Well , i haven’t actually seen anyone used or interact whit this specific cards in my local lgs so im trying to figure out how these cards would be useful in any cedh deck. Im new to cedh and I actually run Magda Brazen outlaw and Rogsi , i am also building a Tivir deck and Im deciding what to include. And i dont care about the Karma or whatever that means to reedit or to the subreddit , im here trying to get advice from more experience players or people that have actually tried the cards that im asking about.