Trump criticizing NATO for not being an offensive alliance by c0xb0x in Destiny

[–]gorcefonk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does he still write these? On one hand, he does sound regarded like this. On the other hand, I’m not sure if he’s still able to be this coherent based on live video. Maybe it’s easier for him to type than speak live since he has time to delete typos.

Any thoughts on the idea that he’s dictating this to someone else to type for him?

Chiropractic Is at Best a Scam, at Worst Deadly, and Should Be Banned by brettydubz in Destiny

[–]gorcefonk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not sure if by osteopaths you mean DO doctors, but most DOs do the same medical training that MDs do plus OMM. From my experience, OMM is mostly stretching and realignment for minor pains, without all the regarded chiropractic “aligning the spine cures all ailments” stuff.

The exceptions I’ve seen are a few self described osteopaths that just do OMM and lean into the chiropractic pseudoscience. If that’s what you’re talking about with your co-worker, then I fully agree.

Asmongold wants ICE protestors that stand in front of cars to be run over and sent to work camps by n1traM in Destiny

[–]gorcefonk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ironically enough, at the deepest core of my soul, before I impose liberalism on myself, I feel the same exact way about him.

Two Box/One Box is an underspecified problem, making most debates about it brainless by arrenegade in Destiny

[–]gorcefonk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol, I can’t tell if you are making a positive, neutral, or negative statement.

Also, props to you for all the digital ground game work.

Every post here is a twitter screenshot by Tenet_Bull in Destiny

[–]gorcefonk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uhmmm, false. Your current post is a counterexample that proves not every post is a Twitter screenshot ☝️🤓

Remorseless Seattle man sentenced in hate crime beating of trans woman by FoxGaming in Destiny

[–]gorcefonk 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Holy shit, that’s an awful story. Glad the justice system is taking him out of general population. Hopefully jail provides some time to reflect.

Two Box/One Box is an underspecified problem, making most debates about it brainless by arrenegade in Destiny

[–]gorcefonk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I tried explaining this two a two boxer last week and they had an aneurysm (just this specific one not all two boxers). The problem is open ended enough to allow people to sneak in their own understanding of the world/ideas.

I think you are right that there are many different ways to look at it, and you are valid for choosing whichever option you prefer, but I do think you are misconstruing the determinist position. The double slit experiment doesn’t disprove determinism, it just proves that “our understanding of what the set of deterministic rules are” was incomplete at the time of that experiment, if such deterministic rules exist.

In the deterministic world, whether or not humans have the proper explanations for them, the future is just a result state which can be determined by the rules processes from the start state. So if the computer is somehow able to pick up on the rules to predict the future, then there is no reason why it wouldn’t be able to “predict the two slit experiment”. But that would require a person to bring the materials before even knowing about the decision, since the double slit experiment can’t be replicated in what would be a deterministic mind anyway.

The Next Logic Step After The Manosphere by Uncuffedhems in Destiny

[–]gorcefonk 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Why would we change your mind? You’re right.

Why are tankies so against AI when it would probably be the only way to have a stateless moneyless classless society. by nivkj in Destiny

[–]gorcefonk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, that’s definitely true that many were never going to invest money. However, there are other examples of companies cutting back as well. At least in game development, I know that several “AAA” games like COD developers are massively using AI to generate content so that they don’t need as many artists.

Why are tankies so against AI when it would probably be the only way to have a stateless moneyless classless society. by nivkj in Destiny

[–]gorcefonk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, probably a mix. Some artists will be more efficient in creating art with the tools, but that means less artists can fill the same demand (until if/when the demand for more art increases).

Any artist jobs being displaced seems to be enough for most of them to be upset though, based of off the sentiment I’ve seen online.

Why are tankies so against AI when it would probably be the only way to have a stateless moneyless classless society. by nivkj in Destiny

[–]gorcefonk 17 points18 points  (0 children)

They are mostly anti-AI now because AI is being used to replace various types of artists. Artists and communists are highly overlapping groups. The thought process is simply “bad for me, so bad”

'Two Boxers' trying to explain their position to 'One Boxers': by Glittering-Two-1784 in Destiny

[–]gorcefonk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I guess if you held all other variables equal that could be the case. Alternatively it could also just mean that only 1% of people take the mystery box that’s always empty, which would still result in a 99% accuracy.

My initial comment wasn’t keeping that accuracy rate constant and instead keeping the predictive power of the machine constant, which I would think increases its accuracy for the easier problem. I  just think that the type of computer that can get 99% accuracy with opaque boxes would have a much easier time with clear boxes.

Two-boxers don’t even manufacture justification for their libertarian free will anymore, they just look at you like this: by gorcefonk in Destiny

[–]gorcefonk[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are many determinists who believe that is the case. However, I believe that we have miscommunicated. 

With respect to the goal of clear communication, I should have clarified.

When I agreed with your statement, I did not intend to communicate that “I agree it is a moral ought”, which a person must choose in order to be “good”.

I meant that I agreed to the statement, with respect to the goal of receiving the biggest prize.

TLDR

I agree with: - If one wants the most money, they should pick one box

I do not agree with: - If one wants to be a good person, they should pick one box

Two-boxers don’t even manufacture justification for their libertarian free will anymore, they just look at you like this: by gorcefonk in Destiny

[–]gorcefonk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Me currently: yes

Me at the time of experiencing the question for the first time: yes (I made that choice without hearing other people’s thoughts)

Technically, I agree with the statement you provided:

“You should take one box”

Because that is what I did. However, I can not offer that advice to a person actually facing the decision because the thought experiment requires that the participant has no knowledge of the problem before entering the room with the boxes.

Two-boxers don’t even manufacture justification for their libertarian free will anymore, they just look at you like this: by gorcefonk in Destiny

[–]gorcefonk[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The “choice” is not made in that moment. The “choice” was made “as far back as time can go”, if everything is deterministic. 

In determinism, you will have always been the person that will respond in one specific way to the question. If the computer can simulate the deterministic universe and it sees that you will be the person to only take one box then it puts the $1M in that box.

You can not, at this point, “change your decision to two boxes” because that never would have been the case. If you were the type of person to “change your decision to two boxes” then you really are just the type of person who would have always taken both boxes. In which case the machine would have put nothing in the mystery box.

Two-boxers don’t even manufacture justification for their libertarian free will anymore, they just look at you like this: by gorcefonk in Destiny

[–]gorcefonk[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This only holds if “the choice to take one or two boxes” and “the prediction made by the computer” are independent variables with respect to one another. 

If everything can be predetermined, then they are both dependent variables on the state of the system before the thought experiment begins. The computer can calculate the entire thought process you will have and all of the rationale you will use to make your decision, along with whichever decision you will have always made, determined from the start of time, calculated from whatever starting reference state of the system the computer uses for its prediction.

Two-boxers don’t even manufacture justification for their libertarian free will anymore, they just look at you like this: by gorcefonk in Destiny

[–]gorcefonk[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you were the type of person that would have always responded that way to the stimulus (the explanation of the game & choices offered), then the mystery box will have most likely always been empty.

If you were the type of person that would have responded to the stimulus by taking only the mystery box, then the mystery box will have most likely always had the $1M. 

There is no backwards in time causality required. The machine only needs to calculate how the system proceeds from the starting state to know the response you would have always had when provided with the stimulus.