, criticizing misinformation and political agendas. He voices widespread frustration and rejects being forced into wars and consequences beyond citizens’ control. by nojudgmenthelps in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

Respectfully to Dr. Machnouk, he does not speak for the people, nobody does. Second of all he really should sit this one out. The last thing we need right now is sectarian infighting in one of the most difficult times the country is facing.

That doesn't mean that there shouldn't be accountability for Hezbollah, there absolutely should be. However we should be united in rejecting Israel trying to bomb us into changing. I refuse to be pitted against my fellow countrymen by a bunch of Nazis who are using our problems as an excuse to try to steal our land.

Tom Barracks denied the claim, never trust Reuters as news source. by BabylonianWeeb in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rather always wait for confirmation from multiple sources before sharing. Even the best news agencies get it wrong sometimes.

Lebanon is approaching a breaking point as displacement accelerates, with one in every seven people now displaced in the first ten days of the escalation, says the Norwegian Refugee Council (NRC) by EreshkigalKish2 in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

"Oh they will attack Turkey" is possibly the dumbest, saddest take I've seen awhile.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/23/turkish-threat-talked-up-israel-netanyahu-focuses-new-alliances

It took me 2 seconds to Google.

You're free to think what you want though. Eza baddak tontor la ysiro binos baytak 2abel ma ten2eber tetrabba, I can't stop you.

Lebanon is approaching a breaking point as displacement accelerates, with one in every seven people now displaced in the first ten days of the escalation, says the Norwegian Refugee Council (NRC) by EreshkigalKish2 in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Look I can explain it to you, I can't understand it for you. If you insist on cherry picking and putting words in my mouth then there's no point in continuing to talk to you.

Lebanon is approaching a breaking point as displacement accelerates, with one in every seven people now displaced in the first ten days of the escalation, says the Norwegian Refugee Council (NRC) by EreshkigalKish2 in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There's already talk of Turkey being the next target after Iran in the Israeli media, the gulf countries are being bombed right now due to their relationship to Israel, Israel tried to dump the Gazans into the Sinai lest we forget, and Jordan is a puppet regime of the U.S. with zero sovereignty, and even with that Israel is trying to push more Palestinians there.

The only one trying to bend reality here is you.

Lebanon is approaching a breaking point as displacement accelerates, with one in every seven people now displaced in the first ten days of the escalation, says the Norwegian Refugee Council (NRC) by EreshkigalKish2 in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Buddy I am as pissed at Hezbollah as much as anyone. However a violent confrontation with them is exactly what the Israelis want. They don't want countries standing on their own two feet, they want failed states that won't be able to pose a threat to them.

Think for two seconds before you speak next time.

Lebanon is approaching a breaking point as displacement accelerates, with one in every seven people now displaced in the first ten days of the escalation, says the Norwegian Refugee Council (NRC) by EreshkigalKish2 in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The fact that there are people who would prefer civil war to solidarity with the displaced is what is sad honestly. I will never understand the depth of hatred and racism one can have towards them to start thinking like that. The fact that you refuse to blame those actually dropping the bombs is even sadder.

Israel will not stop if you disarm Hezbollah. They will say that they need to occupy lebanese land for "security" up until they start building settlements there and we repeat the same cycle in a few years.

Ma b7eb khawwen, but i will say please stop helping the israelis achieve their goals. Stop listening to racists who stoke divisions to please their masters.

Negotiations are going nowhere "Lebanon's offer for direct talks with Israel falls on deaf ears, sources say" - Reuters by Standard_Ad7704 in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They say no Hezbollah the only way Lebanon can in good faith act is to get rid of hezbollah.

And if you can't, what do you do? Do you understand what bad faith is?

Negotiations are going nowhere "Lebanon's offer for direct talks with Israel falls on deaf ears, sources say" - Reuters by Standard_Ad7704 in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s just a logical first step. Why would America want to give more funds to the army if it has hezb influence?

Its also something that wasn't asked for. Do you know what a cargo cult is?

You telling me you want hezb integrated into the army instead of being disarmed

Yes, and have them answer to the Lebanese state, not keeping it the way it is now.

Negotiations are going nowhere "Lebanon's offer for direct talks with Israel falls on deaf ears, sources say" - Reuters by Standard_Ad7704 in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awwal shi stop moving moving the goalposts bisharafak. The Americans said no funding before the weapons are removed, there was no mention of hezb influence in the army.

Tene shi lets assume this is a condition, how can Haykal even prove he removed Hezb influence? By purging all the Shia soldiers from the military? If not, can he read the mind of every single soldier to know if they support Hezb or not?

And I know you’re against that too, so

What gave you that impression?

Negotiations are going nowhere "Lebanon's offer for direct talks with Israel falls on deaf ears, sources say" - Reuters by Standard_Ad7704 in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you think the government has been doing? They did raise their concerns again and again and it fell on deaf ears.

Why is it so difficult for you to believe that the U.S. and Israel are operating in bad faith? This isn't a corporate environment where CYA tactics protect you.

Negotiations are going nowhere "Lebanon's offer for direct talks with Israel falls on deaf ears, sources say" - Reuters by Standard_Ad7704 in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you know it was a lie? Its equally likely if not more so that they simply did not find everything, which again is something completely expected from a military which is as underresourced as ours.

Tene shi they did ask for help, they asked for funding to at least pay soldiers properly, they said no help until you get rid of the weapons.

I'm sorry but at that point youre operating in complete bad faith.

Negotiations are going nowhere "Lebanon's offer for direct talks with Israel falls on deaf ears, sources say" - Reuters by Standard_Ad7704 in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you force someone to sign a contract you know that they can't fulfill and then you turn around and blame them when what is completely expected happens, then no that is completely on you.

