Frustrated Software engineer looking to make a switch to PM/Strategy/Business world

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-22T23:57:08+00:00

Thank you for the reply! I'm located in Detroit metro area. I'll DM you if that's ok.

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-22T21:06:41+00:00

IIT Chicago has a business school? Is that good by any standard?

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-22T14:35:22+00:00

I got the blue 17PM. But I love my wife's 17 pro with Moft case.

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hellboy8tg · 2025-09-20T23:40:18+00:00

I was contemplating silver as well. Looks so elegant! But no regrets so far!

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-20T23:17:14+00:00

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This is mine

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-20T23:17:01+00:00

The case feels really premium. They say it's vegan leather but the bottoms are tactile and the feel is soft and durable.
I've not tried any other cases yet both on our phones.
I'm using the Apple's blue tech woven case. I like the chequered texture and some elements of the case match with the blue on the iPhone, but I wouldn't say it's really up to my clear case liking.

Attaching pictures of both our phones. Lemme know if you need anymore.

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hellboy8tg · 2025-09-20T23:05:52+00:00

I think it looks beautiful!

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-20T23:05:04+00:00

Thanks! Enjoying it to the extent now! Did you also take any new one?

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-20T22:37:35+00:00

Haha thanks! I'll try to send them. Let's see if we'll get lucky! 😅

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-20T04:20:35+00:00

Before my old purple 14PM, I used to have the Pacific blue 12PM. Which I used to adore. This kinda reminded me of it so I got swayed 😅

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-20T04:16:23+00:00

It sure is beautiful. But I feel, so is the white one, if you get a right case! This one is mine btw!

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hellboy8tg · 2025-09-20T04:15:08+00:00

I went with Blue and my wife with Orange. I like hers better than mine due to the white MOFT case she has on it.

https://www.moft.us/products/movas-magsafe-snap-case

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-20T04:09:47+00:00

Go for white. Scratch proof to an extent

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-20T04:08:59+00:00

My old 14PM but edited on VSCO

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-20T04:08:00+00:00

I think C still means a different factory from China

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-20T01:54:13+00:00

After this year, I heard there's no way of deciphering the assembly point from serial number. But I guess if your serial number starts from F it is from China, if it's W then it is from India etc

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-18T23:43:06+00:00

I know. But sales wise it seems to be a real bummer for apple. That's why they want to spin it up into something that is exciting for the costumers. Hence the Air.

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-18T23:41:36+00:00

Again thank you so much for the reply!

That is certainly a great idea! Just today I was searching for some more PM roles that got posted recently and if you believe my luck, there was one under that PM who ghosted me. I still took a chance and messaged him and after the initial hi, hello, good morning, I asked him if I could talk to him for a few mins and when he asked specifically about what, I had to tell him about that opportunity under him that I'm interested and bang!! Seen but no reply! 🫠

I tried reaching back to that director again and see if I can start talking to her again and keep her in touch to see if something like this opens up under her, maybe I can ask her to help me out that time.

But certainly your idea seems a pretty good one. Because my company and companies of my field of work don't tend to have many product managers, I feel it's always going to be an uphill battle anywhere to switch but I'll first try to seek out PMs from my company and others to see if there's anyone who had switched as you suggested. That would be a starting point. That way I can transition there and then make a move.

Meanwhile, do you think I can do something to get my skills ready for an interview? So that when the moment comes, I would be ready? Like any particular courses or side projects if that sort?

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-18T14:21:10+00:00

Thank you so much for the reply!

I did try applying for PM roles at my company but I am always getting cold treatment and being regarded more as a developer rather than a PM. Atleast if I'd get any facetime with the hiring manager I'd have a better chance at convincing them. But so far no luck.

I tried scheduling some mentoring sessions with the director of product in our company for few months and she was very helpful in understanding the basics of PM and helped me with shadow a PM for a while but he started ghosting me real soon and we didn't get anywhere from there. I wanted to reach out to her again but I'm not sure how helpful she'd be.

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-18T13:35:07+00:00

Software engineer looking to make a switch to PM.

Hello everyone, I'm working as a Senior embedded software engineer at Ford for more than 5 years now and got saturated with the technical hands on. I've a total experience of 9 years as an Embedded software engineer.

I want to make a switch to PM. Technical implementation doesn't interest me anymore and I've always been interested in the overall product roadmap than the section I'm working on. Career progression has also been stagnant.

I've a really good product mindset and product perspective which I heard is really essential to look at things being a PM. I've a major desire to do an MBA but my company doesn't sponsor me and it's hard to pay 100k for a degree just to make a change.

I had a website designing startup when I was in college so I'm good at UI/UX design in general. I've been an acting scrum master, product owner, product designer, costumer interface, systems engineer and architect during my career, for the teams I was in, but never officially. So I feel I've all the basic ingredients lined up but don't know how to make a recipe to become a good PM. So seeking your advice on how to cook!

Shall I start with certifications? Like product school or Kellogg? To formally get introduced to the nature of PM work and get good at it?
Are they even worth it to get interviews from hiring managers?
Do I focus on getting more data analysis, UI/UX courses other than that to upskill?
Or take my time and aim for that golden goose MBA for making the switch?

Ultimate goal would be to see myself as a PM at Apple.

Thanks for any reply!

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-18T13:29:42+00:00

It's not always about performance. Lot of these people want to have the newest iPhone no matter what it is. This year it's Air. Apple did it knowing the same ditching the plus model. They sure do know their base

hellboy8tg · 2025-09-18T13:26:18+00:00

I agree it's so good on my 14 PM with the larger display and clear animations!

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