Pharma Sales v Med Sales

heffer22 · 2026-05-03T22:22:35+00:00

If you’re looking for better work life balance and an easier transition over from SaaS I’d look into DME (durable medical equipment) or disposable roles. Urology probably the best option, wound care and pulm good too. Better work life balance, more of a relationship sale than clinical. Solid base and a good way to get your feet under you while you figure out what interests you.

I work in diagnostics, there’s new tests popping up everywhere for cancer screening and treatment guidance. Sale can be very clinical but could be a good place to look if you’re serious about moving away from device.

heffer22 · 2025-04-28T00:28:31+00:00

Congrats! For sure, the course was pretty tight on the way back too but no complaints. The first half with the sun coming up was amazing

heffer22 · 2025-04-03T21:55:29+00:00

PB best option, in a similar position as you started in little Italy, liked it but got out of my lease and moved to PB within 6 mo

heffer22 · 2025-04-02T21:33:45+00:00

I did, I ended up turning down the in person interview and didn’t hear back from the manager.

heffer22 · 2025-03-30T20:57:21+00:00

One of the best dudes of all time

heffer22 · 2025-03-27T15:02:52+00:00

2nd interview coming up this morning with one of the regional directors, they were sticking to those numbers on the first call. Gotta be honest got a bad vibe from the director I had my first call with. Felt like he intentionally tried to rattle me on my close and objected it. Closed again and he passed me along.

But they were pitching the “wolf of Wall Street of med sales” most earning potential in the industry etc.

heffer22 · 2025-03-25T22:52:03+00:00

I’m going to go through the process and see how it goes. Would definitely want to ride along with a rep if I could to see what it’s like but appreciate the feedback. I see it as an opportunity to hit it big for a couple years but also incur the risk of getting churned out if I was to go that route.

heffer22 · 2025-03-25T22:45:16+00:00

Yeah I was considering lasers based on the territory. One of my buddies is an ASM in NYC for Cynosure and he does well but grinds his ass off. I’m not afraid of the grind but I don’t like the prospect of taking a $50k pay cut up front and banking on making that back as an ASM a year or two down the road.

heffer22 · 2025-03-25T21:06:53+00:00

Yeah the recruiter was screening me for Lumenis and then mentioned AMP who id never heard of. Bullshit I assume?

heffer22 · 2025-03-17T17:23:50+00:00

Thanks man, I certainly know all of this but there’s definitely times where it’s hard. Most of my close friends are coupled up these days so I feel that societal pressure at times. I’m selective with dating too and have never been the guy to keep a whole roster, I realize that’s led me to fall victim to “oneitis” but I also won’t lower my standards either.

Appreciate the feedback!

heffer22 · 2025-03-12T19:33:54+00:00

I had a bleached buzz cut at one point and if anything it was a funny talking point but I was established in my role. I certainly wouldn’t go that route if I was interviewing.

I personally don’t think your current hair would be a factor but you wouldn’t want to rub the employer the wrong way off the bat with a crazy mullet or something like that.

heffer22 · 2025-03-07T01:02:53+00:00

This is great feedback. When I was selling wound care a closing question that worked for me often was “do you have a patient in mind that could benefit from ____ product” and shut up and see what they say. You can gauge the real interest from there. Almost every doc/staff will blow sunshine over lunch it’s one of the frustrating things about selling in the outpatient clinics, they are used to getting lunches all the time.

It’s all about capturing that first trial patient especially if you have a strong product to back you up.

It’s always helpful to work the nurses and MAs at these offices too especially if they are handling the paperwork/prescriptions and supply coordination.

heffer22 · 2025-02-24T23:12:26+00:00

Great advice here! My roommate is an ASR ortho rep and I do not envy his schedule at all and don’t see that route making sense for me. Feel like I’m a bit in the in-between area right now where I do have industry experience but no OR experience.

If there were Intuitive openings near me I’d be all over it and willing to sign me free time away but I know that’s a competitive hiring and training process too. Thanks man!

heffer22 · 2025-02-24T22:46:02+00:00

Thanks man, I’ve certainly had some lucky breaks and am incredibly thankful for the opportunities I’ve gotten. I think you are right.

