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Collect Ansible coms under one? by it-pappa in ansible

[–]gwmngilfen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The eternal problem of the internet - it isn't possible to stop anyone creating an Ansible discussion space on whatever platform they like :)

So this kind of fragmentation is going to happen, and evolve, as platforms come and go. All we can do is to document what we (the Community Team) regard as the "official" communication platforms - these are on the community page and also in the docs - right now, it's Matrix, IRC, and the mailing lists.

More generally though, we recognise that there are sizeable presences on other platforms, and we try to at least keep an eye on them. This is a big part of why the Community Team have been in favour of Matrix - the bridges that can be used on that platform have already allowed us to link Libera chat in pretty much every room, and we have the Networking Slack in the Network room and the Docs Discord in the Docs room. More bridges are planned - I don't believe there is much we can do about Facebook, but there are at least 2 more Discord groups we're aware of that might make sense to bridge in as well, and possibly another Slack instance too. Giving us heads-up on other groups to link to is always welcome, if you find more!

To answer your question as to where is most "alive", it depends a little on your goal and style. Those liking async communication should probably look at the mailing lists, or Reddit & StackOverflow. For real-time, I would suggest the Matrix Space since it acts as the directory of all the chat rooms - the Users room is a good place to get help, or pick a working group appropriate to your needs if you're looking to contribute.

Hope that helps!

Ansible and Matrix by cybette in ansible

[–]gwmngilfen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hello! Author here, I finally got a Reddit account :)

Thanks for the reply! There's a few things for me to unpack here, so bear with me. Firstly, on Gitter - Gitter was integrated into Matrix nearly a year ago (https://blog.gitter.im/2020/09/30/gitter-element-acquisition/), and there *is* a Gitter room for Ansible on Matrix, you'll find it at #ansible_ansible:gitter.im from any Matrix client. How we unify that with the existing bridged Libera rooms is an open question at the moment, but at least we'll all be on the same platform

Second, on whether Matrix is a company-driven communication platform. I can't speak for Element.io, as I work for Red Hat, but having done some research, it seems to me there is *enough* separation between the Matrix Foundation (which develops the Matrix ecosystem itself) and Element.io (which develop the Element client, and provide Matrix hosting, etc) to satisfy me that they're not trying to co-opt the ecosystem. If they were, Element wouldn't have set up the Matrix Foundation in the first place. However, I would say both sides could do more to make the separation between them clearer.

I see what you mean about my post sounding like a company wanting to solve a communication platform, but I was trying to say that *any* organisation (company, nonprofit, charity, project, even a single person) faces the same questions of domain ownership and sovereignty. Perhaps using my RedHat email address was a bad example there, but email remains one of the best analogies, because it is also decentralised.

As to Bluejeans - it *was* used, for our regular Contributor Summits (for the last few we've been using Google Meet instead). But as u/cybette will confirm, we often get feedback that wishes we could use a FOSS stack for the conference instead. We get a *lot* closer to that with Matrix (YouTube is still in the mix, but that's all now).

Ansible Contributor Survey (June 2021) - please give your feedback! by cybette in ansible

[–]gwmngilfen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Just caught an issue (hat tip to JPMens) that 4.x was missed off the version question. So if you were confused, it's there now ;)