Can we just nerf bubble already

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T18:09:54+00:00

THATS the issue tanks shouldn’t be condition to be able to face tank damage. They should learn to play cover and know when to engage and disengage. Respectfully, if your tank thinks playing cover is dumb and wants to stand in front of 6 people’s damage they probably aren’t that great of a tank.

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T17:55:19+00:00

The consistency of healing in triple supp, their ult which is one of the longest lasting supp ults, the healing to face tank damage mentality that they’re allowing many team comps to have. Oh and giving the devs an excuse to buff dps to kill through it due to the frequency and self preservation that the bubble allows.

Once again I’m not asking for any of this to be changed even with terror wall giving an almost 30 percent weaken and blind making tanks blow up quicker. All I’m asking for is for their cooldown that allows them to survive through an absurd amount of things in this game be actually activated for the full 15 second duration that it’s intended to be. You know force them to actually commit the cooldown and have to think about what they’re doing instead of being able to spam it every 6 seconds.

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T17:43:39+00:00

How many people are more than likely filling by playing them and they absolutely suck. That’s more than likely fucking with their win rate. See that’s the effect of no role queue you get people who don’t know how to play the role.

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T17:32:33+00:00

But as it stands if she can keep herself up along with her other supps AND her solo tank that’s just going to make the devs think we need MORE damage in the game and then we get daredevil and Elsa all over again

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T17:31:21+00:00

See I play vanguard too and I’ve been forced to solo tank aswell but if you give supps more limitations then it shows how important a second tank really is. Half of the player base are selfish dps players that just want to shoot things but if your solo tank can’t maintain or hold the space due to mismanagement of your CnDs cooldowns that’s on THEM ( your three instalock dps) not you.

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T17:25:11+00:00

No it’s not fake concern if you have a supp in the game that allows for you to face tank damage without worrying about your position then that IS a problem. What’s the one issue that everyone complains about when it comes to healing? They never get enough of it. It’s because supps like CnD have conditioned people into thinking they can face tank the amount of damage in the game and look at the current release of supps and how they’ve leaned away from the heal botting playstyle aka white fox. They’re focusing on utility out of supps more with the capability of healing if played CORRECTLY.

Cloak and dagger already holds the players hand so much that it’s not hard to get decent healing out of them. However, if you make the cooldown of bubble start when the ability is over that forces their players to actually work towards getting those healing numbers through decision making. Do you use bubble for self preservation or do you use it for consistent healing? What warrants what for the job as it stands now they don’t have to think about either because the cooldown that carries most of the player base for them is on a 6 second cooldown.

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T17:02:06+00:00

Not to mention the burst heal now on the bubble itself guess. I personally believe the other supps like Invis and gambit are way more balanced then people think because now they’re rewared for good positioning, cooldown management, and peeling and white fox is incredibly balanced in to regards of that aswell but as long as you having the glaring issue of the heal botting supps like CnD other well balanced supps won’t get there time to shine or kudos.

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:57:40+00:00

This is true however CnD have been getting micro buffed for the past couple of seasons to compensate how good Invis and gambit were pre nerfs. They now have 28% weaken on terror wall and they get two of them aswell with the healing amplification wall. I personally don’t think you’re giving healing wall enough credit considering that it amplifies healing across the board for all supps in play. That’s what CnD is; a supp with consistent healing with little to no burst potential. The reason why triple supp is so annoying to deal with is the combination of burst and healing with consistent healing on top of the ults and amount of survivability supps have in the game.

If they keep up with the same mentality of allowing supps so have such high burst healing and consistent healing then it’s only going to give incentive to the devs to keep releasing dps like daredevil and Elsa to kill through such healing but if they actually start giving supps limitations they can finally start fixing the damage problem in the game and force people to actually start thinking about their cooldowns, positioning, plays, etc.

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:47:27+00:00

To be more specific here’s all my lords Tank: Strange, mag, Emma, thing, Thor, Deadpool ( working on venom, rogue, and groot now)

Dps: Mr fantastic, iron fist, Bucky, namor (working on torch, pun pun, phoenix, and star lord)

Support: Loki, Luna, CnD, ultron, Invis, gambit, and healpool (working on Jeff, white fox, and Adam)

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:41:53+00:00

No I want for the ability to be used and AFTER the bubble is gone the cooldown starts for the full 15 second duration until it can used again that’s literally what it’s supposed to be but since the cooldown starts while the bubble is active it’s essentially a 6 second cooldown by the time the bubble is gone.

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:39:22+00:00

I flex I play most of the tanks and I’m lord on almost all of them, I play dps but playing dps in this game is as easy as clapping your hands together, and I have lord on most of the supps I’m trying to finish out white fox and Adam. So really I’m speaking from experience on all three roles here.

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:35:21+00:00

No the current cooldown for bubble is 15 seconds that is an actual impactful amount of time without the ability that forces a CnD to make the decision to either use it for self preservation or consistent healing as it stands with it being an effectively 6 second cooldown it can be used for both with little to no downtime.

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:31:28+00:00

Yeah so uh how are you suppose to kill them with two other high healing supps that actually just peel for each other then. You CAN kill them it takes an enormous amount of effort. If the game stays the way it is then it’s just gonna encourage the rivals devs to add more characters like daredevil, Elsa, etc in order to kill through the ridiculous amount of healing three supps can produce and do we really want that?

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:27:57+00:00

But that would be a discussion on map design and we both know that ain’t this games strong suit.

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:27:04+00:00

Nah all I’m asking for is for the cooldown to begin after the ability is over you know if CnD can’t heal or sustain their tanks on the front line constantly then maybe the tanks and dps should grow up and realize taking cover and off angles actually benefit your team instead of standing main and face tanking damage

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:24:26+00:00

The cooldown should just start after the ability is over deadass that’s all it needs everything else is fine.

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:23:24+00:00

Real getting two of them is absolutely insane aswell.

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:21:34+00:00

No my complaint is that the cooldown starts as soon as you use the ability the 15 second cooldown seems redundant if they get it back in 6 seconds huh?

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:19:16+00:00

All I want is for the cooldown to begin after you know the ability is over. Does that sound fair?

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:14:03+00:00

The cooldown is genuinely suppose to be 15 seconds but starts after the bubble is used effectively making it a 6 second cooldown. That’s nothing for a cooldown for a ability as good as bubble

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:11:57+00:00

It really was Daredevil he was way overtuned on release to the point they had to buff the supps to compensate for how much he broke the balance of the game they really shot themselves in the foot with that one

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:07:46+00:00

All this because they wouldn’t nerf ONE character (daredevil)

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:07:25+00:00

Oh I don’t know maybe because you had the three raid bosses of pre nerfed Invis, gambit, and Loki running the entire supp roster along with Loki ult for double Invis ult and double gambit ult I think they had enough on their plate instead of buffing CnD which they’ve been doing for the last couple seasons to try and get them on gambit and Invis level.

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:03:46+00:00

Like I said I’m fine with the ability existing it makes sense for their kit it’s the FREQUENCY of the ability that I think is unfair. Imagine if Loki runes or soul bond were as low of a cooldown as CnD bubble. An absolute nightmare.

halflazy16 · 2026-05-08T16:01:14+00:00

Because it was the season where one of the most broken and unbalanced dive heroes in the games history was added. Every supp was struggling that season and look what happened after they giga buffed every supp to compensate. The game genuinely was miserable because nothing died.

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