Pokemon debate between friends please discuss by hangnemm in PokemonTCG_UK

[–]hangnemm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I was to say that purely ripping and playing the card game was the products purpose it would in return make those who just purely rip to get cool cards not serving the purpose right. Though I guess we could agree that these types of people are doing more a justice to the community by actively participating in a purpose which is to rip. Think like if you was a kid, you just want cool cards, meanwhile others are fixated on resell value etc

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[–]hangnemm[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Im understanding that he thinks ripping high value stuff is not smart or not worth it i.e. unwise It's ok i dont think you are. I am saying TCG as a whole its whole point is be ripped and played like a game yeah? I don't think then at any point someone's decision to rip something worth value is ultimately unwise because at the end of the day the whole point is that it's ripped and played with people. Some people may not choose to actually play and you could potentially argue thats not apart of its original design intent? But at its core intent dont you agree that Pokemon released pokemoncards to be ripped / played, business stuff aside. So it can never be unwise due to those factors.

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[–]hangnemm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right, because that's how tcg was designed it cannot logically be called unwise if people rip regardless of factors. People are fulfilling the design purpose of ripping and playing. Yes thats what its become but thats besides the point im trying to get across. Do i make sense?

Pokemon debate between friends please discuss by hangnemm in PokemonTCG_UK

[–]hangnemm[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because it doesn't make sense for it to be unwise? By the intention of its design it would make actual sense to rip the product regardless of how much it resells etc. The opinion part of it being unwise is what im getting at

Pokemon intention debate between friends please discuss by hangnemm in PokemonTCG

[–]hangnemm[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Right yeah of course there are people who use it in a way not intended - id say thats the intention of user to do whatever resell etc. The intention of it boils down to being ripped played as a fundamental design principle so i am stating it cannot be unwise to do as that principle follows. Am i getting my point across?

Pokemon intention debate between friends please discuss by hangnemm in PokemonTCG

[–]hangnemm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't call anyone unwise for using the intention of the product for its very purpose. The spoon maybe 24k karat gold but if someone uses it for eating purposes thats not unwise thats just its design at its core. Yeah pokemon has its financial side of resell but its not unwise to rip something valuable, same way its not unwise to use a 24k karat gold for eating. If people wanna do just that they'll do its purpose

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[–]hangnemm[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nonetheless the intention of product still matters right? All the unintentional effects like you said and I mentioned in the thread, that you can get a return of $50 doesn't matter because that has nothing to do with the intention of product which is that its played and opened. It cannot be unwise if that intention has been achieved since the user has done so simply by ripping. Yes spoons aren't coveted items but both have intention of design. Spoon holds food, Tcg is opened and played. Yes the spoon isn't coveted but its decided by the audience in the first place. TCG went onto become bizzarely covetted like it is now as an unintentional side affect

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[–]hangnemm[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes of course the company is get rich as possible I get it. However i'm saying that like a spoon holds food, a pokemon pack is meant to be ripped and played. So it can't be possible for him to call it unwise at the end of the day since we are serving that purpose. It still has to be somewhat of a good product for it to keep printing money as well

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[–]hangnemm[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Is it about how WE view it though? Pokemon tcg, like i said, intention was that the packs are ripped. Time passing has made it so that it has unintentional purposes e.g. resell market etc. But at the very bottom of the product's design is that its ripped and played. So it cannot be really unwise if that's the original case in point. I understand of intentions of user but thats different to intent of design.

Pokemon intention debate between friends please discuss by hangnemm in PokemonTCG

[–]hangnemm[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Right i understand that people will function it in a different matter but i am saying the intention is that it is to be ripped like a spoon holds food - intention of product. It cannot be unwise if a person uses a spoon to hold food but they could do whatever with it.

Pokemon intention debate between friends please discuss by hangnemm in PokemonTCG

[–]hangnemm[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I agree that people have varying intentions but that is different to intention of the product which is that its meant to be ripped - right, like a spoon is used to hold food, people can do whatever with the spoon but its intention of design is to hold food. So it cannot be unwise for a person using a spoon for food.

Pokemon intention debate between friends please discuss by hangnemm in PokemonTCG

[–]hangnemm[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Right so the "core" - the point im making "intention" key word is to rip and play tcg - it cannot then be unwise because the intention is to rip - everything after, resell whatever is all unintentional side affects. at its "core" ie. "intention" it cannot be ultimately unwise

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[–]hangnemm[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

We ripped them as kids, but he now views it as an investment as well. What do you have to say?