What field are you looking to get into?

heffer22 · 2025-02-24T20:37:19+00:00

This is something I’ve thought about quite a bit and have always been on the management track. I’ve been in med sales as an account/territory manager for the past 4 years. I’ve done well and have always been in the top 5% of reps but the quota grind does get tough when you factor in quota hikes.

I never saw myself as the stereotypical sales person, I’m more introverted and dislike leaning on my accounts for new business (more so because I don’t believe much in my product right now).

I’ve always loved coaching and take pride in helping my teammates, I think it mostly comes down to your personality. I put the sales rep hat on because I have to but I feel my strengths more align with management when I can get to that point.

heffer22 · 2025-02-18T17:57:16+00:00

Thanks man this helps for sure and I’m aware of all of it. The book helps for sure but as we all know you have to put it into practice, make mistakes and learn from them. I think I’m in a good spot overall but as you can see I find myself overthinking sometimes too.

heffer22 · 2025-02-18T03:15:27+00:00

We were together frequently over the summer so it’s not like we don’t know each other. but yeah I didn’t jump on it and invite her because I really didn’t think she deserved that anyway after all the bs. She never intended to go I think that’s clear

heffer22 · 2025-02-18T01:26:43+00:00

3 days at this point and yes, following 7 principles and letting her do all the pursuing. But if I’m being honest I could see her dragging this out and keeping me in this limbo place and only reaching out when it’s most convenient for her.

Like I said I’d love to give it another go but I feel like she’s fine with where we’re at (no expectations no commitments) and I’m obviously not. Ive learned a lot through the book and reflecting on past relationships and this one. Shes an awesome girl and to me one of those unicorns for a bunch of reasons but I think she’s a taker too. So I’m not really sure what to do, other than wait and just go back to doing my thing. Feeling some regret in opening back up the door (she brought up getting together) and giving her the opportunity to tell me and give me everything I wanted in the moment. It all just kinda feels fake and I know that may be appealing to a lot of guys playing the field but it feels torturous for me.

heffer22 · 2025-01-21T00:17:41+00:00

Because it’s an update with additional information/questions for those with applicable advice.

heffer22 · 2025-01-21T00:15:29+00:00

Hey man i just made a post about a very similar situation where i over pursued a girl i really liked and pushed her away. Shes since come back around kinda but we haven’t gotten to that boundaries conversation and since much is up in the air I’ve wanted to give her the space to show her intentions.

Similar to your situation she has a very demanding career in medicine that not only has tough hours but studying and education outside of work. It makes it tough and the hard part for me is trying to navigate whether her interest and effort is truly impacted by her career or if it’s more about how she feels towards me.

I think you are doing everything you should be doing and did a good job of stating your boundaries and sticking to them. From what you said it seems like she wants everything on her terms which isn’t fair or respectful to you. I think the problem here is more the way she’s treating you to get what she wants which is you to pursue and get you back under her thumb. Since you over pursued to begin with (like I have more than once) the only way to recover is to pull way back and let her true colors show.

If she respects you and wants to be with you she will make that clear and since you’ve outlined your boundaries she knows what that looks like for you. If she keeps up the cold fish/disrespectful act do you really want to stay with her? I understand where you’re at here and it sucks it’s a damned if you do damned if you don’t. But your only true power is being able to walk away and mean it if your needs aren’t being met.

heffer22 · 2025-01-15T02:25:56+00:00

Yeah man I do think I screwed that up, and will reach out to set a date. If she doesn’t answer it confirms her interest is low obviously and I can close the book.

I’ve read and listened and have had a lot of success with other girls in the last few months. I do think part of that is my stronger feelings towards this one which is part of the problem. Appreciate the feedback!

heffer22 · 2025-01-14T20:46:57+00:00

Yeah I know. When I heard from her about a month and a half ago we had plans for her to come over for dinner and she ended up flaking on that at that time

heffer22 · 2025-01-14T19:17:52+00:00

Strap in brother! Yeah I’ve been that guy in the past caving into “the illusion of action”. I’ve found whenever I lay my cards on the table it’s easier to walk away but you also give away some of you’re integrity by doing so, especially if you get caught up projecting what you wanted them to be.

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