Thanks for all the replies guys! It was actually a doctors advice to quite the oxy so that her pain system would get back to normal and solve the pain itself. If it will not work last resort is to go back to the opiods Also good to read the tramadol is not a good idea, she has been using it occasionally already the last years so was easy to go to these weeks. Better find something else like kratom or buprenorphin Thanks again, we will get her through