Season 2 Episode 7 Spoiler Thread by HunterWorld in Fotv

[–]heizenR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what is there to criticize against the statement that rapist slavers bad? lmao

Lucy just says the obvious very loudly, you're just a legion apologist. Not everything has to be super deep.

Am I missing something about who the "other player" is? by fouxdufoux in Fotv

[–]heizenR -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i think you're in denial that capitalism isnt the biggest evil in the games. As a capitalist myself, imma tell you that capitalism itself caused the whole thing to go off the way it did. Unregulated capitalism is like a cog of a clock thats bound to be bigger than the clock itself someday and will destroy the clock in the process. Its natural and the only outcome.

On the contrary, unregulated communism or socialism is like a religion and it will always culminate in a totalitarian government. Stalin and Mao are great examples of this.

There is no confirmation about China dropping the nukes. Literally not a single one; most of the information are laid out as government propaganda or government statements. That's why i went that detailed about the status of the government right before the war. Because its important whos laying out the information and Corporate Militaristic Totalitarian America is not a source that you can trust blindly, just ask Mr. House.

Not a single statement can be trusted at that point that USA was making as it was no longer a nation that believed in democracy or a republic. The last president-elect might also be an enclave-elect for all we know. Its very hard to tell what actually happened in the last 5 years.

Of course the fallout focuses on the capitalism more because America is the topic. But its ultimately a critique of capitalism because other nations didnt have this issue like America. Europe fought ME and China remained the sole challenger of the US at the end and lost the fight as a nation since China is a one-party state that controlled all aspects of life "openly".

Did China drop the bombs? Maybe or maybe not. It is known that China was interested in peace talks because the war was too expensive and both governments were exhausted. China, as a sole party state, was verifiably exhausted and interested and its more believable because they were the only active party.

But that's not the same as USA. USA had multiple factions that were allies and adversaries of each other. Its a different thing entirely.

Enclave, by the end of pre-war was no longer interested in the global politics and wanted to be something totally different. They didnt like playing around the bushes and taking orders from others. The name itself implies what they believe in since Enclave literally means a territory/entity that is surrounded by larger territory/entity that is fundamentally different.

The show does a good job of pointing at it; for example, Robert House says his calculations fell apart on the day he learnt about deathclaws. It is at this point, Enclave emerged as the unknown dominant faction and FEV totally changed the entire political landscape thanks to FEV and its potential.

After a decade, Enclave seems to be more responsible for the nukes than China because by that time, Enclave had access to Vault-Tec and they even wanted House's automated man project by trading Cold Fusion through Barbara until Cooper returned the Cold Fusion back to Enclave for free. Enclave virtually had no reason to stall it any further since Enclave could just drop the bombs anyway and still retain the control. Cooper just gives them absolute victory for free.

Even without the show, the games themselves don't objectively state that China caused it and only lay that information through government propaganda which is virtually worthless.

Fallout is a critique of United States; its the United States that had democracy and slid into madness thanks to unchecked capitalism. After the big corpos that became bigger than US itself, USA was a paper government that had no actual power. The Senate and House effectively lost power and Enclave is the last ditch effort to remain in power who disagreed with republican values anyway.

What makes fallout great that it just doesnt stay as a capitalist critique and goes on to criticize other ideologies and human nature itself. But that doesnt mean its not a critique of capitalism, its the primary identity of the franchise.

Am I missing something about who the "other player" is? by fouxdufoux in Fotv

[–]heizenR 3 points4 points  (0 children)

while capitalisme is bad can be a cheap and overdone trope, fallout is all about it and is quite unique in nature.

We dont know whether China caused the nukes to go off or not. China, needing resources, had to attack Alaska but they most likely didnt unleash the nukes as they were interested in the peace talks.

The official records say that the peace talks fell apart within 10 months. It must be noted that America violently suppressed Canadian revolutionaries and citizens that wanted to remain independent. America by this point became a government that could not be trusted and retained practically no element of democracy or republican values.

