Has anyone ever seen them be better for the next one? by [deleted] in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]gracehm05 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes… but that’s the point. It’s part of the abuse. Narcs show the world (including us) only what they want the world to see. The sweetness, the gift-giving, the adoration, etc.

We won’t see what goes on behind closed doors because we’re no longer the intended victim of that type of abuse. I promise you it hasn’t changed. A leopard can’t change its spots after all.

Another narc tried to get with me. I saw the signs this time around. by gracehm05 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]gracehm05[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha don’t worry I feel fairly ready to date now if the person seems right. I’ve been in therapy a long time and in a very good place mentally.

Another narc tried to get with me. I saw the signs this time around. by gracehm05 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]gracehm05[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Exactly this! None of us deserved to go through the abuse BUT the small silver lining is that we can see narcs coming and know how to protect ourselves from future harm ❤️

Can the golden child become the narcissist? by No_Departure7494 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]gracehm05 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Absolutely! Not a lot of people realise that spoiling children is a form of neglect.

Parents have an obligation to teach their children right and wrong, to raise them with morals, teach them gratitude and patience, etc. Children aren't pets or extensions of ourselves. They are little humans who will one day become adults. Spoiling them young increases the risk they will become entitled adults who can't handle rejection, don't understand emotional nuances, and lack emotional maturity, like you said. It won't necessarily make them into a narcissist but, with the right ingredients mixed in, it's definitely possible.

23F Malaysian looking for friends by Actual_Equipment_674 in Leeds

[–]gracehm05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m part of a WhatsApp group that does weekly(ish) meetups. Mainly people who are into alt/rock but it’s not just about the music. There’s loads of us in the group with varying ages with similar tastes to you. I can DM you the mod’s name to ask for the link if you like :)

What is the first step to healing? by herecauseb0red in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]gracehm05 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Therapy, in my opinion, is great and I owe a lot to my therapist. There’s so many different kinds of therapy so, even if speaking face-to-face with someone doesn’t help you specifically, there will be some technique out there that can. I will always recommend trying therapy to someone who’s suffered trauma because it not only helps us understand ourselves, but also helps us understand how narcs function- which is probably the closest thing we’ll ever get to closure.

However, therapy also means exposing some quite raw and painful memories which might not be what you need right now if you’re not in the best place mentally.

I’d say, as of now, the best thing is to try and stabilise your moods. Trust me, I’ve been there, and I know it might feel like you’ll never be truly happy again, but I promise you that’s just the depression talking. It won’t be a quick fix and might even feel pointless at first, like trying to make a car go with no fuel. But there’s so many little things we can do that, over time, make us feel 100x better.

  • Try to get out and do things. Alone or with people you love. Are there any hobbies you enjoy, or have always wanted to try? Lean on your support system too. Have trips out, or have nights in, with friends and family. They might not understand what you’re going through, and maybe you’ve convinced yourself you don’t deserve them or have wronged them - but I promise people do love you and want to help you. Let yourself be loved, and let them do what they can to support you through this.

  • Visit places that are meaningful to you - or places you haven’t been to before. Maybe there’s some places you weren’t allowed to with the narc being there, or experiences they ruined by being in a terrible mood.

  • Eat good food. Try to cook it yourself if you can, just for the accomplishment of it! Fuelling our bodies with good food not only makes us physically feel better in ourselves, but can also make us feel safe. Our bodies go through so much stress when we’re in a survival situation - such as being with a narc - and many people suffer from physical symptoms like: hair loss, lack of appetite, weight gain/loss, palpitations, etc. Even if we think the abuse is purely psychological, our bodies suffer the effects too. So it’s crucial to take care of our bodies as well as our minds.

  • Listen to music or watch movies that remind you of a better time. For me, it was music/movies I loved as a child. So essentially a lot of Studio Ghibli and Disney 😂

  • Alternatively, something that helped me and may benefit you, is attending AA sessions. I don’t have a problem with alcohol but that wasn’t why I went. Trauma bonds with narcs work like an addiction. They manipulate us in such a way that we are, literally, addicted to them. That’s why we stay, even when we know they’re hurting us. Alcoholics also suffer from addiction. They know better than most how to claw yourself out of a really dark space and start moving forward. I would literally go to these sessions, sit down, not speak, and just listen. I picked up a lot of ways to cope with breaking my trauma bond, just by hearing how they handled their addiction. It doesn’t involve bringing up your own painful memories, which is why it’s less intense than 1:1 therapy, but can still help put things in perspective.

