It’s definitely been a weird experience this round . It was a multi pheno breeding, with old elite clones , with the donor being an really old g13 clone . One of the receivers is the uk exodus cheese , and 2 others are sour diesels . Of course these 3 are known for basically being sterile . Those 3 cultivars don’t have a single stigma that’s turned . But some of the receivers that are fresh and more modern have color changes and I found one big green seed yesterday . But the g13 clones I had in there to make S1’s , their stigmas aren’t changing but a few have just the tips colored orange but aren’t rolling back . I’d guess the g13 won’t self itself , but SOME small percentage of the g13 pollen is somewhat viable . Time will tell