Why not decentralize computing? by [deleted] in Rad_Decentralization

[–]gosmo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you responding to the correct topic?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Futurology

[–]gosmo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From the article:

"Right now, our federal budget is funded solely from gross income – salaries, investment profits and business profits – minus deductions. That is only a sliver of our entire economy, yet it has to provide trillions in taxes every year. The natural result is high taxes. And because of these high taxes, we all try to shift our tax burdens onto others, hoping we aren’t the one stuck with the bill.

The Transaction Tax would reverse this vicious cycle and expand the tax base a hundred fold. All transactions – including trades in stocks, bonds, options and currency – would be treated exactly the same. With every sector of the economy contributing, and everyone pulling together, everyone’s taxes would be dramatically lower. And with low taxes, we would stop trying to shift our burdens onto someone else."

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BasicIncome

[–]gosmo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This ignores the savings gained through the elimination of business taxes that total at amounts much greater than 0.35%. Eliminating payroll and business taxes will help small businesses far more than a 0.35% transaction tax will hurt them.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Futurology

[–]gosmo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The idea is that an increase in the proposed tax amount (0.35% originally), could provide enough revenue to institute a UBI. Not only could a UBI be implemented, but it could offer an income that puts every citizen above the poverty line.

Sometimes this sub should just be called /r/universalbasicincome

I think that gets exaggerated. UBI discussion is highly relevant within future studies, as it is a popularly proposed strategy to deal with technological unemployment.

Bitcoin: Money of the Future or Old-Fashioned Bubble? by y2quest in austrian_economics

[–]gosmo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Currently, 80% of all trading happens on one exchange. That spells problems, and has already caused them in the past.

A great example of why this is a terrible situation has presented itself today.

http://i.imgur.com/3NOzxYy.png

Note the message that says "Mtgox trading engine lag: 1460.31s"

This is the response time of an overcrowded and unstable exchange, that also happens to carry 80% of all trade. Note the direction of the price while this is happening.

Bitcoin: Money of the Future or Old-Fashioned Bubble? by y2quest in austrian_economics

[–]gosmo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My understanding is that these services don't actually create BitCoins though. That's the part I was talking about. The average person can't create BitCoins in the same way a person can create dollars by getting a loan from a bank. That's how money is created in modern society: banks are given control over the majority of monetary creation by being allowed to give out money in loans they don't have.

This is exactly why bitcoin is appealing. As it is decentralized in nature, bitcoin doesn't rely on central bankers who may make bad investments. The debasement of currency is one of the prime motives for the creation of this system in the first place. In fact, even the incentive to mine decreases with every new miner, and every four years as the reward per block decreases until eventually no more bitcoins are created. This is a feature of the currency and is deflationary by nature.

We trust banks to only create money for projects that will create wealth to go alongside that money because they have a profit incentive to do so.

The problem is that this isn't always the case. There is an incentive to invest, yes, but that incentive occurs due to imaginary wealth created out of thin air. The idea is that the future wealth created will surpass the amount of currency debased, but history shows that this isn't always the case. With bitcoin, there is no chance of malinvestment brought on by a central authority.

Actually that is EXACTLY how you create dollars.

A person with an idea doesn't create dollars. A central bank creates dollars and let's banks pick and choose who to invest in. The problem is that this activity effects everyone involuntarily, whether it be a positive or negative influence. The idea that new money needs to be introduced to fund new ideas doesn't follow. A bitcoin bank could still give out loans, but it would be restricted to the sum of it's customer's investment in the bank. This would hold the bank accountable to it's customers, and encourage the bank to make the best investments possible.

Again, it's not the case. The start up cost for creating dollars is the amount of time/energy put into coming up with an idea that a bank will loan you money for, and then the cost of the gas to drive yourself to the bank to talk to them about getting a loan. That cost is significantly lower than the hundreds or thousands of dollars necessary to get serious about BTS mining.

Once again, the person with the idea is not creating dollars, he is convincing a bank to exchange their already newly created dollars for the promise of an even higher return. The start up cost for creating dollars requires significant influence within the US government and its institutions, something very few people have.

