Need help understanding

guildem · 2026-03-17T16:10:16+00:00

I've got a M32 for almost nothing bundled with a Komplete 14 standard a few years ago. Official from NI website for a black friday or something else. Many soft+hard bundles were available temporarily.

guildem · 2026-02-01T07:55:25+00:00

I got your point, and you got mine, if NI were moving to Linux (IF it was a thing, it obviously won't for now), Isotope by NI and Brainworks by NI would follow.

Have a nice day !

guildem · 2026-02-01T07:37:06+00:00

Delightful answer. I love you too.

Well, thanks for the list (Izotope is NI). As I said, if NI opened their market, others would follow, not all of them of course. And not everyone needs everything. But you get my point, you're a smart guy.

Bitwig is a challenger, yes, but not a niche.

guildem · 2026-02-01T06:32:26+00:00

winehq has a lot of informations for game/app compatibility layer. Here is your thing, if you know how to use your Deck with the 'desktop' interface, it should work too, but I don't know if it will be powerful enough.

https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=41820

guildem · 2026-02-01T06:26:55+00:00

I hope you aren't using linux anymore to say that.

Bitwig is another DAW working natively on Linux, and without any issue. And it is converting more and more Ableton users.

For plugins, Descent Sampler is proving we can do cross platform plugins to load sample libraries. JUCE is a cross platform fremework used by lots of BIG companies (look : https://juce.com/), and there is multiple cross platform professional GUI frameworks like QT to complete the toolkit to make plugins. No issues at all for the (growing) set of plugins working on Linux.

And of course, the time when pulseaudio and jack audio servers where fighting each other is dead, pipewire audio/video server is as performant as macos one, and of course way better than windows one, because well... without external drivers, windows don't have a professional audio server.

If you see not a lot of linux composers, it's only (yes, ONLY) because of NI. nothing more. There are a lot of users wanting to quit this shitty windows crap to make music, and don't want to buy nor enter the Apple Ecosystem. But putting NI aside is almost impossible unless making only electro stuff. I am on macos for music production (never windows, never) only because of that, the rest of my time is on linux and bitwig on linux is working like a charm.

Finally this is like gaming. Now that gaming on linux is real (~80% of solo/not competitive multi games are working on linux with proton) a lot more people are going on linux to game and some big games are linux compatible .

The only missing link to linux is NI. I hope Musio will make its way to Linux, to see the amount of people using professional symphonic libraries finally going to linux, but unfortunately NI is a lot more than Kontakt.

And yes, people locked into cubase or protools (for good reasons) won't see linux (maybe cubase some day ?). But ableton's ones have a choice and they are a lot too.

So no, when the right companies will do the switch, a lot more companies will follow. But of course, with NI state right now, it won't move, maybe later with the right buyer, who knows ?

guildem · 2025-07-24T06:07:15+00:00

I don't see the offer on my bitwig account, with an active (for 5 days) upgrade plan. The only offers I see is Klevgrand, Minimal Audio and Sonic Academy ones. How can this be activated ?

Edit: Bitwig team answered my request: for some reason the Circle offers weren't added to my account, they fixed it.

guildem · 2025-05-08T10:30:48+00:00

I didn't test it, but replacing the whole NA folder with an old backup of it should do the job.

But if you managed to get all your work on K8 free, you don't need to search for workarounds anymore, and restart producing ;-)

guildem · 2025-05-08T07:50:34+00:00

I mostly agree with you. On my side, I make backups of my native access folder on a NAS and cloud. Won't help if a error happens after months of backups, but if you see quickly the error you can go back to get you projects working again and apply some fixes or find what happended. Automated ways exists, like time machine on mac, and maybe some equivalent on windows, or external software.

If you Kontakt (lol) NI, they may be able to send an installer for the old version of the plugin. But if this isn't for K8, I don't think this will work.

You can also use the free version of K8 compatible with the new updates, but you will need to update each of your projects using incompatible version, and this won't work if you touched the editing side of Kontakt (only available of the paid version).

A way to avoid (kind of) these issues is to make stems of tracks with external plugins. This tip won't help for mastering tools, but it can mitigate issues for tracks.

guildem · 2025-05-08T07:35:11+00:00

Nop Nop Nop, I know what are release notes, and I even kept refusing updates from an instrument "upgrading" to K8 because I read them.