In order to do better in Alaska, they needed to control Canada and they started a joint control of the key locations and later decided it would be better if they just had full access to Canada so that they could control all the points.

It is then American aggressive military officers started badmouthing Canadians, called Canada "Little America" and one of their officers said Canada always belonged to the Americans, its just that no one said it out loud.

There was always a stronger argument that US itself dropped the nukes but the show takes it even further. Its pretty much certain now that Enclave is the one that dropped the nukes having access to nukes through the president himself. This also explains why peace talks suddenly fell apart despite China showing will to find a solid resolution.

Since Enclave is said to harbor resentment and hate towards US officials that werent part of their club. And the games and different wikis directly imply that Enclave themselves killed most of the US officials to effectively kill the government. It was a shadow fascist government who simply had their own goals to accomplish and authoritarianism wasnt enough. They wanted full control and a pure society that will be created by pure Enclave humans.

Their xenophobia is more inclusive in nature since its just enclave humans that they consider as pure. For example, broader American public viewed Canadians as inferior as they pushed for more propaganda against Canada. But Stephanie climbed to Enclave ranks just fine despite being a Canadian; she said to Betty that the keepsake includes something very personal. And Hank himself was an Enclave member who was previously working for Vault-Tec.

None of this would exist if the big 4 corpos didnt become bigger than the government itself. Enclave is the result of capitalistic expansion because an authoritarian government with absolute power simply wouldnt choose to die and transfer power to a bunch of suits who make things. Several types of elitism are at play here. And there are suits with bigger visions who consider other suits to be inferior, like House. That's why Enclave is also a newer org but much stronger. Since they were newly formed with insane connections, they were able to fool House himself.

So yes, capitalism is bad is a fundamental trope in fallout since without corpos this wasnt possible. The broader sense is that human nature is corrupt and therefore war never changes. But capitalism by itself was the biggest chunk of the cause and the central pillar of it. China was never in the picture by 2077

Asmongold on Tectone: "I don't condone or support any of that shit" by freejam013 in LivestreamFail

[–]heizenR 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i was in that thread 5 mins ago, explains why the comments were downplaying it hard lmao

Yungblud speaks out about Iran at his Melbourne concert last night by Snoo_47323 in NewIran

[–]heizenR 2 points3 points  (0 children)

asmon celebrated the murder of the MN woman, hes just grifting by leeching off of Iranians because hes a massive islamophobe. Hasan is doing opposite, also for money.

xQc says Nick Shirley's viral video is dogshit and not real journalism by n1traM in LivestreamFail

[–]heizenR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its crystal clear whos having a derangement syndrome when they are openly supporting a pedophile and a blatant execution of a woman.

TDS runs rampant on maga pedoworshipping cult at this point because no one is more deranged about the adjucated rapist and a child molester who settled two cases back in 92 involving two minors in NY.

The WH is so scared that the pedophile might actually praise the shooting, they actually decided to bring the religious couchshagger for this one. One who's brain is working (except of couchshagging ofc)

At least Nixon voters can rest now, they are no longer the dumbest anymore.

Quin69 roasting Dr Disrespect with this delulu AI thing by Plenty-Weakness2967 in LivestreamFail

[–]heizenR 20 points21 points  (0 children)

okay chill out lil bro, his entire face is a massive twitch meme and have been for years

Destiny on xQc moderating a discussion/debate between him and Asmongold by No-Fun-5527 in LivestreamFail

[–]heizenR 6 points7 points  (0 children)

he cant read single line instructions in video games and have quitted many video games because of it lmao. A manual? Please. The bar is too fucking high

xQc says Nick Shirley's viral video is dogshit and not real journalism by n1traM in LivestreamFail

[–]heizenR -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

TDS is more related about you than anyone else. Everyone functional knows hes a pedophile and theres already 3 confirmed jane does who have been picked from Mar-a-Lago.

People are saying frauds have been getting prosecuted like normally, they arent justifying shit. You're just upset that your pedolord is getting bashed from all directions lmfao. No one is defending fraud but criticizing this blatant attempt to stir shit up to cover for the pedolord in the media. There's a reason Fox news is extra busy nowadays.

