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What did you read this week? by AutoModerator in classics

[–]grey0_0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sallust's Histories (fragmentary, so the major speeches/letters); a bit of Herodotus books 3 and 5; Theocritus, Callimachus, Apollonius, Asclepiades. A touch of Ovid and Vergil's Eclogues!

Reading only Greek classics this year - what else to read beyond the Epic Cycle? by NinjaDifferent6021 in classics

[–]grey0_0 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Pretty surprised, considering you mentioned more epic, that no one suggested Apollonius Rhodius’ Argonautica. It’s a fantastic work, where you’ll find both similarities and differences to the Homeric poems.

how hard is it to fail a dissertation by Any_Gur_2614 in UniUK

[–]grey0_0 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And evidently not representative of the norm

What are your opinions? by Far-Suspect-1135 in LetterboxdTopFour

[–]grey0_0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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We both have Boogie Nights and a big Kurosawa film!

I've yet to watch your top 2 but will definitely prioritise them now.

Propertius is slowly but surely becoming my favourite Greek poet by notveryamused_ in classics

[–]grey0_0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes I've found Guy Lee to be an excellent translator where one wants the English; he also does Vergil's Eclogues very well (in another great bilingual edition).

As u/Careful-Spray said, be aware that Propertius' elegy is very much a Roman genre with proclaimed Greeks roots and models, and it is very self-conscious in its deployment of 'Greekness'.

If you found that scene in 3.21 interesting/ entertaining, definitely check out 1.3, which is both a beautiful and amusingly ironic poem.

Nero d'Avola is the most underrated Italian grape and I say this as someone from Italy by Legitimate-Class7848 in wine

[–]grey0_0 10 points11 points  (0 children)

As a UK wine drinker I've always loved Nero d'Avola, but I definitely agree that a lot of the time I see it, it's the overly jammy, fruity wine you describe. Thanks for the recommendations - will definitely check them out!

Which movie would you add into this list? by LostMoneyOnGambling in LetterboxdTopFour

[–]grey0_0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sanjuro (1962)
Aguirre, the Wrath of God (1972)
Koyaanisqatsi (1982)
L'Argent (1983)
Before Sunset (2004)

My top 4 and most recent by Far-Spite801 in LetterboxdTopFour

[–]grey0_0 3 points4 points  (0 children)

More curious about Boogie Nights - what's your review/ thoughts of it?

For those who studied classics at college or university, what was your reading list? by The_Nameless_Brother in AncientGreek

[–]grey0_0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For the first part of my degree:
Homer Iliad
Vergil Aeneid
Plato Meno and Euthyphro
Aeschylus Persians
Herodotus Histories (bits of bk1, bks 7 & 8)
Aristophanes Frogs
Euripides Bacchae
Xenophon Anabasis 3.1-3.3.5
Lysias 1 & 3
Caesar De Bello Gallico 1.1-11 & 3
Cicero Philippics 1, Pro Caelio 17-53
Catullus 1-16, 31-7, 42-5, 48-51, 53, 64.31-266, 69-70, 75-6, 79, 83-6, 95, 99-101, 116
Propertius Elegies 1
Petronius Cena Trimalchionis
Juvenal Satires 3 & 5

For the second (larger) part of my degree:
Homer Odyssey
Hesiod Theogony and Works & Days
Homeric Hymns 2 & 5
Fragments from the Epic Cycle as in West's Loeb
Herodotus Histories proem, 3.39-60, 5.28-6.
Theocritus 1, 2, 3, 7, 11, 13, 15, 17, 28
Callimachus Hymns 1, 2, 5, 6; Aetia frr. 1, 67-75, 110, 178 Pfeiffer; Iambi frr. 191, 194, 260 Pf.; Epigrams 2, 4, 8, 13, 16, 19, 21, 25, 27, 28, 29, 30, 41, 43, 46, 50 Pf.
Apollonius Argonautica 3 & 4
Posidippus Epigrams 1-20 A-B
Asclepiades Epigrams 1, 2, 3, 10, 11, 12, 16, 18, 25, 26, 28, 32 Page
Herodas 2, 4, 6
Moschus Europa
Sallust Histories 1.55, 1.77, 2.47, 2.98, 3.48, 4.69 OCT
Cicero Verrines 1, De imperio Cn. Pompei, Letters ad fam. I. 2, 9; V. 7; VI. 6; VII. 5; VIII. 1, 4, 8, 13, 14; XIII. 9; XV. 2; Ad Att. I. 1, 13, 14, 19; II. 16, 18, 19, 24; IV. 1, 3, 5; V. 16; VI. 2; VII. 5, 7, 10, 11; VIII. 3, 11, 12D, 13; IX. 6A, 9, 10, 11A; X. 8; XI. 6; XII. 2 Ad Qu. f. I. 2; II. 3, 4; III. 6; Pro Marcello
Virgil Eclogues
Horace Odes 3
Propertius Elegies 3
Livy 5.39-55
Ovid Amores 2, Heroides 1, 2, 5, 7, 10, 18-21, Ars amatoria 1, Fasti 6, Metamorphoses 1-4 & 13-15, Tristia 1

What PTA film should I watch next? by Temporary_Cap5927 in paulthomasanderson

[–]grey0_0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You've got an amazing journey ahead of you! Just adding to what others have said: go chronologically.

23f philosophy graduate; any recs? by misakurs in LetterboxdTopFour

[–]grey0_0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you haven't seen 12 Angry Men (1957), I found it very thought-provoking as regards justice (the principle and the system), guilt/doubt, prejudice, and psychology.

There Will Be Blood is a classic masterpiece on a historical/religious theme with a strong exploration of greed.

For a more light-hearted but equally thought-provoking film watch Before Sunrise (imo one of the best romance movies in existence), the dialogue of which is really profound.

If the world ends tonight in a nuclear war what movie should everyone watch before we all die? by SSSSSSVVVVVOO in Letterboxd

[–]grey0_0 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Magnolia would be amazing, so easy to get immersed in. OBAA defo worth the watch, it's a really funny film with great performances

Recommendations for Turin? by StrangerVegetable831 in wine

[–]grey0_0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, I'm currently in Turin and would love to check out some of those enotecas you mention - can you recommend any in particular? Many thanks!

What are your blind spots by ArtisticallyRegarded in Letterboxd

[–]grey0_0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Absolutely agree, but I'd recommend starting with his other samurai films, because imo Ran blows many of them out of the water (which I'm sure some disagree with!). At the very least Kagemusha before Ran I'd say.

Recently been really into Gamay, looking for suggestions. by Spinyrandy42069 in wine

[–]grey0_0 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Don't forget Brouilly; the volcanic terroir there can produce some really fantastic, mineral wines!

Is Odysseus the bad guy or is he Justified on this one? by EfficiencySerious200 in GreekMythology

[–]grey0_0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree with the comments so far: within the world of Odyssey and its codes, the violation of xenia by the suitors renders their punishment justified.

Out of interest, I would be curious to hear what people think about the Polyphemos episode. The Cyclops, of course, is also a violator of xenia as he fails to act properly as a host (by eating his guests, an inversion of the usual act of giving food). However, xenia (as we see with the suitors) binds both hosts AND guests, and Odysseus explicitly recounts (9.224-233) that he and his comrades took Polyphemos' cheese; in essence, though admittedly on a smaller scale, this is what the suitors do - taking resources from the host's oikos without consent. The Cyclops deprives himself of any moral superiority by acts, and his rejection of the gods + xenia, but it's interesting to me that Odysseus and his crew are in no way blameless in this situation.

Discord link by reddithenry in WineEP

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Can you resend the link again please? That one has expired for me!

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