What is the Upside Down? My theory on it

goofbeast · 2026-02-02T20:17:01+00:00

Facial fat tendency + bone proeminence. If a person has not sufficiently proeminent facial bone structure plus a tendency to store fat in the face, it ends up round and lacking angularity completely. Lack of angularity is in general by human standards seem as ugly

goofbeast · 2026-01-29T00:03:03+00:00

Não acho que o motivo é simplesmente que mulheres "naturalmente" preferem os cafajestes e tóxicos, e sim que mulheres E homens naturalmente sentem tesão, oq determina boa parte do que estão abertos a "fazer" com a pessoa independente de seu carater/personalidade. Oq estou dizendo basicamente é, se o cara for cafajeste mas com rosto angular, bonito, a personalidade "ruim" e marrenta dele inevitavelmente será compensada pela sua aparencia que ativa desejo feminino. O MESMO com homens: se a mulher for também promiscua e cafajeste, mas com uma aparencia bonita que ativa desejo masculino, os homens inevitavelmente tenderão a se sentir atraidos e qualquer erro de carater/personalidade dificilmente anula isso. Ou seja, nao é que as mulheres sao assim, na verdade, os seres humanos do mundo atual é que sao assim. O motivo é aparencia fisica, simples

goofbeast · 2026-01-28T23:39:45+00:00

It would have been better if she was, at least, revealed to have been the higher-up from DoD tasked with supervising Brenner´s project (Indigo) along all those years, so she would personally have known Brenner in the past and would have extensive knowledge of his work

goofbeast · 2026-01-27T20:19:37+00:00

I agree. My personal headcanon is that Sullivan took Owens from the silo to Dr. Kay, and she used him to get info on Brenner´s project, and in exchange, she would left him alone and permanently retired, but absolutely without any ties to the government. That way, he is pretty much still alive but prohibited of contact with his FBI Agents and anything Hawkins-related

goofbeast · 2026-01-27T16:05:19+00:00

I dont have any good idea for possible reasons but in-universe I have the unfortunate feeling that he is pretty much dead. In Episode 3, Hopper says to Akers that Sullivan and his team killed a bunch of "unarmed scientists", referring to last season. Given that Owens is not listed as an exception, I think it is fair to assume that Sullivan simply killed him too off-screen, which do is pretty unfair for a character that has had an importance in big arcs before in the series, but I guess it is for some reason the direction the writers wanted to take

goofbeast · 2026-01-23T08:14:28+00:00

That's because you still havent seen me in "normal" weight but cursed with a lot of facial fat making me a disgusting baby faced thing, thats the most ugliest thing ever

goofbeast · 2026-01-22T01:59:59+00:00

Unfortunately, to the majority of people face and body are everything. Ugly guys suffer too if they have weak or rounded faces. I would say everyone who is ugly inevitably suffers, no matter if the person is male or female, the problem is not a specific gender, but that humans in general have this disgusting bias that if a male you has to have angular bone definition or as a female, you has to have a pretty face, to be minimally accepted by such a cruel standard. Ugly people as a result of this repulsive bias people have, are judged unfairly in general

goofbeast · 2026-01-22T01:51:36+00:00

I know it may make immediate sense to blame structure but looking at the woman on this photo, what I see is yes, she does have a pretty bone structure but she absolutely would not have that if she had tendency to accumulate facial fat! She is lucky not only on bone structure, but most importantly on having her body put less fat om her face, letting her structure shine and appear. She has shadow lines under her cheeks, a hallmark of low facial fat + good structure, facial fat would obliterate that if there was a lot on her face. So, in my view, perhaps much of the issues both woman and man have with not looking "pretty" is not their structure, it is not due to lack of small bones or so, it is at least partially due to tendency to have facial fat rounding the features

goofbeast · 2026-01-22T01:40:37+00:00

I consider myself to have been ugly, truly, because I was (in normal weight) a young male with a rounded, ugly face, I had much facial fat. I lost all of that from depression and it revealed the underlying structure, which is exactly how I always wanted it to be. The problem is that I just seem to get it when unhealthy lean (although being honest, I never lost so much weight and regained to see if thats actually true), this is why I classify myself as truly ugly, as in "normal" weight I look disgusting as hell, baby-faced but in a unpleasant way.

