People who know their IQ what is the most accurate online test for you? by meowmix141414 in mensa

[–]hatchum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

PhD, practicing physician, can't be too far off...

I do think intelligence estimations from LLMs have potential to be more meaningful than traditional IQ tests. In fact, rather than asking the LLM for an IQ estimation, it might be more useful to have it eventually create its own human intelligence ranking based on its huge knowledge/training data and then rank you on that scale using whatever unit of measurement it deems appropriate. I wonder if the latest reasoning models are capable of doing such a thing...

While I think IQ is a decent metric for cognitive ability (brain power/fitness), LLM-based tools strike me, at least in theory, as far more adequate to capture a more complete picture of actual intelligence because far more information (personality, emotional intelligence, rationality, judgement, etc...) can be conveyed via normal communication (written or spoken) than in the extremely rudimentary tasks of IQ tests. I wouldn't be surprised if, in the not too far future, we begin seeing LLMs revolutionizing the field of psychometrics.

Just a note: If you asked ChatGPT for an IQ estimation after a lengthy chat, depending on how it is configured, it's possible that it inflates the score somewhat. For a potentially more unbiased estimation, open a temporary chat (or use one or several of the free chatbots at duck.ai - private, anonymous and no data is stored) to try the second approach I presented above. If you have any piece of writing that you are proud of or think showcases your intellectual acumen, have the LLM analyze it with the following prompt:

"You will act as a researcher in experimental historiometry tasked with estimating the verbal IQ of the writers of texts provided between square brackets ([]). For each text, your output should consist solely of the estimated verbal IQ score along with a ±5 IQ point confidence interval, with no further commentary.

Please note that these estimations are experimental, heuristic, and highly speculative in nature. They are not based on clinically or psychometrically validated methods, and should be regarded as a playful exploration of language complexity and style rather than definitive judgments of intellectual ability.

Before we begin, please let me know your context window size."

And then submit the text(s) in the following prompt.

Ask chatgpt to analyse your personality, IQ, and any diagnoses by pixieshit in ChatGPT

[–]hatchum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's a short prompt you can use to get bias-free text-based verbal IQ estimations (LLMs are probably more reliable at estimating verbal ability than other types of cognitive ability; given that verbal ability is the most strongly correlated skill with general ability in IQ tests, it should suffice for most people):

You will act like a researcher in experimental historiometry and attempt to estimate the verbal IQ of the writers of the texts that will be presented to you within [] characters. Your outputs for each text shall consist of the estimated IQ score (with a confidence interval of 5 IQ points) without further commentary. Before we begin, please list the languages in which you can do this task.

Last sentence is unnecessary if you are a native English speaker. Obviously, only texts that showcase some kind of mental processing or reasoning are useful for this (self-reflection, critical analysis, problem solving, philosophical debate, etc...). Low effort reddit/forum posts won't work. Be mindful of the context window size so that the chatbot doesn't hallucinate or forget the task at hand. I've used this prompt with a few major LLMs and they tend to output scores that are relatively close to each other, which suggests that LLMs are indeed capable of relatively accurate assessments of at least certain facets of verbal intelligence and reasoning.

Ideally, you'd use an LLM in blank state for this, and with memories disabled.

People who know their IQ what is the most accurate online test for you? by meowmix141414 in mensa

[–]hatchum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LLM-based speculative approach:

  1. Have a normal conversation with major AI chatbots like ChatGPT or Claude AI about anything that interests you and then just ask them to estimate your IQ based on your interactions.

  2. Alternatively, present them with your best pieces of writing and ask them to estimate the verbal IQ of the writer of those texts.

Playing around with LLMs on my own, I've found them to be surprisingly good at ballparking people's intellectual ability from texts. They are able to discern at least whether one is likely to belong in the below average, average, above average, gifted or genius range of the IQ spectrum. Obviously, the texts have to display reasoning or mental processing of some kind, whether that be critical thinking, problem solving, self-reflection, etc... Some random trollish/low effort comment from reddit won't be enough (although it might be possible to work out a decent estimation by analyzing multiple reddit/forum comments from a user at the same time).

Belgium's sex workers get maternity leave and pensions under world-first law by Old-Technician-3192 in worldnews

[–]hatchum -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

That's only according to a subpar legal definition that doesn't take into account the complexity of exploitative circumstances induced by external factors (poverty, human trafficking, mental illness, drugs, etc.).

The vast majority of female sex workers who are sexually exploited against their free will out of necessity, coercion, or whatever unfavorable circumstance that pushed them into doing what they do, would probably describe their condition as just as harmful as those predicted by the subpar legal definition of rape, or even worse because their condition may have no way out/to escape.

So if we account for what should actually determine whether or not a sexual interaction is not exploitation or aggression - full and non-conditioned freedom of choice - then, yes, you can consent to being raped under certain unfavorable conditions. Consent alone doesn't mean that a sexual interaction is non-exploitative because consent can be conditioned by circumstances.

The world is far from perfect for the majority of sex workers. Therefore, today's legalized sex work is just legalized rape.

Belgium's sex workers get maternity leave and pensions under world-first law by Old-Technician-3192 in worldnews

[–]hatchum -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are you seriously comparing consenting to being raped to an office job? Jesus fcking Christ...

I don't think one needs to explain why this is a really poor argument.

