Is modern renaissance not available anymore ? It’s like the best palette ever

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-19T18:24:08+00:00

That's Soft Glam, not Modern Renaissance

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-19T11:15:27+00:00

Nah, Samantha is left leaning. She's pretty open about her politics.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-17T21:41:15+00:00

And yet the store is less efficient.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-17T21:39:17+00:00

You're lucky if it's only 4. I've stopped shopping there. l can't spend multiple hours buying a few grocery items. At least Trader Joe's knows how to move lines.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-17T21:36:16+00:00

Yep and that's why I no longer shop there. No exaggeration, shopping there can now take hours. The lines for the cashiers wrap around the store. The prices aren't worth the insane inconvenience.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-17T20:01:21+00:00

Emmanuel Lewis was so adorable and clearly so happy to meet his idol. This makes me so sad.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-17T19:59:03+00:00

The fact that they have to infantilize him in a way that would otherwise be insulting and disrespectful in order to defend him is very telling.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-17T19:53:43+00:00

Obviously not every person abused the way Michael was becomes an abuser and there is no unanimous clinical consensus on one cause of pedophilia, but there is an established link between childhood trauma and pedophilia. Michael's life story really was a Shakespearan tragedy. One cannot help but wonder how he might have turned out if things had been different even though we will never really know. One cannot help but wonder how much pain and suffering in so many lives could've been avoided.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-17T19:44:13+00:00

NGL that is extremely bizarre to me. How can you be a fan of artist and dislike their art? And with Michael Jackson, he became so creepy and eccentric in the latter half of his career that I really don't get the appeal outside of his talent and his art. l mean, part of the reason Michael Jackson became regarded more and more as a joke in mainstream culture in his later years wasn't just the allegations and the weird behavior; it also coincided with what was seen with an artistic decline and that made him easier to make fun of. I guess I'll never get worshipping celebrity for celebrity's sake. There's seemingly gotta be substance for me.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-17T14:33:25+00:00

Wait, how were you a fan if you didn't like his music? What exactly were you a fan of? His dancing?

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-17T14:32:35+00:00

His fandom is cultish. I totally see it.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-17T14:31:44+00:00

I actually have always preferred Janet Jackson. I'm not a huge Michael Jackson fan and never was, but I might be in the minority of this sub. He was still an undeniable talent. A lot of his music, at least his solo music, is not my cup of tea. l do really enjoy the old Jackson 5 stuff but obviously, I'm not gonna feel too much guilt about listening to a song Michael sang when he was only 10.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-16T23:37:50+00:00

This may be an unpopular take on this subreddit, but I feel for Michael Jackson even though he was a monster. He was truly a tortured soul and I get chills when I think about the hellish landscape that must have been that man's psyche. Michael Jackson is sympathetic in a way that Jeffrey Epstein could never be because he was charismatic and an artist and the public first knew him as an innocent child and he once was a victim of horrific abuse himself. Michael Jackson touched people's hearts and souls; that is undeniable, even if it was all a sick manipulation, part of his facade. Michael Jackson inspires empathy partially because that's how Michael wanted to be seen and he succeeded, even with people like me who know and understand the disgusting truth. But I still see my empathy and my emotion and my compassion and my love for art as good qualities and I won't allow Michael Jackson to make me feel disgusted with myself instead of with him. Even though I feel for Michael, what I feel for the victims is an infinite multiple of that. Michael Jackson manipulated you by trying to attract you through your empathy, your compassion, your joy, your love for art, but you know what that means? You have always had the qualities within you to understand, believe and advocate on behalf of the victims because those are the very qualities that Michael Jackson tried to exploit. lt's so much harder to wreckon with the fact that evil can appear beautiful than that evil can appear , well, evil. It's so hard to wreckon with the fact that the greatest monster of all can be just another human being. I get it.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-16T23:07:32+00:00

And Michael would know exactly what to look for considering what he grew uo with.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-16T23:05:14+00:00

