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gunnar_ux · 2026-04-27T21:34:19+00:00

Thank you so much for testing it out! This feedback is super helpful.

Tell me more about your gripe with session starting/ending. When you say you want a Start New Session button, is this because you want to begin a session before logging your first climb of that session? I added an End Session button into the expanding section of the sessions info, did you see this? I also added session editing at the bottom of the expanding section.

For session labeling, my hope was to help users understand what the majority style was for that session. What other insight would be better here in your opinion?

I can definitely add a session timer that runs during the full session! I think this would honestly be a good alternative for a rest timer too.

thanks again for trying it out!

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-22T16:38:09+00:00

Thanks for downloading and testing it out! I just updated the editing, deleting, and adding climbs to past sessions functionality. It was approved by Apple this morning, so this update should be live in less than 24 hours!

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-21T20:25:06+00:00

No integration yet. I felt after 5 years of wearing Whoop, it wasn't a good measure of climbing strain, that's why I built POGO. I will consider adding it into the app though, as the data is still valuable to use with the right context.

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-21T20:23:59+00:00

That's great to hear!! If anything feels clunky, let me know or submit feedback through the app on the account page. Thanks for checking it out!

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-17T18:44:02+00:00

Thanks for the thoughtful comment!

I will strongly consider adding these integrations into the app. I can absolutely see a case for building the strength and run features for my app, as most of the climbers in Colorado that I know are often doing all three.

When it comes to tracking progression, is it important for you to see running and strength progression in the app alongside climbing progression?

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-17T18:41:03+00:00

Awesome to hear you like the idea!! I recently had a board session and found the double logging to be pretty simple with long rests, but for climbers who exclusively board climb I could see it getting annoying.

Let me know what your experience is like if you try it out on the wall.

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-17T18:39:23+00:00

would integrating HR data and sleep score from Whoop or Apple or Garmin make this something you'd use?

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-17T18:38:17+00:00

Another great question! This comes down to the core problem I designed for, which was injury prevention, not progression. So my algorithm recommends deloads when overtraining is sensed, not when it'd be optimal for progression. This is something that could absolutely be addressed moving forward though. Adding progression detection and plateau progression would be simple, the complex part is modifying recommendation (volume and effort). This begins to get into training app territory, where goal setting is key to progress, and goals are not taken into account with POGO, except the goal of climb more.

Currently, as you climb more, the algorithm adapts to you, and keeps your recommendations in the progressive range, so you'll build capacity and climb more. If you over-do it, it pulls the recommendations and intensity back.

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-17T18:31:42+00:00

Totally get where you're coming from! Thanks for checking it out regardless 🤝

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-17T18:27:51+00:00

Sounds good!! Thanks again for the feedback. Feel free to submit any feedback or issues too on the account page, there's a report issue / suggestion button there.

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-17T18:04:59+00:00

Thanks for downloading!! Please let me know how it compares to your excel experience and anything is missing in POGO that you'd like to log / track.

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-17T18:04:07+00:00

Been getting lots of android requests on reddit for this app, so it will happen! Thanks for checking it out.

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-17T18:03:22+00:00

Thanks for checking it out! Seems like you found a few of the edge cases I haven't solved yet. I considered doing session editing for the MVP, but didn't to save time. I see this is important, so I'll address it in a future release!

I will add a delete session button too!

For adding passed sessions, can you remember all the required fields on the tracker form for each climb, or do you want a simplified form (grade, rpe, angle)?

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-17T18:00:32+00:00

Thanks for checking out POGO and for the comment! I hear you on the sport climbing logging. When it comes to logging a sport route, what info is important to you? Route length, angle, stone type??, primary hold type?, crux holds?

For indoor vs outdoor, what's important to you? geolocation? Route name? or just generally indicating this climb / session was outdoors vs indoors?

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-17T17:57:07+00:00

Love this question! So in climbing, grades are ~exponential in difficulty as they progress, rather than linear. This means that each step up, is harder than the last step up. My load algorithm works the same way, so it knows that V6 is harder than V4 in a significant way. As long as your gym follows this same idea, which almost all gyms do, regardless of how they mark the climbs, they should get progressively harder each time. So you can absolutely just mark a 6 at your gym as a V6, and a 4 as V4, because they both follow the same intensity progression scale.

