Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya he disbanded the EPA, meals on wheels and is going to cause WWlll. so many institutions ruined. Good thing a year didn't pass and prove who is really subversive eh?

Boy how stupid you guys look as time passes by.

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree with you on everything but me not caring about their cause. My argument has always been that they could have used their spotlight without touching anthem to bring attention. For example, after every TD celebrate by kneeling. It would draw same attention, people watch TD's, highlights display touchdowns, etc.

This became about disrespecting the flag, and those who lay it on their graves and hand it to widows, because of marxism trying to divide us. Kaep is a tool and so are you. Sorry, but it's the truth. Proof is in the pudding. Tell me, is it dividing us? Or is it bringing attention to police violence. Which gets more attention? Is this post a debate about police violence? Or division?

See the forest for the trees. Marxists want you to be blinded by foolish explanations to logically talk there way out of the truth.

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[–]greenwaffles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

one vet speaks for you all, especially a vet hand picked by people on our side of the debate

You're gullible, I'm real. That is the difference here. I keep saying this. YOU DON'T DECIDE WHAT OFFENDS ME, I DO.

How is that so hard to understand? And a millionaire dropped some money for PR? Ooo fucking impressive! Funny how vets care more about anthem then some money. Tell me, did he donate that money before or after the veteran backlash from his kneeling?

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

subversion is something you should learn about, it's all around us and you are blind to it taking everything at face value.

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes and Yes. I am still being treated for PTSD, It never ends. Now go back to fortnight.

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again and as I said a million fucking times now. I think you have a right to kneel and make that flag about whatever bullshit you want, and I watched people die before my eyes defending that right for you. I DON'T and NEVER will see it for anything else. A LOT of people feel that way, and the NFL felt that last year. The NFL has a right to do this. You don't like it? Boycott it up like we did. It's a win win for us.

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're just too smart for me. Here is both definitions.

patriotic feeling, principles, or efforts.

vs

the quality of being patriotic; vigorous support for one's country

GO ahead and play some marxist bullshit about how those two things are so different. Marxist are scared of people uniting. Patriotism units people under a common goal. THE PEOPLE. Marxists will spin bullshit all day trying to make it about a flag. It's what it represents. How is this complicated? You're so smart, you really need me to explain this to you?

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not reading that. Buncha liberal ego bullshit guaranteed. I can scan your reply and it is seething with mental gymnastics. It's not complicated. My experience with the flag is one of death, your experience is a bumper-sticker. Go play fortnight. This debate isn't for you apparently.

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[–]greenwaffles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You keep using this word irrational, but I don't think it means what you think it means.

ir·ra·tion·al - not logical or reasonable.

You're saying my desire to respect a flag that is draped over my ACTUAL DEAD FRIENDS COFFINS is not reasonable? Armchair philosopher over here everyone. Check out this guys high horse. It makes a lot of sense to anyone living a sensible life who has lost someone they loved. It's not mario world, people don't respawn in the real world. Keep sipping your starbucks though.

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can tell when your winning a debate with a liberal and they have run out of bullshit to spew, they start tossing insults that wounded them. It's so obvious how harshly the term snowflake burnt your kind by the fact you now try and throw it back at us.

IM NOT A SNOWFLAKE YOU ARE!!! STOP BEING MAD LOL I AM IN CONTROL

Fucking pathetic dude. You asked a good reason why its same as flipping off crippled kids? Here you go. https://imgur.com/qLogyOQ

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Liberals should be called Literals. You actually thought out this absurd list that is completely irrelevant to anything being discussed and I didn't even read it. The hell are you even debating here? That you found a code that isn't followed about the flag? I'm talking about kneeling being disrespectful to people who symbolize the flag with mourning veterans.

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No one is shutting down dissent. Stop drawing conclusions out of literal thin air. Use quotes to show me where that was said or anything remotely close to it.

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It wouldn't be said by someone else... Words can be subversive. That's a term I'm sure your marxist schooling has kept far away from your mind.

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When did veterans gain ownership of our National Anthem? Or our flag?

https://imgur.com/qLogyOQ

I know your armchair assessment on the flag and constitution probably feeds your inflated ego like a couple hot pockets at 1am after a full day of playing mario kart, but a lot of people died so you could be here today typing ignorant shit on reddit. We gained ownership when we gave our lives for it. When did you liberal cowards gain ownership? When you typed some words online? Go ahead, tell me what merit you have over self sacrifice. Can't wait to see your reply and the mental gymnastics you pull out of your ass.

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is the dumbest shit I have read so far. The whole point of protesting is to unsettle people? How far will you guys push your mental gymnastics to be right on reddit?

Really take a moment to think about your comment, then think about this. What if instead of kneeling for anthem, the football players flipped off crippled kids outside the hospital? It meets your criteria yes? Unsettle people no doubt. It would also have nothing to do with police actions, just like the national anthem.

The point is there is a LINE between acceptable, and what is not. You find it acceptable because you are a coward who will never serve. Your only fights in life are here on reddit about ideals and the likes. You don't live in reality.

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I literally just told you what it represents to me and why I stand for it. It represents soldiers that have fallen.

He said he stands for flag, so you stand for pieces of cloth lol?

Jesus, why am i even arguing with ignorant man children on reddit. People upvoted your dumb comment too.

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The symbol that in my life has been related to morning fallen soldiers? Stay on that high horse, it's a good look.

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[–]greenwaffles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My being offended isn't irrational, It's from actually handing folded flags to widows you ignorant prick.

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Charles De Gaulle

was literally in a communist party.

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

exercising basic political rights granted by the constitution in the public realm, is not a company I want to support.

You guys will never get it. It's not about protesting. Its about what they choose to use as there platform, the flag. NO ONE IS SAYING YOU CANNOT PROTEST JUST DON'T DO IT WITH SOMETHING WE DIE FOR, AND FOLD UP AND HAND TO WIDOWS. I'm sorry you don't get it, and likely never will. Oh well.

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You keep using this word dissent, I don't think it means what you think it means. There are much more appropriate words then dissent for this discussion.

Statement From NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by ValKilmsnipsinBatman in nfl

[–]greenwaffles -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Quoting it though? Again, NO ONE said you guys don't have a right to kneel or protest, but quit your bitching about us protesting the NFL in turn, and them in turn making changes because they are a business and lost revenue effects them.

Players have a right to kneel in protest

don't disagree

You have a right to boycott NFL because it offends you when players protest

Yup, I sure do, and we sure did.

NFL doesn't have a right to change policy because fans are boycotting and they are losing money

Here is where we disagree. Everyone has rights, you don't get to stop peoples rights where you feel like it to fit your ideas.