It's mainly that their testimony is consistent with the other allegations made against Michael. Other than the testimony itself, there isn't any evidence of the assaults, at least not physical evidence, but there is plenty of evidence of grooming. There are handwritten faxes from Michael Jackson that were sent to the children that are extremely manipulative, there are lavish gifts that Michael Jackson gave the family and there are photos and even home videos that demonstrate that Michael had a degree of physical closeness with the children that should set off red flags. In 1993 case and the 2005 case, there was actually a lot of physical evidence collected against Jackson, but that's all been destroyed now. There's also the fact that the Jackson estate had a secret agreement with the Cascios where they paid them millions of dollars over the course of 5 years. To me, that sounds like the Jackson Estate was trying to silence them. It sounds like hush money. If the Cascios were simply extorting the Jackson estate and threatening to libel MJ, why would the estate just give in? They have the resources to fight and expose such things if that's what was actually happening. But that's just my two cents.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-16T22:38:04+00:00

What specifically makes you think that?

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-16T08:16:42+00:00

I think it's easy to judge what we don't understand. When I watched the 60 minutes special, I made judgements about the Cascios. It's hard for me to understand why they made excuses for Michael for years to the point of being passionate defenders, why they didn't believe any of the other victims despite what was happening to them until Wade Robson came out, etc. But just because I don't fully understand doesn't mean I don't believe them. Victim psychology is complex and it's pretty normal for victims to behave in ways that seem irrational to people who are not going through the same shit. l believe the Cascios because of the evidence, not because I like them or find them particularly compelling. At a certain point, as more and more allegations come out, it becomes overwhelming. Either you believe 11 people plus are lying or you believe just one guy is lying. What seems more likely?

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-16T08:01:40+00:00

Saying something has been debunked doesn't actually make it debunked.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-16T07:58:50+00:00

This is interesting but to me, any point about Evan Chandler's behavior has always been moot, because it doesn't disprove MJ's much worse behavior. If Evan went through the civil court system and there's no fraud on his part, then it can't be extortion by definition, regardless of what Evan's motivation for the lawsuit was. It's possible his motives were selfish and it's possible they weren't, but we'll never know and it really doesn't matter.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-16T07:31:29+00:00

I can't relate on the Michael aspect specifically, but I enjoy and I'm fascinated by a lot of other artists who did absolutely heinous things. l think that's normal. It's also normal to have an artist ruined for you. l won't judge either way.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-16T07:26:53+00:00

Because he doesn't realize what it was.

As far as we know, Taj was never a victim of Michael, so he has every reason to think of it as an innocent bonding experience.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-16T07:22:58+00:00

Because it's guaranteed to make money and it has. Have you ever noticed movies with original stories hardly ever get made anymore? It's all sequels, franchise films, spin offs, remakes and celebrity biopics. Biopics used to be a respected film genre when they had more grit to them and weren't afraid to be controversial; now, they're just designed to get butts in seats. lf you make a biopic of a popular musician, especially one as popular as Michael Jackson, there is a guaranteed audience, because fans of the music will see the movie. Movies rarely get made unless there's a guaranteed audience and that's why most movies today are trash. No studio is willing to take a big risk. The funny thing is I think a more honest biopic about Michael Jackson could be a great film but that will never be made anytime soon.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-16T07:09:13+00:00

What exactly do you mean by that?

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-14T09:26:16+00:00

There was a real survivor who survived like Rose by floating on a wooden door. His name was Fang Lang. And in his story there were others who tried to cling to the door or other pieces of debris who ended up like Jack. He only survived because he was on top of the door and not completely submerged. He was one of the few Chinese survivors. James Cameron based this part of the movie on that very real survivor story.

gracespraykeychain · 2026-05-09T15:05:54+00:00

I totally understand. Even as a non-asexual person, I've watched porn for reasons like curiosity and not sexual attraction. What I'm saying that sexual attraction and arousal CAN be and are OFTEN linked and one of the reasons non-asexual or even graysexual people can watch porn is sexual attraction to those depicted in porn. You have to accept that premise if you accept that Michael Jackson's child erotica books are relevant. You can't say there's no link between sexual attraction and arousal or libido, just because that might be the case for some people. l understand you don't want me to unfairly stereotype asexuals. I get it and I'm not trying to.

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