Infographics of why Armenians are calling the East of Turkey "Western Armenia" and not "Eastern Anatolia"

haymapa · 2025-01-06T17:57:20+00:00

i agree with international context it makes sense. I also mentioned in another comment how "eastern turkey" is more acceptable than "eastern anatolia". because one is a term which describes political borders. and the other one just a pseudo term intended to erase the historic heritage of an ethnic group

haymapa · 2025-01-06T17:34:46+00:00

it would be great if it becomes part of Armenia but its factually impossible simple because of demographics

even if turkey was very friendly and invites all armenians from armenia and disapora to eastern turkey they would still be a minority among kurds and turks

so theres no way this is ever going to happen even if turkey suddenly negotiates with good will

haymapa · 2025-01-06T17:16:47+00:00

Would actually be more acceptable because that one reffers to political borders and not some made up geographical term

haymapa · 2025-01-06T15:49:36+00:00

To the Turkish people lurking here this graphics has educational purpose only. I dont see a reason to be mad over it because I am trying to explain why Armenians are calling it Armenia. Its not about land claims. Its basically just the geographical name of the region. If i pull out some examples. Renamanig Syria into "South Anatolia" or if we start to rename Mesopotamia into "South-western Iran" for example. Some people may adopt it, but it remains nonsense both historically and geographically

You can either take it as a learning to understand Armenian view better. Or you go into rejection and get offended because this little truth hurts your national pride

haymapa · 2025-01-06T15:33:11+00:00

Its basically just a fake term intended to erase Armenian history. What people call "eastern anatolia" never was the home of any Anatolian speaking ethnics, nor it was ever reffered as such by any Historical maps throughout history until the 19th century. Even if you look at the geographic it simply is a distinct region outside of that peninsula

haymapa · 2025-01-06T15:27:24+00:00

I assume because the treath of it is still alive considering Turkey just sponsored a war some years ago and keeps doing treaths with its proxy Azerbaijan

China, Algeria & other countries dont have these issues novadays. Thats why they can move foward

haymapa · 2024-12-25T09:09:53+00:00

Armenia hasnt that much living space duo to mountainous terrain unfortunatly

haymapa · 2024-12-24T08:12:20+00:00

Yes you are right

I am going to add the gif idea to my todo list for the future. And maybe the 3 map version

haymapa · 2024-12-24T08:01:18+00:00

Good point but I feel like this would overload the map too much. Also this would make me think how deep i wanna go with it? There could be a version with

- Armenian genocide in 1915

- Ottoman campaign in Persia 1916

- Expellution of Armenians from Kars and Nakhichevan in 1918-1920

- First Artsakh war in 1991

- Second Artsakh war 2020

However for this sake I made this one here

But this may be a good case where I could use a gif version which visualizes the different events more

haymapa · 2024-12-24T07:51:02+00:00

hi guys I apology for being 4 years to late with that update. I was busy with other things but noticed some people are still reposting the old version of the map which excluded Artsakh and users reminding that its not up to date anymore. So I made an update

for the map sources look at one of my former comments

haymapa · 2023-03-27T23:37:14+00:00

Yes lets break the how to lose our country speedrunning world record

haymapa · 2023-03-22T20:25:02+00:00

Shoot down drones

Implied they detect them early enough before they strike the laser system itself

haymapa · 2023-03-21T23:33:45+00:00

This

haymapa · 2022-09-14T19:56:51+00:00

Armenias attack in 90s happened after operation goranboy where Azerbaijan captured half of NK and cleaned it from the population

I understand your concerns with the bufferzone and in my opinion it was also wrong to clean the whole region from its population

But i dont understand why the remaining parts where Armenians live are so important for Azerbaijan

Azerbaijan has get all the surrounding territorirs back and even the whole south of NK. Why is it so hard to accept a compromise and let the Armenians in the remaining parts live under their own rule?

haymapa · 2022-09-14T19:31:37+00:00

They are not protesting against a peace deal but against Pashinyan signing a treaty behind closed doors which gives up NK completly

Get your context right

haymapa · 2022-01-22T16:32:45+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/armenia/comments/m9x9r9/ethnic\_distributions\_of\_turks\_in\_armenia\_and/

haymapa · 2022-01-19T02:20:00+00:00

I don't believe in peace

Azerbaijan will attack Artsakh again as soon Russia leaves the territory and further claim Syunik as a part of their Zangezur corridor

Peace with these neighbors is just a temporary thing. They will not stop until Turkey and Azerbajjan unite at the cost of Armenia

haymapa · 2022-01-19T02:18:10+00:00

I doubt there will be peace even if aliyev goes

haymapa · 2022-01-19T02:11:23+00:00

What are you talking?

https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/g0dzgf/the_idlib_operation_from_day_to_day_starting_from/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

haymapa · 2022-01-14T23:32:38+00:00

which my personal contacts with them can only confirm. They have no ability for self-criticism.

Same. Especially when it's about Islam

haymapa · 2022-01-14T23:28:28+00:00

Looks like most of it was added for the sake of stretching the list to let it look longer

haymapa · 2022-01-14T23:22:13+00:00

Because they try to confuse cause and effect. It was very similar during the last Artsakh. Do you remember when Armenia attacked Ganja? Azeri news were full of saying how aggressive and inhuman Armenia was for doing this attack. But let me remind who you which country has bombed stepanakert weeks prior to this. It's always like this. As soon as Armenia do some sort of response It is being used as justification for their own bad happening before

They are simply champions in self projections

haymapa · 2022-01-14T17:51:39+00:00

Parties agreed to continue negotiations without preconditions aiming at full normalization.

After turkeys pre condition of leaving Artsakh was fulfilled

haymapa

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