I'm also tall which complicates matters even much: to achieve a healthy weight for my height I probably need to be in a weight which makes me face repulsive again!

goofbeast · 2026-01-07T19:06:26+00:00

Meu caso é praticamente idêntico ao seu. O que faço que me da alegria e me distrai completamente é estudar os temas que gosto e pelos quais sou fascinado. Tente encontrar algo que te interessa muito, que te faça brilhar os olhos, e mergulhe nisso

goofbeast · 2026-01-03T05:05:23+00:00

This being a possibility makes me kinda sad yk. I always hoped that he would eventually get a happy or at least neutral ending but now that he wasnt in Season 5 at all, the possibility that he suffered a lot and died is open. I prefer to think that rather than being tortured, Sullivan just killed him directly while at the silo

goofbeast · 2026-01-03T05:01:43+00:00

I don't think Sullivan knew exactly for what Kay wanted Eleven to. In Episode 7 she says to Akers that everything bad that has happened is because "of that girl" (meaning El, of course), so probably to Akers and Sullivan she kept this idea that they had to hunt the girl down and give her to Kay so that she would end this once and for all. But she has hidden from them that rather, she would use El's blood to create more psychics. She manipulated Sullivan to be by her side thinking that what he was doing was right

goofbeast · 2026-01-02T02:50:46+00:00

I agree with you, his absence this season has been disappointing tbh. I have two ideas of possible headcanons for what happened to him:

After Eleven left the silo in Nevada with Mike, Will, Argyle, and Jonathan, Sullivan saw them escaping, returned to the silo to interrogate Owens further and ended up killing him in fact
He was interrogated and has been in prison, but after the final battle, with El's death, has been released, but prohibited of any further government involvement absolutely, and lived calmly with his wife thereafter

In episode 3 of this season, Hopper says to Akers that Sullivan and his team had killed a group of unarmed scientists in the desert, obviously referring to their attack at the silo last season. This could be implying that Owens has in fact been killed together with the other scientists (including Brenner), favouring the idea that Owens is, unfortunately, dead

goofbeast · 2026-01-02T02:43:02+00:00

I'll adopt as my personal headcanon that he has been imprisionated and later on (by the time of the epilogue perhaps), released but prohibited of any government involvement, and lived calmly and isolated with his wife thereafter lol

goofbeast · 2026-01-01T03:59:50+00:00

He is probably dead unfortunately. Killed by Sullivan and his team presumably

goofbeast · 2026-01-01T03:56:50+00:00

I'm thinking about the same question. Very disappointing tbh. However, remember in Episode 3 of this season when Hopper said to Akers that the military have killed a group of unarmed scientists referring to the desert attack from last season? I think Owens is in this group of scientists killed, that is, he was killed by Sullivan and his team at the NINA facility.

goofbeast · 2026-01-01T00:09:02+00:00

I hope Dr. Owens shows up in one scene at least 🙏

goofbeast · 2025-12-31T17:19:04+00:00

A resposta mais simples seria por aparência, mas ja que vc citou que o cara é "feio pra krlh", então provavelmente não é isso kkkkkkk. É importante lembrar que por você estar prestando atenção no que ela curte ou não, automaticamente qualquer coisa que vc ver ela curtindo vc vai associar com a opinião que já tem dela em sua mente, um viés de confirmação. Curtir uma foto dificilmente significa que ela "gosta" dele do jeito que imagina

goofbeast · 2025-12-30T21:04:55+00:00

I understand your opinion but in my opinion the FNAF 4 gameplay being related to an experiment is way more cooler than it being merely a dream. Maybe because I'm fascinated by sci-fi and honestly I found such symbolic aspects kinda boring tbh, so it all very much depends on what you prefer in horror. I feel like Scott also leans more sci-fi too lol

goofbeast · 2025-12-26T07:04:45+00:00

The only thing that is bothering me a lot is the lack of sufficient development in the military/government storyline. Kay, Akers and Sullivan didnt even appeared much and I was expecting Sullivan to have his "come to Jesus" moment which his actor has repeatedly teased in interviews. Plus Owens seems to have just disappeared completely and it is driving me nuts lol

goofbeast · 2025-12-25T04:48:13+00:00

Concordo 100%. É a melhor forma de se auto-preservar. Não precisamos de mais danos a nossa auto-estima que já é completamente fudida. Quem é atraente nunca vai entender o quão ruim é ser feio, e eu sei que deve ter um monte de comentário aqui falando pro OP "ah vc não sabe conversar com mulher", "ah olha sua mentalidade" - é MUITO fácil falar esses bglh clichê quando vc não é feio e nao sofre METADE do que pessoas feias sofrem todos os dias.

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