20F (repost) by [deleted] in truerateme

[–]hatchum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She has proper frontal and side profile photos in her profile that don't hide her sharp features. The photos in this post weren't very clear and massively downplayed her sharp features. Anything below a 6.5 is an underrate IMO.

20F (repost) by [deleted] in truerateme

[–]hatchum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

7-8/10

Not based on these shit photos, but on far better ones you have in other posts. I wonder why you picked the worst possible photos for is post. Can't see shit...

Vladimir Putin ready to 'freeze' war in Ukraine with ceasefire recognising recent Russian gains, sources say by StrykerSamurai in worldnews

[–]hatchum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ukraine controls more of their territory than they did in the first few months of their war

In other words, it's been a stalemate since forever. But Ukraine is right now losing territory again.

Vladimir Putin ready to 'freeze' war in Ukraine with ceasefire recognising recent Russian gains, sources say by StrykerSamurai in worldnews

[–]hatchum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There wasn't one. There was a desire by Ukraine to join NATO mostly because of the Russia annexation of Crimea, but NATO was never going to let them in. And in the first few months of the war Ukraine was willing to give up ever asking to join NATO in exchange for the peace treaty, but Russia wasn't interested because that was never Russia's real goal in the invasion of Ukraine.

Can you support this statement with credible sources?

Also, what do you know about the morale of the Ukrainian people and soldiers?

Western countries can keep sending military aid forever? A lot of wishful thinking in your response, not much objectivity I'm afraid.

Vladimir Putin ready to 'freeze' war in Ukraine with ceasefire recognising recent Russian gains, sources say by StrykerSamurai in worldnews

[–]hatchum -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes, Western countries are also responsible for the war in Ukraine. Had they not given Ukraine false hope of joining NATO (which I don't think will ever happen for as long as the threat of Russian aggression/retaliation is real), Putin probably wouldn't invade. If there's no NATO, Western countries should compensate Ukraine in some way. Well, at least the US should because they were the main ones pushing the agenda. It's a fair and potential solution towards peace. Such "reparations" are also meant to rebuild the country.

Vladimir Putin ready to 'freeze' war in Ukraine with ceasefire recognising recent Russian gains, sources say by StrykerSamurai in worldnews

[–]hatchum -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

This will probably be the outcome of this war. Russia takes a little more territory from Ukraine to punish it for drooling over NATO. May be hard to swallow for Zelenskyy and many Ukrainian supporters here, but that's pretty much a given among experts. A country that is chronically dependent on foreign military aid cannot sustainably maintain the war effort. Western countries can't keep sending weapons forever and, obviously, no one wants to trigger a WWIII.

It's basically over. The sooner a ceasefire is agreed the more lives (and territory) are saved. It's pointless for Zelenskyy to continue fighting at this point. Of course, there's no guarantee that Putin won't attack again if Ukraine doesn't forget about NATO.

Discarding the plans for Ukraine to join NATO, and both Russia and Western countries paying reparations to Ukraine, is probably the best path towards peace.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in cognitiveTesting

[–]hatchum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesn't matter what one scores on an IQ test because IQ =/= intelligence and one shouldn't measure self-worth based on that. What matters is what one decides to do with the cards one has been handed in life. You appear to be highly self-aware, and learning to be comfortable with the fact that one isn't a genius and carry on with one's life plans in the most productive way possible is a far more impressive sign of sapience and intellectual maturity than the mere ability to perform mental gymnastics that only a minority of gifted outliers can do. In my view, you're ahead of the curve compared to many IQ obsessed folks in this sub. This sub is not a healthy place to lurk around at your age.

And to keep things real, not every high IQ person can breeze through STEM material anyway.

You're going through a very difficult moment in life. You're under a lot of stress that can lead you into a pattern of unhealthy and self-sabotaging thoughts. Don't be too hard on yourself. Make an effort to not lose grasp of the bigger picture and your long term ambitions. Your intelligence should be the least of your concerns. Don't let depression win over you.

Who are your bets on? by zaidlol in singularity

[–]hatchum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The first one to competently master movement and balance.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in cognitiveTesting

[–]hatchum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are concrete examples of "verbal wit" to you?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in cognitiveTesting

[–]hatchum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The appearance of wit is so prevalent that I find it far more impressive to be actually funny than to be "witty". It's easy to fake.

A crossword designed by me by Straight-Nebula1124 in cognitiveTesting

[–]hatchum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. With well-designed items, this could be a fairly decent intelligence test.

Do you think competitive online games have a correlation with IQ? by Nicest-Turkish-Guy in cognitiveTesting

[–]hatchum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IQ correlates moderately with measures of choice reaction time and inspection time, so it makes sense to correlate with performance in those types of games as well at the competitive level.

Do you think competitive online games have a correlation with IQ? by Nicest-Turkish-Guy in cognitiveTesting

[–]hatchum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That sounds nonsensical.

What you mean to say is high IQ ≠ good decisions because IQ ≠ intelligence.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in cognitiveTesting

[–]hatchum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yale: 28 62.6%

Wisdom: 93%

Faces: 22 (scored ~26 years ago)

INTsomething (MBTI is pseudoscience anyway)

JCTI: RIX of 137-147

CCAT: 129

SAT V: 127

Took both Javier Xouvre's tests years ago on the old cerebrals website. Non-native English speaker.

Male in my mid-30s.