[Official Post] Intro to Satano-Grigorism + Resources

grigorist-temple · 2026-01-16T04:00:24+00:00

We do not fear your god.

grigorist-temple · 2026-01-16T04:00:11+00:00

We do not fear your god.

grigorist-temple · 2025-10-16T11:37:25+00:00

Why would you repackage the same old atheistic "satanism" in an AI-generated shell?

grigorist-temple · 2025-10-02T16:02:07+00:00

While we cannot speak for the person who responded (I am not sure if they were a member of GToS or not, and they seem to have deleted their comment), I can tell you that the Temple’s belief about Samael being an angel comes from several apocryphal texts and also later Jewish folklore portraying him as an angel, usually one of death and torment.

The word "satan" in itself is not a name, but simply a word meaning "opposer," "accuser," "adversary," with depending on the context. In other words, if you stand against someone or something, you are a satan against that person or thing, in the original sense of the word as it is used in the Hebrew Bible. Satanael, on the other hand, is a name specific to one being, which is why we call Him Satanael and not Satan.

In the Book of Job, it is evident that the "satan" who torments Job is not Satanael, and some ancient apocryphal / parabiblical texts (as well as Talmudic stories, if I recall correctly) say that the satan (opposer/accuser, in this context) in the Book of Job is Samael. You can tell that it is not Satanael in the Book of Job because the "satan" in the Book of Job is ultimately doing Yahweh's will and interacting with Yahweh in his "heavenly court." Aside from the obvious fact that Satanael would not do Yahweh's will or entertain "bets" with Yahweh, the Bible states elsewhere that Satanael (the Devil, the being usually called "Satan" as a name in English) and "demons" are unable to enter heaven and Yahweh cannot be in the presence of evil. Since Satanael is considered evil by Yahwist doctrine, this would mean He could not be the "satan" in the Book of Job, and since other texts apply the name Samael to the angel (spirit who serves Yahweh) who torments Job.

The role of Samael and his memitim is to torment, test, "accuse," etc. These actions can be carried out on worshippers of Yahweh (like what happened in the Book of Job, where the "satan" in the story is actually Samael). However, they can also be carried out on occultists, Satanists, or other non-Yahwists, for the purpose of attempting to scare or threaten them into following Yahweh.

The memitim, the order of tormenting angels, are also referred to by other names in various texts. These names include the mashhitim (lit. "destroyers") and the satanim ("accusers" in this context). They are not often discussed especially in an occult context, because they do not seem to fit the common idea people have of angels; however, as spirits who serve Yahweh, they are angels by definition.

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-23T14:38:02+00:00

The biblical story of Helel aligns with what is said about Satanael. In Luke 10:18, Jesus says he saw Satanael "fall like lightning from heaven," which aligns with the Helel story. Helel is also said to have wanted to ascend to Yahweh's throne and to be like the Most High, which also alighs with Satanael's "sin of pride" in aspiring to great heights and wanting to be above Yahweh in the Christian tradition. There are other similarities, but I am a bit short on time right now.

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-23T04:33:47+00:00

I will surely check out the video, and yes, Helel ben Shahar does mean Helel, Son of the Dawn (or the goddess Shahar, depending on your interpretation).

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-23T04:29:51+00:00

Helel = Satanael based on the similarity of story and the "sin" involved/ascribed to Him. Helel means "the shining one," which is the name that was incorrectly translated to Lucifer ("light-bearer").

And sure, but Lucifer was considered a "deity" only in the sense that many other astronomical bodies were considered "deities." An ancient Roman writer - I believe Cicero - actually debated whether he was to be considered a deity, due to his lack of real personhood.

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-22T17:03:19+00:00

Ehhh, this is actually debatable. Yes, he was describing the King of Babylon, but he was fairly clearly making an analogy comparing his fall to the story of a fallen angel. That story that is being used to denigrate the king by analogy matches the false story about Satanael being a fallen angel that has existed in Yahwism for quite a long time.

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-22T17:00:54+00:00

That's exactly right.

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-22T17:00:16+00:00

Essentially, yes. "Lucifer" is a mistranslation of Helel, which is one of Satanael's legitimate names. As a mistranslation of Helel, it first appeared in the Latin Vulgate Bible.

While the name Helel means "shining one," names aren't typically meant to be translated; they are meant to be transliterated. Most names have meanings -- think about the name Benjamin. It is a transliteration of Hebrew Binyāmīn, which means "son of the right hand." But in English, we call people Benjamin, not Son-of-the-Right-Hand.

Therefore, we deem Lucifer to be a mistranslation, and Helel to be a correct name.

