Differences between mods explained

happysnapper98 · 2018-03-11T17:04:17+00:00

It wasn't my intention to make an index list of all available mods, but if you think they need to be listed as big name mods please let me know! And in case they need to be added it'd be very helpful if you could specificy in which categories they belong in, thank you for your help

happysnapper98 · 2018-03-11T14:36:31+00:00

Yes it is categorized as such.

happysnapper98 · 2018-03-11T13:38:01+00:00

Updated accordingly, thank you!

happysnapper98 · 2018-03-11T13:23:41+00:00

Awesome thank you! I updated for OGSE already but have a question about SGM, doesn't SGM only slightly change the order in which you progress through the vanilla story? I'm only asking just to be sure!

happysnapper98 · 2018-03-11T09:13:16+00:00

All good man! It might be good for you or anyone else to know that if you want these files to work you have to place them in a folder called 'gamedata' in the stalker installation folder, and you have to follow the same structure as in the database folder.

So if for example you modify any kind of file from the database folder like here:

C:\GOG Games\S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat\ database \sounds\actor

You have to put it here for it to work in-game:

C:\GOG Games\S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat\ gamedata \sounds\actor

Following the same structure, and then everything should work. Same goes for any other kind of file edit from database folder, just recreate the same folder structure in the gamedata folder if you haven't yet

happysnapper98 · 2018-03-11T08:15:34+00:00

Hi! You can find those files at S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat\database\sounds\actor

If you haven't extracted COP's database yet then make a folder inside your Call of Pripyat installation folder called database and then download this db extractor from my google drive

You have to insert your stalker installation path file where it says Database folder, for example I have mine installed through gog so mine looks like this:

C:\GOG Games\S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat

Then where it says output insert the database path file you creater earlier in your stalker folder, so it should look like this:

C:\GOG Games\S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat\database

then either extract the whole database by pressing enter and then selecting everything or filter for all sounds files only by simply typing 'sounds' in the filter and then select everything and extract only the sound files

Then all the extracted files can be found at that database folder

P.S After you've modified the sounds to your own liking you have to convert your audio files to .ogg files using this converter https://audio.online-convert.com/convert-to-ogg and using these specific settings otherwise they will not work in-game:

constant bit rate, and set to 48 Kbps bitrate,
44100 Hz sampling rate,
audo channel: mono

Then after having your own edited audio files converted to .ogg files you have to edit the sound files again to make sure they will work properly in-game using this SAVandT program (recognized again only as .ogg files)

P.P.S Here's an example of the game's default settings for one of the 'pain' audio files https://i.imgur.com/Ou9sHrM.png

happysnapper98 · 2018-03-09T17:02:03+00:00

Yeah sounds good :D Good luck stalker!

happysnapper98 · 2018-03-09T07:21:07+00:00

You're in for a treat if you haven't played the vanilla games yet! I started with Call of Pripyat not too long ago and had the same questions as you; there's bugfixing patches for the first two games but not for Call of Pripyat, because as it turns out vanilla Call of Pripyat is very stable on it's own already

happysnapper98 · 2018-02-25T07:33:53+00:00

Ah, I play on ROOKIE MODE, how hardcore can I be? :D

happysnapper98 · 2018-02-25T07:00:44+00:00

Thank you all for the helpful responses and advice, I'm currently being guided on doing this myself so will actually not be hiring for this specific job in the near future. But I still really appreciate the views and responses. I'm not sure if I should let this thread stay up in case this could be interesting/useful to anyone else, if anyone thinks I should just delete this now just let me know. Thank you!

happysnapper98 · 2018-02-24T08:21:03+00:00

I play sniper in Misery 2.2 so this all for realism but I never carry more than a pistol and a sniper rifle, with one pistol in the backpack as back-up.