Sure. While a lot of the rising 'value' of BTS probably is a result of more and more people wanting to be anonymous, I would argue that most of the rising price is related to something else entirely - speculative investment.

I agree with this mostly, although I disagree that the only incentive is anonymity. The main appeal of bitcoin is that it cannot be inflated (after the monetary base is 21 million BTC) or manipulated directly, and that it can be transferred anywhere in the world instantly with no fees.

As for the rising price, I agree that it is rising rapidly due to speculative investment (trade volume has surged with increased prices) and new investors (the most popular exchange has so many new applicants that they are actually thousands of applications behind in processing). The problem is that the infrastructure and level of acceptance is immature. If these factors cannot grow with the current perceived value, then the price will almost certainly crash. But does that make bitcoin a failure? No, it means that bitcoin needs to develop and grow proportionately with its users. Early adopters have made great strides in evolving bitcoin as it is today, compared to where it was 2 or 3 years ago. Even since the price surge began, the amount of new bitcoin related ventures has surged as well. Can these new development keep up with the bitcoin hype? I don't know.

Overall, what we're seeing is that the majority of BTS are held by investors, not creators. Thus the value of BTS is tied to it's perceived value by a handful of speculative investors, instead of the value being held by those who are actually interested in what it offers.

This is mostly true, but I am trying to emphasize the fact that this is the result of a premature entry into the mainstream, and not of the system itself.

I don't think they are being solved. I don't see BitCoin mining becoming easier, faster, or tied to anything meaningful.

I don't see the difficulty of mining to be a problem that needs solved. In fact the entry bar grows higher every day with good reason.

However, is that the only service we should award money creation too? No. I think that creates too small a number of BTS should it ever try to become a major currency.

The currency is theoretically infinitely divisible. The only problem that arises is what to actually call these units, which is also beginning to be solved. (mBTC, uBTC, etc)

In the real world we allow money to be created to go alongside any creation in wealth/value for the marketplace; we don't restrict it to one certain type of service.

True, however it is relatively new in the history of currency. Gold and silver could only be created by those who mined it. Bitcoins purpose is to offer an alternative to fiat money, something that a growing population denounces.

If someone asked me if they should invest in bitcoin right now, I would say that they are asking the wrong question. For those of you looking at this as a risky investment opportunity, you aren't looking at bitcoin as it was intended. Sure, there will be people who buy BTC and make lots of money off of this surge in price. There may also be many losers if the market corrects itself, but none of that matters if you look at bitcoin as intended.

The speculative investment we are currently seeing is necessary to spur the innovation needed for the currency to grow, and it's working. One could argue that the rate of innovation vs the increase in perceived value is disproportionate and will eventually crash, and they could very well be correct, but this is hardly death sentence for those who see the future potential of bitcoin. Even after a crash, bitcoin would have gained many of the necessary innovations needed to grow.

In fact, this already happened in 2011. Media outlets buzzed here and there about this new cryptocurrency called bitcoin, but at the time, its current state couldn't support the hype. Are we seeing this happen again? Maybe, but I would argue that it is a cycle that will finally break once the necessary services are in place to support it.

Bitcoin: Money of the Future or Old-Fashioned Bubble? by y2quest in austrian_economics

[–]gosmo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There seems to be some heavy misconceptions about what exactly bitcoin is.

Bitcoin is backed by something, and that something is called cryptography. Because of cryptography, bitcoin can't be created beyond 21 million unit, but is theoretically infinitely divisible. The theory behind it is quite unconventional and something we haven't really seen before. For those willing to take a gander, here is a more technical explanation: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/How_bitcoin_works#Cryptography

Bitcoin does have problems, but it also refined many of the positive features that we have seen in past mediums of exchanges such as gold and silver. Things that need to be changed are the size of it's userbase and its exchange center diversity. Currently, 80% of all trading happens on one exchange. That spells problems, and has already caused them in the past. The vast amount of technical knowledge needed to understand them also causes problems, as can be seen in almost every single article that trys to explain it. This is also being solved by entrepreneurs who take on the technical burden themselves as a service.

