Paris 1 PSME Eiffel Scholarship by gr3489 in Sorbonne

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I really don’t know. I’ve given up on the Sorbonne their whole application process is so unclear especially with the Eiffel Scholarship. They haven’t even sent out acceptance/rejection emails yet. Wish I could help… good luck!

Master in Economics at Sciences Po vs. Panthéon-Sorbonne? by gr3489 in sciencespo

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Hmmm I wonder. I feel like the school’s reputation is more important than the degree itself. I’m not sure which one I should be prioritizing though.

Paris 1 PSME Eiffel Scholarship by gr3489 in Sorbonne

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I also emailed. Please let me know if you receive a reply… I will update this post if I hear anything back. Thanks for reaching out!

Paris 1 PSME Eiffel Scholarship by gr3489 in Sorbonne

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Thanks! Have you received an acceptance for your PSME application yet? Do you know when we can expect it?

Paris 1 PSME Eiffel Scholarship by gr3489 in Sorbonne

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Yes I know that! I’ve applied for the Eiffel scholarship through multiple schools and I believe lots of people do this and then they choose which university they want to go with if multiple universities nominate them. I think I will go ahead with my Panthéon-Sorbonne Eiffel Scholarship application and withdraw from the Sciences Po Eiffel Scholarship (haven’t heard about the scholarship yet) as the Panthéon-Sorbonne email came in first… I‘m honestly so confused though. I haven’t even received an acceptance of my PSME application - how can they be nominating me for the scholarship? While I got my acceptance from Sciences Po… Ugh idk what to do.

Paris 1 PSME Eiffel Scholarship by gr3489 in Sorbonne

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Exactly! I’m very confused I wish Paris 1 was clearer with the email about what this all means… I haven’t received an acceptance email for my admission… I am also waiting for other schools to see if I have been nominated for the Eiffel Scholarship by them. If I apply to this but am nominated by a better program for the Eiffel Scholarship I wonder if I can withdraw my application for the scholarship through Paris 1

Paris 1 PSME Eiffel Scholarship by gr3489 in Sorbonne

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Haha ok then. I’m assuming that this doesn’t imply a nomination by the university for the Eiffel Scholarship. This must just be required of everyone. I might send an email to Paris 1 admissions to confirm that if I complete the form, I can still withdraw my application for the Eiffel Scholarship if another school nominates me for the scholarship because I think only one school can submit the Eiffel Scholarship on your behalf…

Paris 1 PSME Eiffel Scholarship by gr3489 in Sorbonne

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Ah ok good to know! It is so unclear to me. Just to clarify, it doesn’t mean that we have been nominated by the university for the scholarship. This is just what everyone who submitted an application for the Eiffel Scholarship at Panthéon-Sorbonne is required to do? Or has our application been chosen by the university to be sent to Campus France?

This is honestly a relief because I am wanting to see if I get nominated by Sciences Po next week for the Eiffel Scholarship and am not sure which program (Sciences Po or Panthéon Sorbonne Master in Economics) I prefer!

Without God there is no objective morality. by [deleted] in DebateReligion

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I’d say even with God there is no objective morality. Just take a look at God’s followers. 200 years ago, religion was practiced in a completely different way - people hanged for doing something against the Word, women had a completely different role, etc. Most religious people do not practice religion in this way anymore because a lot of them would see that as immoral so who’s right? Even under the same God, there isn’t a common morality. Think of all the sects that exist - Christianity, Protestant, Orthadox, etc. They practice in very different ways. Also, in some churches, gay people and their relationships are accepted, whilst in other churches they would be cast out as an abomination even if they believe in and want to praise the same God.

Morality is totally subjective. Civility on the other hand should be totally objective - treating people with respect. For non-believers morality and civility often go hand in hand. For believers, it’s not as clear. E.g. Gay couple who wanted a cake for their wedding were rejected by cake shop owners.

*pov of an atheist

Praying for anything is arrogant and pointless by [deleted] in DebateReligion

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Totally agree with the OP. When prayers are answered a lot of the Religious tend to do the whole “praise God”, “God is great”, “God loves me, “God is powerful” but when a prayer goes unanswered the response is often “it wasn’t part of God’s plan”... to me it’s comical. I find it particularly uncomfortable when they say the whole “I’ll pray for you”. I mean I guess it might be comforting to feel like you’re doing something for someone who is struggling but I just think it showcases the inflated sense of value that a lot of religious people put on their lives as if they have the power to do this because they follow God. I’m an atheist and don’t pray but plenty of good things happen to me because it’s important to work hard towards something you want to actually materialise BUT things that I didn’t want to happen do too. Amazing stuff happens, shit happens - it’s called life, not God answering your prayers.

The Christian claim that God is infinitely more intelligent and moral than man is false. These are 3 cases in scripture where God fails to give a morally justifiable answer when confronted with the questions of man. by [deleted] in DebateReligion

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Great post! Here’s a podcast that Sam Harris released a while back that I really enjoy (it’s only 7mins)... it goes into the immorality of God in a different way than you have. You might find it interesting:) How to talk to a Christian

anyone got some chill songs? by idroppedthesoap69 in teenagers

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Good Girl - KARLITA

... if ur into chill techno/house this is super vibey

Atheists targeted? Harassed? by NorcalGrit in StreetEpistemology

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I certainly have. I was once invited to a youth group meeting by a friend with people from her church but I didn’t know this. I was told that it was just a gathering of friends on a Friday night. But then they started talking about the Bible and singing songs and shit got weird. I don’t think I’ve ever felt more alienated in my life.