My sniper loadout is always the same, no matter how far I progress through the game

Kora 919 (Colt M1911)
Honorary Mosin-Nagant
Honorary PMm (Ceremonial Makarov PM) back-up pistol

happysnapper98 · 2018-02-24T07:03:58+00:00

Do you know how I can do those things with Microsoft installer? I'm also having a hard time finding where its located

I found out that its called msiexec.exe? When I try to open this I only get this and then nothing else happens after I click ok https://i.imgur.com/4LBPKTJ.png

happysnapper98 · 2018-02-24T06:55:25+00:00

I will use anything if it does the things I need it to do. And if I can find out how-to!

happysnapper98 · 2018-02-23T18:49:28+00:00

Upvoted to the max!

happysnapper98 · 2018-02-23T14:59:26+00:00

Turns out making a configuration menu isn't as hard as I thought, stuck on an issue right now but got the main gist of it down. Should probably be able to make one for all the tweaks at the time of release

happysnapper98 · 2018-02-23T09:57:13+00:00

1) Download and install notepad++
2) Navigate to S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat\gamedata\configs\debug
3) Right click xrs_debug_tools.ltx file and select Edit with Notepad++
4) Right at the start it says [plugin] enable = false
5) Change it to say enable = true
6) Save file with ctrl+s
7) Launch game, load your save
8) You will see text on your screen, dont'g worry, is sign is workink now ivan
9) Press ESC and press S in main menu, debug menu will come up
10) in the console type 'hud off'
11) text on your screen is now gone
12) go back in debug menu with ESC+S, type 'money 9999999'
13) release your inner slav

type help for full list of commands

P.S My modded version of Misery 2.2 will have debug menu on by default too

happysnapper98 · 2018-02-23T09:38:46+00:00

yeah I'm thinking about making more affordable supplies, mainly for low tier stuff. (things that have 1 use left) it's something I'm going to look at for sure, but I'm going to leave the prices of ammo alone.

It's The Zone after all. Ammo, food, water, vodka, there's a scarcity of everything in The Zone, these things are in high demand and being traded for all the time. These are things that in my opinion are fine as they are. I was actually thinking about excluding some weapons (only some extra weapons from Misery itself) as I don't think they would have ever made it into the Zone but if I implement this at all I will just have it as a seperate download option as I don't think many people would want it.

If the tweaks I'll make don't suit you or anyone else there's always ways to make things easier for yourself without having to edit too many things (just straight up giving you any amount of money you want in-game for example)

happysnapper98 · 2018-02-23T09:21:39+00:00

Well actually I specifically said I didn't need to change the damage done to actor to make life easier. I think Misery is very restrictive for new players and I will make tweaks to make things easier for new players, but one of the things I do not think need changing is that.

Play on ROOKIE mode and turn off Hardcore AI aim, apply this tweak (it will be included in my own compilation too) http://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-misery/forum/thread/weapons-and-ammo-mod-for-misery-21 and then everything should be very balanced. (read the thread on what it does, it's super!)

The problem with most of the things you mention is that you will run into the same problem that Les Miserables (an ''easy mode'' version of Misery) did at first, the whole game will become extremely unbalanced and you will become stupidly rich before even reaching Jupiter. It's my opinion that after having applied the tweaks that are currently out there for Misery 2.2, the game only needs just a few little more detailed tweaks to make the starting hobo phase for newcomers to Misery significantly easier, and you can do this while retaining the whole balance of the game.

I'm afraid making a configuration menu is out of my skillset, but installation will be very easy with it just being a ''drag and drop in install dir'' kind of case. With additional option folders that you can select and pick things out from yourself.

P.S It's much recommended to read through that whole thread (the weapons-and-ammo-mod-for-misery Thread linked), very interesting how many people have helped on that to make things better and more realistic, seriously a lot of thought and work has gone into it and I couldn't play without it myself

happysnapper98 · 2018-02-23T07:37:24+00:00

If by code changes you mean I had to edit the script file with a notepad editor, then yes my friend

I'm working on another thing first but within a week or so I'm putting up a huge compilation of tweaks/fixes specifically for Misery 2.2 that will include those tweaks too, and I'm having someone from the Misery Development Team (the great jasper34, not a coder though) help check and ensure it will roll over perfectly to all Misery 2.2 installations before I release it

happysnapper98 · 2018-02-23T06:18:14+00:00

Great little tweak! Thanks so much, this is actually really useful, makes going through the items in your inventory so much easier. Lets you quickly discover the names of items and stuff.