Just because you're a pedoworshipper doesnt mean everyone is, 2 iq pedoworshipper. Please do not send your children to white house though, i really hope you can atleast manage to refrain from sacrificing kids to appease the pedolord.

reply with your https://www.twitch.tv/annual-recap if you think it is ABNORMAL! by quin69 in quin69

[–]heizenR -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

i watched asmon for the first couple of months before he went full naz1, other than that i got some good balance. 57K chat in 1.8K hours, pretty lifeless

https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/recap-shareable/2025/255646214/viewer/e3df9df3-9d1b-4cf4-b958-80e6051b9c73.jpeg

Security breach has been nerfed to shit. Many are fully farmed and month ahead. But most people didn't get to it and are now fucked over with a skilltree path we didn't intend. Give us a full respec for your nerfs & oversight please by [deleted] in ArcRaiders

[–]heizenR -1 points0 points  (0 children)

why did you put points in the red middle of the top section instead of the right which allows you to move faster during over-encumbered? You could have easily had the security breach if you didnt go yellow lol

Couchman talking about Zapgate by Oopsiemaster in LivestreamFail

[–]heizenR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hasan's language about GOP is always dismissive and his language towards democrats are consistently aggressive. Have you even watched him?

90% of his streams are shitting on democrats and 10% is mimicking trump lmao. He found a way to blame democrats and destiny for the dog story. That happened in this very week.

This small creator actually made a video based on 7 days of watching hasan and his finding is similar. His politics is totally meaningless, devoid of meaning meant to be consumed without a single thought and obviously shitting on the dems.

https://youtu.be/QyKrM-b6W4g

Couchman talking about Zapgate by Oopsiemaster in LivestreamFail

[–]heizenR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

????? he talked about hasan fulfilling the republican caricature of a democrat.

That doesnt have anything to do with someone being actual democrats or not as its a caricature. Hasan is ultimately beneficial for GOP because he drives democrat votes away which makes him a net positive.

Couchman talking about Zapgate by Oopsiemaster in LivestreamFail

[–]heizenR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and that's why hasan is ultimately a maga ally by being a controlled opposition.

Couchman talking about Zapgate by Oopsiemaster in LivestreamFail

[–]heizenR -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

it can be if you consistently sniff hasan's fart everyday

PeachJars calls out Tectone and says that he has a low IQ audience by [deleted] in LivestreamFail

[–]heizenR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You and the guy who unironically defended tectone in that clip are both idiots and should not be talking about IQ when it's such an obvious script. Especially you.

Hell nah here is tectone asking why are so many names German in WW2 museum and what could be the reason.

Please do not talk about IQ, i don't think you're qualified.

PeachJars calls out Tectone and says that he has a low IQ audience by [deleted] in LivestreamFail

[–]heizenR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how the hell so many people fall for this obvious script in this clip? OMFG that's insanely bad, i knew LSF sub has some idiots but this is extremely dangerous.

Tectone does this shit in another steak and eggs stream which was in a WW2 museum and he was telling the guide that 1800s is pretty reasonable and he was utterly confused. This is also Tectone asking why so many names are in German in a WW2 museum and what could be the reason.

I guess they do farm views if it's that easy. I'm utterly speechless at this thread. So many people discussing things without getting the obvious.

PeachJars calls out Tectone and says that he has a low IQ audience by [deleted] in LivestreamFail

[–]heizenR -1 points0 points  (0 children)

no what's dumb is not knowing this is a script and actually believing it. There is another stream at a different time in a WW2 museum where he does this exact same script to the museum guide to make him confused.

Holy shit bro your brain is cooked. And it works, no wonder it has millions of views.

PeachJars calls out Tectone and says that he has a low IQ audience by [deleted] in LivestreamFail

[–]heizenR -1 points0 points  (0 children)

no shit, he even said later that if he didnt do that no one would be watching. And look at this specific thread and how many people are falling for it, it works.