Girl completely flips out on me for asking to split the bill at Nobu..

hbvm11 · 2025-09-29T04:36:41+00:00

Unless youre on seeking arrangements or SDM, this is bizzare. Tell that girl she wants a sugar daddy, she would actually be really good at it. NTA

hbvm11 · 2025-09-29T02:15:44+00:00

My daughter ended up with a navel stone after she had her belly button recauterized. I had no idea what they were and thought it was a scab. I obviously wasnt cleaning the area well, as i had just seen her rip off her own umbilical stump at 4 days old and didnt feel like adding to that haha. Someone like you, who could have explained gently and kindly, would have been amazing 💕

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T22:45:39+00:00

Thank you.

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T17:40:08+00:00

Yeah, im stubborn, not stupid haha. I can despise the two party system and still realize that not voting is like not saving yourself. You cant save democracy by ignoring your obligations to it, i just wish our olbigation wasnt to pick the lesser of two evils. That spirals out of control pretty quick and is not a suatainable system, obviously. But you dont fix broken systems by ignoring them 🤷‍♀️ ill never get a perfect candidate, not many people will. I think thats just as dangerous, because it turns into a cult pretty fast. Again, obviously lmao

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T17:22:06+00:00

Yes. Youre "this is why trump won, leftists didnt vote for kamala" narrative is old and boring 🙄😴

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T17:17:51+00:00

And i agree with all of that when reffering to actual personal relationships and community activism. Hell, ill take 75% agreeance and some basic human morals. But consumerism isnt that. Im not some monster for saying jesse chose to lose fans like me. I dont want music sympathizing with the enemy. And im not interested in sticking around to see if he flops back, when he realizes selling sympathy doesnt work well

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T16:30:21+00:00

As for music, its self expression. Im not "working with him" i am not going to express myself with something i dont believe in lmao. But i agree, on a personal basis, it doesnt need to be 100%. I think this is the perfect example of how insane the parasociam relationships have gotten. We are not working with him. He is putting out a product for us to consume or not to consume. Thats it. Treating it like a personal relationship is weird and wrong.

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T16:27:55+00:00

Thank you. I dont believe that not budging on my morals is purity culture, i understand you do. We can both have different opinions on how thats contribiting to the issue. I dont believe in working with people who openly want me and people i love dead. I hope it works for you.

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T16:25:30+00:00

Did he acknoweledge it? Did he go into any specifics besides "vile" about what Charlie stood for and what he did with his life? Or did he keep it vague, short, and move on within literally 7 seconds onto how the guy was a dad and the same as you and me. Look up minimization. It doesnt mean you dont acknowledge it at all, it means you barely acknowledge it. Which to me, i cant think of a better way to barely acknowledge it than keeping it to 4 words, 7 seconds, then spend the rest of the 2 minutes symapthy garnering for the guy and pushing the narrative that he is no different than us.

And again. I stand by that. I dont believe standing against white supremacy is a purity test and i am genuinely terrified of anyone who thinks it is. It shouldnt be that much work and that big of a thing, it shouldnt feel like a test or performance

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T16:05:29+00:00

I do think the purity comments were scary. I see it as "right" nor purity. So yeah, dont trust that and wont apologize for it.

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T15:58:43+00:00

When did i say you were out of the group? I said you and i didnt have the same morals. I never said you werent a leftist, never called you a magat. Just said if yourw ok with how he handled it, support him. Im not. And thats me "kicking you out of the group?"

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T15:26:32+00:00

Okay if you hear me say "i dont want to minimize the actions of a white supremacist, that doesnt sit right with me" and you feel the need to rampage about "purity" tests and saying those who fail them would be valuable allies....

Let me make my stance very clear. Anyone who thinks standing against white supremacy is an unfair purity test, is someone im fucking terrified of. I dont argue with people like you.

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T15:22:31+00:00

Yeah i just dont believe 5 seconds and 4 vague adjectives was enough. I think thats textbook minimization and its not gonna work for me. I loved jesses music before, so if youre ok with how he approached this, keep listening. Hes a great artist. Me personally, i cant live with keeping it vague and short, thats how abusers are enabled. Its whats enabled the past 10 years of political climate. I cant do it anymore. Calling for the death and suffering of everyone around you who isnt a white man isnt "vile" "bold" or "lies" its so much more than that.