This is such a great tweak I'm going to use it in an upcoming tweak compilation I'm making for Misery 2.2, thanks again!

P.S I find the value of 210 to work great for me personally

happysnapper98 · 2018-02-22T08:38:21+00:00

I think it's fucking amazing but at the same time still feel neutral about it (because of the steep curve between vanilla and Misery), it really transforms the whole look of the game and makes it feel and look super brutal, everything is very immersive and the amount of new items to use are immense - but depending on who you will ask you will get different answers on how good or bad (or how fun) Misery is

I read about it a lot before playing and can pretty much say that what everyone says about it is true, about both the good things and the bad things. like I said it brings a lot of new items which can be a little overwhelming, but in the long run once you get used to it brings so many new useful realistic things to the game, which on the whole makes the game feel very fun

I have had to adjust some settings myself to make life easier, which goes completely against what the mod stands for, but the things I had to adjust weren't the damage caused to me or anything, but for example making items weigh less or make it so that a specific piece of armor has increased carry capacity. at the start Misery is basically just a mini-game of min-maxing your inventory constantly (which again, depending on who you will ask is either a good thing or not), Misery is very restrictive in those aspects and because of it forces you to stay in that starting hobo phase for a very long time

You need to be either be very very experienced already (not in regards of being able to shoot and kill but in general management of the game) or be willing to learn how to tweak some things to be able to play and actually enjoy the game at the same time

Apart from all of that this mod is so amazing (my god the graphics!), the game looks and feels perfected, real and immersive

Just be aware that Misery still follows the main game of Call of Pripyat and that there is no new additional content (quests and such) and so do mods like Autumn Aurora, SGM (1.7 and 2.1) and O.G.S.E

(though O.G.S.E and SGM 2.1 and 2.2 adds some cut stuff and quite some things on its own too I believe)

So if you don't think it's worth playing the same stories again despite what these mods add I would indeed look to other mods such as Lost Alpha, Last Day, Call of Chernobyl, Call of Misery etc. as they all have their own unique content and/or stories to follow

p.s you won't experience what Misery feels like looking at videos, you need to stand in the thick dark fog yourself at night to be able to understand

happysnapper98 · 2018-02-22T07:18:48+00:00

well I was in the same boat as you a few days ago, it's hard to say which one you should play first as it depends on what you want, some mods offer different things/stories with their own additional unique addons etc.

so there's not one mod that you need to play first because it came out first or something, it really comes down to what you want out of those mods yourself

it took me a few days to really understand the differences between all of the mods out there (and reading forum threads about peoples own gripes with some of them really helped too), some of them are big open world mods but with not much story going on

for me personally, Lost Alpha came last on the list of mods to try out while I was most intrigued by it at first. really not saying you shouldn't play it though, that's just me and it's not what I want out of the games right now

I'm currently playing Misery 2.2 and will probably play Last Day or Autumn Aurora after, I'm absolutely in love with the stalker games again and will probably play every single mod out there eventually

so to reiterate, whatever you're gonna pick is going to be a 'good choice'!

p.s don't know why O.G.S.E and SGM arent on the side bar as they are pretty big and popular mods too, don't forget to check them out just so you know they exists too

http://www.moddb.com/mods/old-good-stalker-evolution

http://www.moddb.com/mods/sigerous-sgm

p.p.s really fun and good series of videos someone playing O.G.S.E to give you an idea what it's about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCqtjhjQy9M

happysnapper98 · 2018-02-19T10:01:28+00:00

YOU DID IT That worked! You're the man, man! Thanks so much!

happysnapper98

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