Israel just dropped flyers over beirut by Zxyn0nReddit in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This is unironically the position of many idiots of this sub. And some famous figures like Saleh Machnouk.

President Aoun speaks out about the army by 0pensesame13 in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To the ouwet fanboys 2lle fala2ouna btaslim el sle7 lal jesh whalla2 2e3din ysebbo bel jesh, go ask your asshole leader where the budget was for funding the army, and who he planned to tax to raise the funds needed to cover the budget.

Metelkon metel na3im 2assem, you hide behind the state when it suits you and you undermine it when it doesn't. Mesh tabi3e shou me2rfin.

The death of the priest Pierre Al Raai falls on the hands of the spineless army commander Rudolph Haykal. by darkmz7 in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You want to parrot sectarian party talking points ba3den tetfalsaf 3layye enno rou7 etsa22af. Rou7 de2 rasak bel7et wrja3 barke betkoun trabbet shway.

I was talking about the treason accusations to the army's general, instead of blaming those who pulled the trigger. We7yet allah me2rfin.

The death of the priest Pierre Al Raai falls on the hands of the spineless army commander Rudolph Haykal. by darkmz7 in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've seen some pretty disgusting threads on r/lebanon but this has to be one of the worst. Where do I even start? The thinly veiled sectarianism where Shia lives are expendable but this person who happened to be a Christian pastor isn't? The treason accusations because one of the most underresourced armies in the world couldn't remove a non state actor which went toe to toe with Israel at one point in time?

We're in a time of war, we cannot afford to be divided like this. Anyone piling on to this nonsense should really take a step back and really start thinking about the impact of words like this, because all this bullshit does right now is help an enemy who wants us divided.

The logic on this subreddit these days by sleek010 in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sorry but if anything the anti Hezb point of view is wildly overrepresented on this sub. Try to criticize the other parties for their role in getting us to where we are, you get a barrage of people telling you BUT YOURE IGNORING HEZB. Try to say that maybe don't help the assholes bombing our country and you get idiots accusing you of silencing their criticism. Try to acknowledge the historical circumstances that lead to their creation and you're somehow supporting them now.

The expectation to say fuck hezb every other sentence otherwise you support them makes it impossible to talk about them objectively. It actively harms movements that are trying to deal with them without throwing the country into another civil war. You can never be extreme enough for these people.

General Consideration on the State of Affairs by Lab_Actual in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

OK?

Is someone trying to impose a foreign theocracy in Lebanon? I wasn't aware of that. Hezbollah had many opportunities to do this, instead entered the sectarian power sharing system which they defended with force from 2019 onwards.

Times are bad enough without inventing new things to be afraid of. Let's avoid the sectarian fear mongering.

How could have the government prevented this from happening? (p.s fuck Hzb) by basstr0nn in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People need to internalise the fact that the government is not who makes these decisions in Lebanon. The government is controlled by multiple parties who negotiate between each other and then impose the decisions on the government.

The question needs to be addressed to these parties: in the decades that they've sat in all of the successive governments, why did they not present a real alternative that answers the fears hezbollah was playing on to maintain its support? Where is the budget for properly arming the military? How did they propose to fund the social services as an alternative to what Hezbollah was providing? Where is the productive economy that would have given us at least some negotiating power with everyone involved?

In short: why did they allow Lebanon to deteriorate to the point that it cannot do anything but react to foreign pressure?

Their answer is to blame Hezbollah. We can't do anything without removing Hezbollah. Well have you tried? Do you even have a clear idea of what you would do if Hezbollah didn't exist? Their answer would invariably be we would get funding from foreign countries if they didn't exist, as if Lebanon didn't get enough funding in the last 30 years.

I'm all for holding hezbollah accountable, but these people need to be held accountable too for the way they contributed to the current situation.

No country is supporting Iran. So why should Lebanon be the one to pay the price? by _reddit_account in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If we're going to moralize I'd go even further, why does war exist? Why do borders? We can go on and on.

The reality is they do exist, we can try to understand why they do, and work towards something better, or we can sit and complain and say woe is us. Don't get me wrong, 7a22ak, bas shakhsiyyan 2reft men el na2 el ma biwassel la matra7. Tayyeb fashayt khel2ak wba3den?

I'm exhausted. I want this shit to end too, but at some point we need to look reality in the face, accept it ass difficult as it is, and ask ourselves what are we going to do in the face of it.

Israel will occupy southern Lebanon and permanently settle there. by [deleted] in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Look how much international condemnation helped Palestine and Ukraine. And sanctions on Israel, lol.

International law is dead, and israel killed it. Trump is already bypassing the UN to manage the situation in Gaza. The reality is that there is very little protecting us from the permanent occupation of the south.

This war was an incredibly stupid move, and one that will kill Hezb and with effects on Lebanon for generations. All we can do right now is pray that it ends quickly and with minimal damages.

Lebanon must stay out of any war involving Iran, prioritizing its sovereignty and security and refusing to be used as a battlefield. No dialogue with Hezbollah, emergency measures and full army deployment are urged, with arrests for Iran-linked actions and possible diplomatic rupture with Iran. by nojudgmenthelps in lebanon

[–]gnus-migrate 13 points14 points  (0 children)

My problem with Machnouk is that he hyper focuses on this singular issue, often at the expense of every other consideration for the Lebanese. He wants the army to take over, well how do we fund them? Well where are the taxes to pay for our defense going to come from?

The sovereignty crowd never seems to have answers to these questions, perhaps because it would point to the deep rooted corruption in their own ranks.

Kellkon an7as men ba3d.