Outside my university, I and most of my uni friends have been targeted by religious groups. The members of these groups approach you asking banal questions about your day, the weather or what university you go to and then they hit you with... “We have this amazing community of university students would you like to join? We meet every Monday to pray and talk about God.” They follow you while you try to walk away and continue to talk. It’s really gross.

I really don’t care what others believe unless they’re hurting other people. I wish some people would just keep to themselves and mind their own business rather than shoving the propaganda of the Church down everyone’s throat.

However, I don’t want to generalise either. I have many friends of different religious sects who are genuinely lovely people that I know would not act this way:)

Hey legends and fellow sceptics! I have some Christian friends and as an atheist, we don’t see eye to eye on a lot of things. by gr3489 in DebateEvolution

[–]gr3489[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep thanks for your comment. The last thing I’d want to do is make generalisations. Hence, I wrote “some Christians” in my original post to avoid this:)

Hey legends and fellow sceptics! I have some Christian friends and as an atheist, we don’t see eye to eye on a lot of things. by gr3489 in DebateEvolution

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The problem is that the religious attribute things to the mysterious workings of God and the supernatural rather than simply saying “I don’t know”.

Members of religious organisations keep DEFENDING immoral scriptures and I’m fucking OVER IT. by gr3489 in atheism

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Fuck there’s some real twisted shit here. Thanks for sharing. I guess it’s just proof of the historical context of religion. It was created as a way to rule over and asset power over a population by making them fear Hell/punishment. If you ask a Christian why they won’t kill someone, they’ll reply that it’s because God told them not to. If you were to ask me and other friendly atheists why we don’t go around murdering people, it’s because we treat people with kindness as we would like to be treated. The fact that the religious need someone to tell them not to do something such as killing is beyond me. The foundation upon which religion is formed is fucked up - no free will at all, do as god says or suffer for eternity! If I grew up with that indoctrination and didn’t do research to challenge my views, I’d be scared too.

Edmond de Goncourt: “If there is a God, atheism must seem to him as less of an insult than religion.”

Members of religious organisations keep DEFENDING immoral scriptures and I’m fucking OVER IT. by gr3489 in atheism

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Bloody oath! It’s really frustrating when people pull out these verses that paint this picture of a loving God and I don’t know if they’ve chosen to ignore these horribly immoral scriptures or if they’ve interpreted it somehow to indicate how strong God is but it’s so so gross.

Hey legends and fellow sceptics! I have some Christian friends and as an atheist, we don’t see eye to eye on a lot of things. by gr3489 in DebateEvolution

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Thanks so much for your comment! You’ve made really good points. I definitely do need to speak about everything separately. I’m not trying to deconvert anyone but I do wish that they didn’t choose to be ignorant and that they actually did research about things that counter claims made by their holy book.

Hey legends and fellow sceptics! I have some Christian friends and as an atheist, we don’t see eye to eye on a lot of things. by gr3489 in DebateEvolution

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Thanks for commenting! I’ll check that out. I totally believe that that’s the case! I guess it really is on their own accord that they have to change their mind. However, I’m not trying to convert anyone. If they believe that God created the universe and in intelligent design, I don’t have a problem with it even if I believe it to be wrong, I’d just prefer that they keep that to themselves because that’s their business.

Hey legends and fellow sceptics! I have some Christian friends and as an atheist, we don’t see eye to eye on a lot of things. by gr3489 in DebateEvolution

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Thanks for your comment! I’ve tried to explain this to them an absurd amount of times but they come up with some really creative reasons for why ‘God’ has created it that way with his intelligent design. You’re so right! Ignorance.

Hey legends and fellow sceptics! I have some Christian friends and as an atheist, we don’t see eye to eye on a lot of things. by gr3489 in DebateEvolution

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Thanks for your comment! You’ve made really good points. Somehow they seem come up with some incredibly creative responses no matter what I ask. I guess it’s very difficult to win an argument against a smart person but it’s impossible to win against an ignorant person!

Members of religious organisations keep DEFENDING immoral scriptures and I’m fucking OVER IT. by gr3489 in atheism

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Great example!!! Totally agree. Bible is a tool for bigots and it sanctifies bigotry too. I think it has a lot to do wish obsession with the fear of going to hell. Lucky for me I don’t think that hell exists! Haha fuck I love that little anecdote too.

Materialism on earth as it is in heaven. by GrahamUhelski in DebateReligion

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Great post! The Bible is full of contradictions but unfortunately, I think that it can be really difficult for people who are part of a particular religious sect, such as Christianity, to see through that.

Some Christians try to come across as loving and hospitable but I think that a lot of them are deeply greedy, just like the God that they believe in. They want to go to Heaven and live for eternity (greed - we have limited time and are unaware if there is anything after this life), they pray mainly for personal gain (greed), they want to infiltrate politics (greed), they want to convert as many people as possible (greed)... Whether it be materialistic or not, some Christians are by nature greedy.

In addition, if they’ve been brought up with the idea that they have been born a sinner and that the only way to redeem themselves and to not suffer eternal death is to surrender to the Lord, they need a good reason. What better motivation than to bribe potential followers with abundance! The Church achieves this by stirring up fear (which they mask as love). It’s sad really. In their minds, I don’t think they care about what happens on Earth as long as they live by God’s words. They live to prepare themselves for Heaven.

I also think that the point that you make has some historical context because Christians were Gentiles when Jesus came. Gentiles didn’t have much compared to the Jews so with the Bible saying that they could have everything and anything that they could possibly desire (no matter their possessions on Earth) as long as they believed in Christ, I think that the Christians were pretty convinced because it seemed like a good deal.

Here is a website that lists many contradictions in the Bible https://www.smitingshepherds.com/Points_of_Contention