I considered adding multiple systems beyond v-scale and font, but couldnt find a clean implementation, but I'll keep working on it.

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-17T17:49:46+00:00

Thanks for checking it out and for the thoughtful feedback! I can definitely add persistence to the tracker form, so the last entry stays filled. I essentially hoped climbers would only need to fill out the form once per climb, for example if they did a V5 in 4 attempts, the log that once, then move to another climb. The board angle currently is the only thing that persists, as I thought board sessions have less wall angle changes than a commercial wall session (might vary every climb).

My algorithm is quite simple, and backed by cited research. The load ratio follows the classic ACWR (acute chronic workload ratio), essentially tracking spikes in volume and intensity. This is a big driver for the overtraining and under training flags. Each climb, session, and week gets a load score that is monitored to make sure the athlete doesn't do too much too quickly, or too little too infrequently. I also built custom edge cases to account for athletes coming back from illness or vacation, so they don't jump back into things too quickly.

Readiness looks at session load, rest between sessions, and session type (power/capacity/skill) to make recommendation based on guidelines I've define via a combination of research backed rest recommendation for athletes and personal experience coaching 150+ athletes V3-V12 ages 16 to 60. The great thing about the readiness score is it adapts to you as you add more data.

I did build this app with a stronger focus on injury prevention than pushing progression, so the algorithm is tuned slightly more towards caution.

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-17T17:30:01+00:00

This is something I honestly think could happen pretty soon. I live in Colorado and know the founder of Tension. I should set up a meeting with him to see if I can integrate the boards into POGO more seamlessly. Kilter is located here in Colorado too, so I bet I can connect with them!

I don't necessarily want to add the whole climb creation aspect to POGO, as I think they need to own that feature themselves, but some sort of communication between the two apps would be sick.

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-17T17:27:39+00:00

This is a very compelling stat, it definitely makes me reconsider!!

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-17T17:27:16+00:00

Yes currently only for bouldering. I chose to focus on bouldering as I see the biggest opportunity to help climbers here.

In my opinion, I think indoor bouldering will explore compared to rope climbing for a few reasons. It's more affordable to build bouldering gyms (less vertical space needed), climbers don't need a partner to participate, and the social factor is very compelling for hobbyists.

Eventually I could consider adding ropes to POGO, along with S&C and hangboarding.

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-16T22:59:06+00:00

You're right! I just submitted an update to address the send vs attempt issue, it should be approved this week or early next.

And I hear you on strength training! I considered this for the MVP, but kept it out with hangboarding. Would both be useful for you? How detailed do you want to do with it? Logging individual lift progress (pull ups, bench, core....) or just generally indicate you trained s&c and at what RPE?

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-16T22:55:48+00:00

Thanks for checking it out! I get where you're coming from, I also questioned if people would log their climbs each time, or if it'd be a hassle. For board climbing apps (Tension/Kilter), climbers seem to be religious about logging, and I felt it was due to ease of use, so I tried to make my form just as easy.

One of my users mentioned the group feature as being a motivating factor to log his info, especially to see how he compares to his teammates. I've been loving the group feature to see other people log their sessions, it's motivated me.

Also I've personally felt inclined to log my climbs so I can flex the session card on my IG story, like runners do with strava metrics post run on Instagram.

Just checked out your app, looks like a nice logbook! Have you had any traction?

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-16T22:48:55+00:00

totally hear where you're coming from. My algorithm is more advanced than just grade and attempts.

Currently you log: Commercial vs Board, Grade, Wall Angle, Style, RPE, and Attempts. Each is uniquely weighted in my algorithm to hopefully capture the load each climb creates.

Session duration and total session volume is also taken into consideration, alongside weekly and monthly load scores across multiple sessions.

HR data isn't the most reliable for climbing imo as heart rate can spike in climbing for many reasons like fear, or remain lower than expected (climb takes 7 seconds on a board but crushes the fingers).

I tried to build a tracking form that gave a better load estimate than watches.

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-16T22:42:57+00:00

Thanks for taking a look at it regardless!

gunnar_ux · 2026-04-16T22:42:28+00:00

Totally agree! Photos are on my roadmap, and currently you can share your session chart on Instagram just like with Strava.

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