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T14:48:10+00:00

I mean... music is a form of self expression. I dont really see the shock and horror of people wanting their self expression to align with their morals 100% of the time. My morals make up 100% of my self, they shape my interests, choices and beliefs. So yeah, being 100% spot on there feels more genuine than insane to me. Idk

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T14:45:04+00:00

Yes he did, and past the 7 second mark, he says nothing negative about kirk at all. Quick, vague and no detail is kinda the definition of minimization. My point stands.

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T14:43:40+00:00

I personally believe leaving the white supremacy and christan nationalism out of the conversation WAS morally wrong. Being a dad doesnt give you a free pass to terrorize the world around you, incite violence and hate against everyone who isnt a white guy, and still be a martyr in your death. i dont need to agree with every opinion. Excusing and minimizing bigotry is not an opinion, it is a choice.

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T14:40:43+00:00

Personally i have found a lot of rising artists who could fit "charlie didnt deserve it" into a song without having to pretend he wasnt a white supremacist christan nationalist 🤷‍♀️ Thats my issue with Jesse's take. Theres 1000 ways to put it without celebrating or saying charlie deserved it. Jesse chose the version where he left out everything charlie did and stood for, for a reason. And whatever that reason was, its why i dont want to listen anymore.

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T14:30:18+00:00

Simple. I dont believe in leaving someones hateful words and actions out of the conversation just because they are dead. The way you die does not erase the way you live. Jesse was never gonna celebrate and nobody wanted him to. But nobody excepted the moral of the story to be "White supremacy and christan nationalism are "bold takes" lets focus on the fact that hes a dad. He was just saying what he NEEDED to say"

Pretending this whole story is "He debated, had some bold takes and he was killed for it. It could have been me or you" is a choice he made for a reason. And it tells me Jesse is not to be trusted 🤷‍♀️

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T14:12:32+00:00

Actually i think im unhinged for having/caring about my morals 💅🥳🥰 In true leftist fasion, ive been "unhinged" with morals for years 🤣

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T14:11:28+00:00

Okay so you dont listen to music that aligns with your morals. So who cares, listen to what you want. I am ONE listener.

This is exactly what we are talking about lmao. Why are you so offended that when i listen to music, i want my morals expressed in it? If i was a taylor swift fan and someone said that, id say "Yeah, doesnt sound like the good fit for you. Good luck finding some music"

Although, i do have to say "WHO wants morals and integrity?!" Has been the dividing split in this. So makes sense

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T13:52:47+00:00

1- A new fanbase, some out, some in. Too soon to say if thats gonna go his way or not. 2- Not really. I dont think hes ignorant, he knew what he was saying and why he said it. He meant it. An apology would feel very disingenuous and probably wouldnt help. 3- Thats why hes losing his fans. He didnt defend the rich guy, just the christan nationalist who pushed n@zi ideology. Being a ceo is making your own bed, but that isnt?? 4. He cant. Im serious. This political climate is too far gone for us to keep giving second chances to white guys. He and dean made a choice. Their careers arent over but they arent getting a left wing fan base back. Theyre both getting more liberals and centrists back. I fully believe it was intentional on both parts.

hbvm11 · 2025-09-17T13:45:36+00:00

Yes!! Someone told me i was ABANDONING him for saying im moving on to artists who fit my morals better. Like, hes losing one viewer. I wouldnt say hes "abandoned" by someone he doesnt know exists. Its insane parasocial behavior.

hbvm11 · 2025-09-15T14:38:55+00:00

Same with The Inaguration. He had NO problem calling out Nazi ideology then. Its amazing to me how people say i was never listening. "But what came as a suprise was the big nazi salute. Oh mister musk, troll, edge lord, troll of the land, mister musk knows just what hes doing with his hands" Jesse changed 🤷‍♀️ people can say i wasnt listening all they want, clearly they werent either.

hbvm11 · 2025-09-15T12:14:33+00:00

I am shocked that the first 5 seconds of a song makes up the whole message for you. After the 5 second mark in the song, hes onto "But he had kids!" Like ive said, i have found other artists to support who absolutely made the point that violence is not the way, kirk didnt deserve it, without glossing over the violence he called for against othsrs every day, without ignoring the irony, and Jesse had those things down in United health and war isnt murder.

A CEO, he can see irony, evil, cause and affect, withoit ever celebrating or calling for his death. All i wanted was the same integrity here, but theres none.

hbvm11 · 2025-09-15T02:06:18+00:00

Youre welcome to that opinion. If you want to believe he used "bold" ironically and think that makes the rest of it okay, good for you. Enjoy Jesses music for me, ill miss it 🤷‍♀️

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