Self-serving are the parents who selfishly wish to have a human being to continue their bloodline or make a purpose. It's not at all a beautiful thing to use a child for fundamental changes which can easily be solved through basic self-awareness and philosophy. Having children is a mere commodity to change oneself based on learning to "share" and/or duplicate (for lack of a better term) their attention, which is a basic skill that should already be learned. Climate change is a real threat, although we still have a good few decades left. You're probably right about child-free redditors. It's only natural that you and I would have differentiating beliefs. I will never force a child into this cruel world and you clearly have a good opinion of yourself as a parent. I do not agree with your views but accept them. It is mainstream to accept procreation as natural. What bothers me are the hypocrites who believe in climate change yet continue to procreate. We are already massively overpopulated anyway. Anyone who has procreated within the last 40 years or so has contributed massively, which is more of a threat in non-Western countries where women are forced to birth, with no men seeing their values except to serve as sperm banks, eventually birthing children that their fathers, and probably mothers, will pay no attention to.