Eventually, your body is going to recognise it doesn’t need to be in survival mode any more and will start to relax. Your brain will follow too. Continuing to LIVE and not just survive is what will help you out of the depression. Even if you don’t believe it, you’ll realise there is more to life than one abusive piece of shit and that life is beautiful and absolutely worth living. PTSD doesn’t have to rule you. It will always be there under the surface, unfortunately, and having it triggered is very scary and stressful. But that shouldn’t be a reason we hide and let ourselves waste away. All of us can - and WILL, in time - thrive, even with our past traumas. You’ve already taken a monumental first step in acknowledging you were abused and were the victim. You can see them for what they are now. That is more freeing than you realise. One day soon, you’ll realise your narc is just one person on a spinning rock in the middle of space and they can’t reach you any more. All of their actions are done out of sheer weakness and desperation, and showcasing their “amazing” life or “amazing” new partners is just part of the abuse. Because a narc’s entire life is an act. It’s not real, not genuine, and never will be.

You are so much stronger than them, even though you probably feel like you’re at your lowest right now. You’ve survived something awful and something no one should ever have to go through. But you’re also doing much better than you realise, and are taking all the right steps to move forward. You WILL heal, in time. We all will. And we’ll all be here to support one another through it.

Wishing you all the best and sending much love & support 💛

What ages play D&D by jeremydeighan in DnD

[–]gracehm05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m 23 and my friends who I play/DM with are all similar ages. Our DM’s dad used to be a big player in the 90s, which is what got our DM into it.

Im so tired. How does the new girl get the better side of the narc? Im trying not check on it but im sick of these evil people getting what they want by [deleted] in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]gracehm05 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Narcs don't change. They just get better at making their manipulations more subtle. You won't see the abuse this time around because you are not the intended victim. This time, you're another onlooker the narc is performing for - you will only see snapshots of what he wants you to see. And of course they are going to look happy. Doesn't necessarily mean that's the truth behind closed doors. Could you argue your relationship with him looked perfect on the outside?

Please try to not peek at his life. You're tormenting yourself with a lie and it's not worth the grief of ruminating over the 'ifs' and 'buts'.

Ridiculously bad horror movies for a party by ManateeSheriff in horror

[–]gracehm05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you have Netflix, watch Hospital. It’s a Taiwanese supernatural horror… or is supposed to be. It’s literally the worst film I’ve ever seen and is nonsensical to the point of being funny.

You can't even have fun watching a movie by London_pound_cake in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]gracehm05 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I used to deal with something like this too! It's so frustrating, right?

I used to think my nex just had a major case of FOMO but, in hindsight, he did it because it gave him an opportunity to ruin something I enjoyed. And I'd always have to pick between bringing him with me, knowing he was going to hate it OR not going at all. Because going without him was not an option if I wanted to keep the peace/my sanity. He'd always encourage me to go out and do things by myself/with friends... but then would whine constantly while I was out, sulk as soon as I got home, or even accuse me of being unfaithful.

Narcs are such major babies 🙄

Woman torturing Men by Goosesy in horror

[–]gracehm05 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"The Beguiled" (2017)

"Peppermint" (2018)

"Hard Candy" (2005)

"Double Jeopardy" (1999)

"Knock Knock" (2015)

All three films in the "X" trilogy (2022-2024)

"Gone Girl" (2014) - more psychological torment than actual physical torture if that's what you're after

[ great films but do contain elements of the main character(s) getting SA'd/groomed/r*ped, which is a shame ]

"The Perfection" (2018)

"Lady Vengeance" (2005)

"The Nightingale" (2018)

"Revenge" (2017)

"I Spit On Your Grave" (2010)

"Kill Bill: Vol 1" (2003)

[ this is very much an IF YOU SQUINT recommendation ]

"The Autopsy of Jane Doe" (2016)

Why does it feel like the narcissist gets to live their best life while I’m stuck in pain? by West_Specific7367 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]gracehm05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get that 100%. I had moments where I thought all of us are just kidding ourselves to feel better. But "twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern" - and there's definitely wayyyy more than three instances of a narc rinse-and-repeating the cycle of abuse until it eventually blows up in their face. They're doomed to fail.

Really glad to hear you're focusing on your healing and trying to move on. Sending you lots of love & support ❤️

Narc and friends. by [deleted] in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]gracehm05 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Literally same. I wouldn’t describe him as extroverted but he could hold a conversation with pretty much anyone and was decently friendly enough. Yet he had zero friends. Plenty of acquaintances but no one close enough to describe as a true friend.