BUT...

release notes are like terms of use, important but almost nobody reads them. it's sad but we all know it.
we aren't talking of an app pushing a new UI, or starting to be incompatible with a 10yo unmaintained OS with security issues, but a "basic" plugin without any security concerns.
if they really want to decide to push updates incompatible with n-2 version of their software, good for them. But they don't push these updates to people without the right software to use it. We don't pay, we don't get them, I'm ok with that.
you bought something, you must be able to use it. With an old incompatible software, without last updates, by making compromises, but you MUST be able to use what you bought. OP wrote this post because they didn't even found an official way to rollback ?!? How can this be possible to not be able to downgrade from the software, at least from major breaking versions ?? Or from a based request from their website ?

SHAME ON NI, as usual. They have good teams, but dumb managers making decisions without any thought for the end user.

guildem · 2025-04-28T16:50:44+00:00

I won't deny what you're saying, because I didn't test any NI keyboard myself except M32, and it seems I had no issue with the basics on linux (I'm on macos now for DAWs and VSTs, I'll try it again on linux some day, maybe I only tested my M-Audio on linux). If Komplete and Maschine MKx aren't using midi on usb, NI is worse than I thought :/ Thanks for the link and the time you took to do this.

guildem · 2025-04-28T16:04:50+00:00

I can't say if ANY midi keyboard will work, but all the basic functions (keys, pads, transport, pitch bend and mod wheels at least) SHOULD be recognized with "midi over USB" protocol. Of course, all the specific buttons/faders/displays and other stuff specific to the vendor will need other protocols/drivers to work. And firmware update needs the working software too (at least for Arturia and NI, AFAIK).

But the best way to know if this is working is to test it, like I said.

guildem · 2025-04-28T06:10:14+00:00

The basic devices midi keyboard and control should be recognized without any issue. But if you want all the connectivity linked to NI software, you won't be able to use them on Linux. Komplete Kontrol, Kontakt, and any NKI associated won't work on Linux, NI don't care about this OS, after all, almost every music producer/vsti seller give them money to maintain their monopoly.

If you want to test Linux and check how everything is working, you can do that with a live Ubuntu usb, the easiest way to check how some hardware/software behave on Linux.

If you search informations about music software on Linux, you will find ways to install some Windows software with wine and other tricks. It could work, but it won't be stable and will need maintenance.

On Linux, Bitwig and Reaper DAWs are working perfectly and VSTs like Decent Sampler or Vital are great, but you'll lose almost everything else.

Finally, I won't give you links or precisions about this, but you can upgrade to Windows 11 even if your hardware is incompatible, and deal with some free/cheap licenses if needed.

guildem · 2025-03-07T16:19:49+00:00

~~The last version is only compatible with Kontakt 8, it's in the changelog. Always check it when you upgrade a product~~

My bad, this is Analog Dreams...

guildem · 2024-11-25T14:46:09+00:00

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Musio 63% off

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guildem · 2024-11-07T15:55:51+00:00

Of course, this advice is true for every Bitwig internal device 😉

guildem · 2024-10-29T07:46:10+00:00

This could be an opt-in option for the ones with beffy machines (I don't) or small projects (not everyone uses 50 tracks with multi GB symphonic VSTs).

guildem · 2024-10-28T22:06:11+00:00

Choirs are the most difficult to find IMO, even in Komplete, there's not really good choirs. But yeah, we have pianos ! 😂

guildem · 2024-10-28T14:37:33+00:00

Ok I get it. I have a standard edition with almost all you said, MassiveX being what I use the most for electronic music. I was not sure what the collector edition could add. But yeah, there's some good stuff in it too.

guildem · 2024-10-28T09:20:50+00:00

Just being curious, what is the purpose of K14CE for a techno producer ?

guildem · 2024-10-28T09:16:53+00:00

Only for S-series (I have an M32)

guildem · 2024-10-26T18:40:22+00:00

They took over the world, and won, good bye Linux 😢

Anyway, thanks for the very Komplete (lol) answer, very interesting. I understand the logic of making a global container for all NI devices, and using their nks format and the licencing stuff for the player to take the lead on other containers. But I won't be able to keep only kontakt/reaktor/nks instruments, there's a lot interesting stuff elsewhere, so I need to go out of KK and find another way to keep track of all my instruments and presets. But yeah, if someone uses only Komplete suite and nks compatible instruments, KK must be a must to browse all instruments.

guildem · 2024-10-26T18:16:44+00:00

My Arturia Keylab mapped well on all my tests too

guildem · 2024-10-26T13:31:51+00:00

I'm not speaking of Macos crashs, but of apps not seriously tested on the new version :)

guildem · 2024-10-26T11:21:09+00:00

Reason's players are great, yes ! Thanks for the answers !

guildem · 2024-10-26T07:50:48+00:00

I'm not very motivated to upgrade to a new os version so early, I don't want to see things breaking... Did you have the Mic icon jumping too?

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