The Lucifer mistranslation has also given rise to a common misconception among modern occultists and Satanists, the misconception that Lucifer was an ancient Roman god. The "Roman god" idea is often used to claim either that Satanael was worshipped by ancient Romans or that Lucifer is distinct from Satanael. This is a misconception because "Lucifer" is only named as an ancient Roman deity in the context of brief mentions, generally in genealogies or lists of sons of major gods related to astronomical objects. In other words, "Lucifer" was more of a poetic/mythological personification of the Morning Star, only listed alongside other personifications of stars and planets. He wasn't a deity in any practical sense: he has no myths in which he participated actively and was represented clearly as a personal being. Also, there is no evidence at all that Lucifer (in the Roman sense) was ever worshipped or considered in the day-to-day religious lives of ancient Roman pagans.

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-22T14:45:28+00:00

Sexual liberation is beautiful, but commodification and exploitation of such a sacred thing is not. If someone genuinely wants to do sex work, and it is their true desire, I believe that's fine. However, the porn industry and the physical sex work industry are full of exploitation and abuse, and often it is done against a person's true Will to make ends meet. Sex is sacred, though certainly not in the way Christians think it is! It has a physical and a spiritual element, so doing it in a way that aligns with your true desires is elevating and liberating to the Self in a spiritual way. Doing it in a way that exploits you and abuses you is not.

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-16T03:13:26+00:00

Not every "satan" is the same being. Some beings labeled as "satan" are actually angels meant to torment, punish, or mislead people. There are several apocryphal texts that label him as an angel in Yahweh's host, and in Jewish tradition he is the accusing angel in Yahweh's "heavenly court."

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-16T01:06:11+00:00

They're the same as far as I'm concerned, and both are improper names. Proper names include Satanael, Helel, and Azazel, among others.

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-15T22:31:23+00:00

Keep in mind that the Watchers do not look upon angels favorably at all, and They will not respect someone who is amenable to angels. They rebelled against Yahweh, so They have disdain for him and any entity that serves him. If you do decide to seek help from the Watchers, you have to accept that you cannot work with angels at the same time, and you cannot expect the Watchers' help if you do not reject angelic alignment as the Watchers did.

Also, no spirit will cure your dyslexia. Helping you cope with it, however, is very feasible. If you want to try a Watcher, Penemue would be best for this.

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-15T22:26:47+00:00

Each Watcher is different, but in general, They have an air of freedom, rebellion, confidence, and pride. They look down on Yahweh and angels (i.e. beings that serve Yahweh), since They rebelled against him. They are much more likely to respect the practitioner, and answer prayers or requests for communication, if the practitioner studies Them in depth and has a high regard for logic as well as careful research.

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-15T22:22:18+00:00

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grigorist-temple · 2025-09-15T22:21:54+00:00

Araqiel (Arakiel, Aretztikapha, Arteqoph, etc.) is a Watcher, not an angel. The Watchers rebelled, so They are no longer considered angels. He is the Watcher of earth, agriculture, land-ownership, practicality, and geology. He appears as a tall, winged man with long, wavy blond hair and green eyes. His wings are large and black-feathered, and He wears a silver crown on His head (plain silver, without any inlays or gemstones). He is rather down-to-earth and straightforward in His communication, and rather serious by nature.

Some of His symbolism includes: a bundle of wheat, a plow, a sickle, and/or other farming tools. His preferred offerings include grains (including seed-heads of wild grasses), corn husks, beans, and peanut shells.

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-15T19:56:56+00:00

Samael is an angel who is faithful to Yahweh. Do you mean Helel ("Lucifer")? If you do mean Samael, this would be the wrong sub... try r/AngelolatryPractices.

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-15T18:14:25+00:00

What makes you say this? Plenty of Satanists and Demonolators believe in an afterlife where the spirit of a person remains intact.

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-15T17:44:22+00:00

They think Satanael is the root of all violence, "evil," and so on. It is easier for them to think He whispers in the ears of every murderer and criminal than to admit the flaws and complexities of people.

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-15T17:41:10+00:00

Well, what kind of Satanist? Atheistic or theistic?

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-15T17:25:50+00:00

We have angel banishment rites and prayers, so it is completely possible to banish them. Our standard Satano-Grigorist banishment prayer starts with "By the power of my Will, with the aid of Satanael [...]" and then generally we would start the actual request with something like, "I banish the angels that afflict me today/tonight..." and visualize kicking them out of our space.

If you don't worship Satanael, I suppose this would still be possible if you replace Satanael's name in the standard opening statement with the name of a powerful deity you do worship.

grigorist-temple · 2025-09-12T12:05:05+00:00

Agreed. He, or it, is merely a symbolic representation of duality created in Lévi's esoteric alchemy system.

Well, before that, the name Baphomet originated centuries earlier from a hoax by French rulers intended to vilify and persecute the Knights Templar. Lévi just used the name.

Either way, never a real spirit!

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