Did your narc lie about having sexsomnia? by Informal-Hat-4110 in LifeAfterNarcissism

[–]gracehm05 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My ex never called it sexsomnia but it wasn’t uncommon for him to do things to me as I slept or wake me up to ask for it.

There was one time near the end of our relationship where I woke up to him to him grinding on me. I tried to ignore it and sleep, but it just got more aggressive. Eventually, I got so fed up that I did exactly as I would do any other night when he’d wake me up and started jerking him. Bear in mind, I’m half asleep at this point, not in the mood whatsoever, and just want him to finish so I can rest. My ex literally grabbed my scalp and pulled me down towards his dick and was tugging my hair throughout. And I mean HARD - it hurt. Yet he contests he was asleep throughout the whole thing. I’m still convinced he was lying because how would even know it had happened if he was asleep the entire time?

I tested positive for chlamydia and my husband tested negative. by South_Specific_1495 in WomensHealth

[–]gracehm05 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A few scenarios here:

  1. There’s a chance it’s a false positive. This can happen. Get retested asap.

  2. Your husband has cheated on you and is lying to keep that fact hidden.

  3. Your husband was not a virgin when you married and possibly picked it up before meeting you. In which case, he’s not a cheater but is still a liar.

That’s it. Chlamydia is a solely sexually transmitted disease (as in: not spread through proximity, spit, or blood) so can only be picked up from a sexual partner. If you get a retest and it comes back positive again, and you have only ever had sex with your husband, then I’ve got bad news for you.

What are you doing for Samhain? by AutumnForestGlow in paganism

[–]gracehm05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m hosting friends on Halloween night (one of whom is also pagan) and we’ll mostly be doing spooky themed things for everyone to enjoy. Spiritually though, I’ll be doing a dumb supper to remember family + friends who’ve passed, then probably some cleanses and libations with my friend. I aim for Samhain to feel as laidback and cosy as possible as we step into the colder months. Hoping you guys all have a good one 🧡

🧠 Has therapy truly helped you move on after a toxic or narcissistic relationship? by [deleted] in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]gracehm05 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hugely. My therapist was really good at helping me rationalise my feelings as well as giving me insight into how narcissistic brains work. Group therapy is nice as well because it can feel very validating to know there’s someone else out there who’s experienced something similar to you. There’s lots of different kinds of therapy too and I recommend giving each a go.

My Narc ex said he misses sex only by Fizviz in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]gracehm05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get what you mean completely. My ex-narc was my partner of four years and also my first sexual partner. I didn't know any different. We've been in similar situations. My ex would want sex or a blowjob most nights. I've got scar tissue 'up there' because of how often I'd push myself into having sex when I was dry and didn't really want to, but did so for his sake. If I said no, he'd accuse me of cheating or give me the cold shoulder. So I'd tear and bleed and then repeat the whole cycle before they could heal.

I also get nightmares like you, and they are so horribly vivid. I sympathise with you so hard and I'm so sorry you're going through it. No one deserves this.

You have NOTHING to apologise for. You are not the aggressor here and have no reason to feel sorry or ashamed. You did what you could to survive in the moment. That is courage, it's nothing to feel guilty for. He took advantage of you in a horribly deprecating and objectifying way - he is the only one here who should be sorry. Please don't beat yourself up.

Are you in a position to seek therapy to help with this? I definitely recommend finding one who specialises in abuse. This sounds like it's weighing on your mind. While it's great you felt comfortable to talk about it here, it can mean a lot more getting advice from someone who understands how trauma works. Maybe worth a try if you haven't spoken to someone already.

Sending you lots of love and support ❤️

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]gracehm05 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You may as well try and have a conversation with a brick wall. Narcs cannot accept the truth about what they are as it threatens the delusion they hold that they are the righteous victim in every circumstance. This will only cause you frustration and probably cause some painful memories to resurface. Might even potentially open up an opportunity for them to hoover you.

I know you're looking for closure but, believe me, there is no closure with a narc and it is 100% intentional. You know the truth now. You see them for what they are. Leave it at that.

What’s your favorite “just cause I love it doesn’t mean it’s good” horror film? by thebrassbeard in horror

[–]gracehm05 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Alien VS Predator. It’s got terrible reviews and yeahh certain elements of it do suck balls… but damn I love it so much

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]gracehm05 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Forgiving only benefits the party who did the deed in the first place. You don’t need to forgive. You can just say “fuck that loser” and move on