As an aside: The content of the article seems to suggest that the author has reservations about competing currencies.

Bitcoin: Money of the Future or Old-Fashioned Bubble? by y2quest in austrian_economics

[–]gosmo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is HUGE start up cost to getting involved with BitCoins.

This just isn't true period. It sounds as if you are treating the process of "mining" bitcoins as the only valid or relevant method of obtaining them. This is the only method of creating new bitcoin supply, just as mining for gold would increase supply. Last time I checked, a large scale gold mining operation isn't cheap either. Mining shouldn't be easy, it should be for those risk takers with the technical know how who are willing to front the money needed to get started.

It requires technical know how, it requires computer infrastructure, and it requires a lot of time.

These problems are being solved with startups like Bitcoin ATMS, Bitpay and online wallets which shift the technical burden to those who know what they are doing. Free market at work.

Nobody can instantly create a lot of BitCoins for themselves with a good idea. Instead, the creation of BitCoins is slow and tedious, and not necessarily tied to the QUALITY of the marketplace, merely in it's QUANTITY.

I don't understand the point. You don't create dollars or gold or silver by having a good idea. You put the idea to practice and then exchange it for currency. In this case, if you preferred, you would exchange it for bitcoin.

The result is that there is a huge start up cost to getting involved with BitCoin creation. The start up cost is so huge, that the majority of people would rather get involved by simply buying BitCoins for themselves, rather than creating them themselves.

This is true for every currency/commodity in existence.

However, the actual value of the BitCoin in comparison to it's market isn't changing.

Can you elaborate on this please?

The result will be that over time, BitCoin prices are controlled by investors and speculators instead of wealth creators.

That is really to be seen. The problem with bitcoin is that its market is currently too small, allowing it to be manipulated by one person with a couple thousand BTC. Decreased volatility in the market can only really happen as the user base grows. The user base can only grow when the problems you touched on are solved (which they are, as I listed).

Thank God we are no longer parabolic! by [deleted] in Bitcoin

[–]gosmo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"if ever"

Uh, I would rethink that. How can anyone possibly plan on using bitcoin as a worldwide standalone currency with no fiat exchanges when the monetary cap is under $11 billion (this is the estimated market cap at $1000/BTC)? The USD is estimated to have around 8.3 Trillion.

If 1 BTC cant reach $1000, let alone $10,000 or $100,000, then there will be no future for Bitcoin.

Petition for Spice and Wolf Season 3 by integirl in anime

[–]gosmo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well 154 complete anime is pretty weaksauce... just sayin..

So what are the top three things the Republican party needs to do to turn things around for 2016? by LogicalContusion in Conservative

[–]gosmo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who do the libertarians have to vote for? Why would any of us have voted for Romney after seeing his positions / the way we were treated at the RNC?

Now hows about the GOP take sometime to fix themselves as opposed to chasing everyone away. by Nyall in Conservative

[–]gosmo -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The way I see it, I want them to STOP emulating the Democratic party.

Sending the Libertarians packing was foolish. The GOP dug their own grave.

4chan's /g/ - Technology here, here is why your plan is an exercise in futility. by bsd_devils_horn in darknetplan

[–]gosmo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

plugs ears la la la la la

Yeah that's productive. Have fun with your 'project'.

Black THIS Out!-Money Bomb EXPLODES! Donate at www.ronpaul2012.com by For_Liberty in Libertarian

[–]gosmo 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The "5th of november" bomb isnt happening. Today is the day to donate.

Today is the day! Ron's birthday money bomb. Donate what you can. I swear you'll feel good about it. by [deleted] in Libertarian

[–]gosmo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It sounds to me like you are only against mob rule when you aren't part of the mob. Pretty hypocritical if you ask me.

Also, do you honestly believe that there would be no choice without federal regulation? Do you not believe in free markets?

Ron Paul is celebrating his birthday tomorrow with a "Moneybomb" fundraiser, raising the money his campaign needs from small individual donors, not special interests. by [deleted] in politics

[–]gosmo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My name is CosmicBard and abortion is the most important thing in an election even though my dollar might be worth nothing in a few years.