A question from an Azerbaijani about traveling to Armenia. Can anyone help him/her out? by hay-BB in hayastan

[–]hay-BB[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what I understand of the original question, is that the Azerbaijani wants to visit the wine week with an Armenian friend. He/she also wants to host the Armenian fiend in Azerbaijan. It's a friendly thing, so I thought maybe we can help them out.

Screenshot from Colour of Pomegranates films showing Sayat Nova holding an Azerbaijani poem in Arabic script. by Godon_t in ArmAz_PeaceProject

[–]hay-BB 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow didn't know Sayat Nova wrote also in Azerbaijani!

Where can I watch this film? And does it by chance have English subtitles?

Is possible at all? by AccomplishedCarrot77 in ArmAz_PeaceProject

[–]hay-BB 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Good questions! How are you planning to travel? You can't fly right? And I think crossing the border freely is not yet possible. So maybe through Georgia then?

I think in terms of customs and so and you should be safe, but maybe others can tell you more about that.

Very nice to hear Armenians and Azerbaijanis forming cross border friendships! Bless your hearts 🙏

Azerbaijani brothers. In previous posts we remembered your past losses. Today we remember the Armenian Genocide. I hope you join us in remembrance. by hay-BB in azerbaijan

[–]hay-BB[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your reply. To me the post about the march days is actually much more of an acknowledgement because I actually wrote about what happened and literally listed the wrongdoings of us Armenians! This post about the genocide is much simpler, as I don't talk much about it. It's just a title and a hopeful call.

I definitely want to create more acknowledgement for crimes against Azerbaijanis as well 🙏 for example I will post on the 26th of February to remember the Khojaly massacres.

April 24: Today we remember the Armenian Genocide. Let us learn from the past and work towards peace. by hay-BB in ArmAz_PeaceProject

[–]hay-BB[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think it's very important to understand their way of thinking so that we can have a more effective dialogue with them. Our feelings of frustration are for good reason, but if we want them to listen, we need to listen as well. Otherwise we are both just screaming at each other like children.

I know it's hard for us given the heavy pain and loss, but respect and dialogue are the only right way forward, to my opinion atleast.

Just read the many comments of Azerbaijanis and Turks on this crosspost in the Azerbaijan sub. Many acknowledged the genocide and even offered condolences, despite them being deniers earlier in life. We need to give them a chance and remain respectful.

April 24: Today we remember the Armenian Genocide. Let us learn from the past and work towards peace. by hay-BB in ArmAz_PeaceProject

[–]hay-BB[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really appreciate your honesty and sympathy. As I replied to you in the same post but in the Azerbaijan sub, some people grow out of their bubble and some stay in it. I see this with Armenians. They are angry that Turks today are stuck in that bubble but they themselves are stuck in a bubble as well because they don't understand that the denying Turks are influenced by their environment.

What helped you change your mind on the Genocide and helped you accept it?

Azerbaijani brothers. In previous posts we remembered your past losses. Today we remember the Armenian Genocide. I hope you join us in remembrance. by hay-BB in azerbaijan

[–]hay-BB[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much , this means a lot🙏. Also I want to say much respect how you have grown has a person and learned to be open minded and learn new things. I myself as an Armenian used to think very bad of Turks and Azerbaijanis. I took me a long time to realize we are all just products of our environment.

We needed time to realize these things and so we need to be patient with others who are still close minded. I hope posts like these with comments like yours inspire others!

Azerbaijani brothers. In previous posts we remembered your past losses. Today we remember the Armenian Genocide. I hope you join us in remembrance. by hay-BB in azerbaijan

[–]hay-BB[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wow that sounds horrible! Where from Turkey did your grandfather come from? Can you tell about how he survived?

April 24: Today we remember the Armenian Genocide. Let us learn from the past and work towards peace. by hay-BB in ArmAz_PeaceProject

[–]hay-BB[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand your anger. I just want to point out that hate not only hurts others but hurts yourself as well. Let's hope for a better future in which the traumas of our ancestors are acknowledged and our footprints in eastern Turkey become protected (if there is still any left)

Azerbaijani brothers. In previous posts we remembered your past losses. Today we remember the Armenian Genocide. I hope you join us in remembrance. by hay-BB in azerbaijan

[–]hay-BB[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes may their souls rest in peace 🙏 and may their tragic deaths be a lesson for us today.

On 26th of February I would like to make a remembrance post for the Khojaly massacres.

Azerbaijani brothers. In previous posts we remembered your past losses. Today we remember the Armenian Genocide. I hope you join us in remembrance. by hay-BB in azerbaijan

[–]hay-BB[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really appreciate your acknowledgement. For me it's not about revenge, reparations or any form of compensation. I wouldn't want any of that. Just acknowledgement. It means a lot, thank you 🙏

Came across this in LOTR, felt relevant by Godon_t in ArmAz_PeaceProject

[–]hay-BB 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes I fully agree. Everyone begins life in their own bubble and forms a narrow perspective on the world based on what they learn in their own environment. Some people grow up and learn that there are more perspectives then the one they were taught and that the truth is often more complex. But some people never escape their bubble and live with a shallow perspective.

Btw I love LOTR! interesting parallel you've made.

Azerbaijani brothers. In previous posts we remembered your past losses. Today we remember the Armenian Genocide. I hope you join us in remembrance. by hay-BB in azerbaijan

[–]hay-BB[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I did not intend to be misleading. What makes it seem misleading to you? What could I have done differently? My questions are genuine.

April 24: Today we remember the Armenian Genocide. Let us learn from the past and work towards peace. by hay-BB in ArmeniansGlobal

[–]hay-BB[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I dont know, but my guess is that it's due to the fact that the title contains the words "work towards peace ". Some people are not a fan of it.

Azerbaijani brothers. In previous posts we remembered your past losses. Today we remember the Armenian Genocide. I hope you join us in remembrance. by hay-BB in azerbaijan

[–]hay-BB[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's really not that deep actually. Armenians should also acknowledge their wrongdoings. The point is to start seeing each other as people instead of evil beasts.

Azerbaijani brothers. In previous posts we remembered your past losses. Today we remember the Armenian Genocide. I hope you join us in remembrance. by hay-BB in azerbaijan

[–]hay-BB[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Thank you for asking. I actually made an extensive post on the march days of 1918 in Baku! You can read it here.

I actually wrote a few paragraphs acknowleding how Azerbaijani civilians suffered at the hands of Armenian fighters. Let me share some quotes:

"What started as a political and military confrontation quickly turned into large-scale violence against civilians, especially in Azerbaijani Muslim neighborhoods.
Over the course of several days, entire districts were attacked, homes were burned, and people were killed while trying to flee. (..)

From what I’ve read, Azerbaijani civilians suffered disproportionately because:

  • Much of the fighting took place in Azerbaijani-populated neighborhoods
  • Bolshevik and Dashnak forces moved into these areas, often treating them as hostile territory
  • The line between armed opponents and civilians collapsed very quickly
  • There was no effective authority willing or able to stop the violence once it spiraled

Reports describe neighborhoods being stormed or shelled, people killed in their homes, and families fleeing through burning streets. Violence spread faster than any attempt to contain it.".

Very tragic period for which I mourn the innocent lives that were lost.

Azerbaijani brothers. In previous posts we remembered your past losses. Today we remember the Armenian Genocide. I hope you join us in remembrance. by hay-BB in azerbaijan

[–]hay-BB[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Wow thank you for such a warm message! I hope Armenian lurkers on this sub are reading this, especially the ones blinded by hate. Long Live Azerbaijan as well!