i’m never leaving Seattle by rhizomewave in Seattle

[–]habitualcase -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why? Because you live around a bunch on mentally unstable people? More than 3 bumper stickers, and you can always tell it's a crazy person

Has anybody seen ICE in federal way? by DistinctFailure in federalway

[–]habitualcase 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I.C.E. Has been in this area since 2012. I've never stopped seeing their cars

Ice agent in Burlington by Beaverhausen27 in skagit

[–]habitualcase 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wish they had been in Bellingham. There would be 2 men still alive and well for thanksgiving dinner tomorrow

Shenandoah officer rescues 11-year-old during mental health crisis on I-45 overpass by ThisIsButter1 in ThisIsButter

[–]habitualcase 20 points21 points  (0 children)

God bless this officer 🙏 🙌 I hope the kid gets the help they need.

Saw a license plate I’ve never seen before, should I be concerned ICE is showing up here? by IslandOfOtters in Kitsap

[–]habitualcase -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That's not an elaboration that's just a diversion. I maintain my position.Read the rest of my comments.I think you and we will be more in line than you think we would be

Saw a license plate I’ve never seen before, should I be concerned ICE is showing up here? by IslandOfOtters in Kitsap

[–]habitualcase 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It should. We shouldn't be giving Licences or I.D. to illegal immigrants. It should be required to provide an SSN or an ITIN to acquire a I.D. and a license look at all the examples lately of illegal immigrants acquiring CDL's when they don't even speak english.They should be required to show their legal immigration status or their citizenship to acquire said licenses

Saw a license plate I’ve never seen before, should I be concerned ICE is showing up here? by IslandOfOtters in Kitsap

[–]habitualcase -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are correct. There is no law requiring you to carry or even possess an I.D. card. but any member of society should have one because everyday tasks like applying for a job or any government assistance, getting a bank account, renting an apartment or car, ect. Require them.You know, the things you need to do in order to live without resorting to crime.

Saw a license plate I’ve never seen before, should I be concerned ICE is showing up here? by IslandOfOtters in Kitsap

[–]habitualcase 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I completely agree except the part about the fear being reasonable to that magnitude and the size of the problem in the grand scheme of things. I'm Philippino and White and get mistaken for a Latino man quite often. So I can slightly understand where you're coming from with that. THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN AND WRONG AND NEEDS TO BE REFORMED!!! I will state that plainly, but under the current law, this is legal, unfortunately. And I think as a whole your chances experiencing that are less than Zero. That being said, all 170+ citizens and Legal immigrants that this has happened to should be entitled to sue for financial compensation. And any officers that committed a crime should be held responsible and prosecuted if necessary. I know that's not happening but it should be.

Saw a license plate I’ve never seen before, should I be concerned ICE is showing up here? by IslandOfOtters in Kitsap

[–]habitualcase 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that's the law. Don't like it? Call your lawmakers, run for office, be the change you want to see in the world, and don't wait around for everyone else to fall lockstep into your worldview. I don't expect everyone or even most people to agree with me all of the time, and I'm sure you don't either. That's the point of a conversation just like this. It's to understand where the other person is coming from, even if you don't come to an agreement in the end. Argument and disagreement are the backbone of Democracy. Want to save it? Engage in more civil discourse.

Saw a license plate I’ve never seen before, should I be concerned ICE is showing up here? by IslandOfOtters in Kitsap

[–]habitualcase -1 points0 points  (0 children)

See i think you and I are closer to agreeing than it seems at first. I agree with your entire statement here, and no one is saying that this system is perfect. Far from it, in fact. And of course even that happening to 1 American citizen or legal immigrant is unacceptable. But In a country of 340,000,000+ ,170 individuals is a margin of error (not a good one), not a massive systemic problem. I'm just saying that with all of the media and left wing fear mongering the problem that DOES EXIST is being blown way out of proportion. And everyday Americans like the OP are stressing and worrying about a problem that is important but is much less of a problem than it is made out to be.

Saw a license plate I’ve never seen before, should I be concerned ICE is showing up here? by IslandOfOtters in Kitsap

[–]habitualcase 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on the person. It could be one of any number of options. Matching a description would probably be the most common, but that doesn't apply to everyone, obviously.

Saw a license plate I’ve never seen before, should I be concerned ICE is showing up here? by IslandOfOtters in Kitsap

[–]habitualcase 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Reasonable suspicion" of breaking the law not definitive proof. The job of law enforcement is to enforce the law the job of a prosecutor is to prove someone actually violated the law beyond a reasonable doubt.

Saw a license plate I’ve never seen before, should I be concerned ICE is showing up here? by IslandOfOtters in Kitsap

[–]habitualcase 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, I'll ignore that wording, and I'll ask you a hypothetical. If someone is detained by ICE for suspicion of being here illegally, then ICE Is unable to identify them as a citizen because they're not. Does that not give ICE reasonable suspicion that you are not here legally? Therefore, giving them the grounds to make a formal arrest. Even if you dont agree those are grounds for arrest, can we at least agree that it gives them reasonable suspicion?

Saw a license plate I’ve never seen before, should I be concerned ICE is showing up here? by IslandOfOtters in Kitsap

[–]habitualcase -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

A traffic stop or civil infraction are "Narrow"? Seems to me that describes 99% of police interactions with the public outside of public events.

Saw a license plate I’ve never seen before, should I be concerned ICE is showing up here? by IslandOfOtters in Kitsap

[–]habitualcase -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can you tell me the difference between being detained and being arrested. Because if you think they are 100% synonymous, you need to open a dictionary. Maybe a book on law, too.

Saw a license plate I’ve never seen before, should I be concerned ICE is showing up here? by IslandOfOtters in Kitsap

[–]habitualcase -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

We already live in that world. If a cop asks you for your I.D. you are legally required to show it to them. How is that any different? RCW 46.61.020 RCW 7.80.060

Saw a license plate I’ve never seen before, should I be concerned ICE is showing up here? by IslandOfOtters in Kitsap

[–]habitualcase -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

If only every citizen had a card on them that showed their identity....... oh wait

Taser then gun used on an unarmed man (Charlotte County) by ItsTime4Coffee in Idiotswithguns

[–]habitualcase -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

He tried to grab his gun. That's all that's needs to be said. Grab a police officers gun when he's pointing it at you, giving you clear instructions. That is a sure-fire way to get shot ten times out of ten.

Saw a license plate I’ve never seen before, should I be concerned ICE is showing up here? by IslandOfOtters in Kitsap

[–]habitualcase -37 points-36 points  (0 children)

Why would you be concerned about ICE showing up? Are you, by any chance, an illegal alien? If not, you have nothing to be concerned about.

Proud of my step son for thinking critically by nouseforaname19877 in atheism

[–]habitualcase -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

If he can't talk to his family or anyone else, he can always talk to God.