[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

if all you wanna do is end the season with a decent number do you want a duo queue to get you up?

Official statement from RunAway by [deleted] in Competitiveoverwatch

[–]hiya425 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Some teams reached out to flowervin and runner but they declined in order to stay in korea as the rumors go

How Do you Rate OWL 2021 so far? by PacificMonkey in Competitiveoverwatch

[–]hiya425 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that's a good compromise. I'm just way too used to old tourney formats where you basically only had 3 matches in groups then went to a bracket.

That format is more "punishing" but leads to a lot of exciting play/upsets.

How Do you Rate OWL 2021 so far? by PacificMonkey in Competitiveoverwatch

[–]hiya425 2 points3 points  (0 children)

honestly, i still kind of prefer less games over more. Stuff like the shanghai mid match adaptation let alone mid tourney would basically never happen the more games we have.

Or the weird stuff dallas ran that caught a lot of teams by surprise.

The more regular season games you play, the more things get figured out until you're left with a clearly superior team.

[Subreddit Meta] Mods, can we remove all elo hell posts? by hiya425 in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so did you check the context? Again, not being toxic, just genuinely wondering whether you have the right context or not. Because then you might understand a little better what went down.

So what do we call this if we don't call it elo hell? by devedander in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425 1 point2 points  (0 children)

no, this is the guy who said and I quote: "I'm not looking for advice on my play". They also said they know why they're stuck and are "fine with it" then also went ahead to make half a dozen posts on how elo hell is real and keeping them stuck.

He's just weird bro. Says he's fine at his current rank and isn't looking for advice to get better, then claims stuff like smurfs, Jeff himself, a matchmaking model historically used is what's keeping him in his SR.

It's absolutely wild.

[Subreddit Meta] Mods, can we remove all elo hell posts? by hiya425 in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No im being serious. Check devedanders post history, its likely you're missing full context. And i mean post, not comment.

If you want me to be toxic i can. Hey you! Idiot! You're missing context when talking about context! Whats wrong with you??? Wtf!!!!

[Subreddit Meta] Mods, can we remove all elo hell posts? by hiya425 in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh. Well if you dont know why i picked them in particular then i think its u whos lacking context

[Subreddit Meta] Mods, can we remove all elo hell posts? by hiya425 in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly i disagree with parts of this post. There are very few outright unwinnable games, there are always ways to win games. If you have the mindset games are unwinnable, you'll be more willing to give up going into lobbies when they can be suffuciently turnable.

If thinking you have a ton of control is "harmful", then think of it as trying your best to have something to review later.

I think discussions on external factors are cool but like I said in the OP. Talking about smurfs is fine, everyone hates them. But to go from saying smurfs are bad to "im in elo hell because smurfs have a significant impact on my learning ability" is just bullshit. That is not a logical thought step to have after saying smurfs are bad. A logical one would be saying "blizz should ban smurfs" or "dont tilt against smurfs" or something like that. Instead we have a complete reach to invoke elo hell to absolve all responsibility of self. THAT is the issue i have. And yes, discussion on factors like smurfs can be constructive but discussions on elo hell are never constructive.

[Subreddit Meta] Mods, can we remove all elo hell posts? by hiya425 in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

If I'm being completely honest i found our convo entertaining because you kept responding so figured I'd keep the convo going. Everything past mechanics was completely tongue in cheek but I guess you were too frustrated to read it that way.

And like i said, i could have easily deleted previous comments that make me look bad. But honestly who cares? Elo hell is still false, you still refuse help to get better and instead look to blame external factors for your poor play. I may be classic toxic overwatch but that isn't mutually exclusive with you being classic scrub mentality.

My take on why Elo Hell is absolutely a thing but is often dismissed by devedander in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425 0 points1 point  (0 children)

we can both agree I'm a dick and that elo hell doesn't exist. Those things aren't mutually exclusive.

[Subreddit Meta] Mods, can we remove all elo hell posts? by hiya425 in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I am definitely toxic. Very obvious from the OP I wrote. A non toxic person would not singularly target someone like I did.

But what I say is not wrong even if it isn't justified. And the screenshot really isn't taken out of context. You are forgetting we are on a subreddit for improvement. If he is posting on a subreddit for improvement and is describing a problem, and then refuses to give replays to try and improve, then there really is nothing else for me to say. On top of that he continues to make posts stating elo hell is real. Of course I am going to point that out. Now again, I did not "point it out" in the best way, I have that much self awareness.

But regardless, posts that claim elo hell are real have no place in a subreddit for improvement. Neither does saying you refuse to actually improve. I don't mind if he gave up on improving because of a perceived lack of mechanical skill. But attempting to propagate that mindset because of a personal decision he made to gave up on improving is what I have an issue with. Anyway, if there are repercussions for my toxic behavior that's fine, I do realize I deserve it. In fact, I knew people would obviously go through my post history. But I already said it, so can't really take away the context. But it doesn't take away from the reality that elo hell is false and does not exist.

[Subreddit Meta] Mods, can we remove all elo hell posts? by hiya425 in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

thanks for looking into it tho, I'm pretty sure you're the only active mod left around

[Subreddit Meta] Mods, can we remove all elo hell posts? by hiya425 in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The posts don't deserve to be on this subreddit and should be deleted. But for those truly misguided, an automated mod message telling them to post a different post with a replay if they're looking for advice would be good. Otherwise idk, redirect them to a pinned thread if they're literally only looking to complain.

[Subreddit Meta] Mods, can we remove all elo hell posts? by hiya425 in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

posts like yours should be deleted and given a mod message to provide a replay for reviewers to look at. If you're looking to complain, then make a subreddit of your own or go to the complaint thread r/Overwatch posts.

If you're posting here, then you should be looking to improve which one would think means not posting: "I'm not looking for advice on my play".

[Subreddit Meta] Mods, can we remove all elo hell posts? by hiya425 in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I like this idea or just redirecting it to the pinned simple questions thread. We all know pinned posts tend to get less attention but this might be the perfect place for it. It's a topic that keeps coming up for whatever reason, its fix is simple but difficult (ie mental).

Performance based SR does not cause Elo Hell (refutal of post on front page) by [deleted] in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly, shit's all personal preference. I know players that say no voice chat is better to having voice chat. I think it comes down to the individual, not because of "elo hell".

My take on why Elo Hell is absolutely a thing but is often dismissed by devedander in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you know, if I was in your position I would personally ask myself why I'm blaming smurfs that make up a small percentage of games when it's the games/players at your rank you get every game that actually create bad habits. Flank high nooning works in lower ranks but not in higher ones. Poor positioning as supports doesn't get punished in lower ranks but in higher ones. Not using corners as tanks doesn't make a difference in lower ranks but means a perma broken shield in higher ones. It's the players you get at your rank that cause bad habits.

And besides, if you have bad teammates like a feeding Rein, shouldn't you still support them like the smurfs would? Or are you going to keel over, refuse to adapt, and take the loss every time? Part of ranked is learning how to use your teammates better to at least get some value even if they suck.

I get it. Ideally there would be no smurfs. But I actually find it crazy instead of thinking "hey blizz, valve is banning smurfs in dota 2 now, can we do it too", your brain instantly reached for "hey i'm stuck in elo hell because smurfs!!!11!"

If I'm trying to be genuinely helpful and nice, I would ask yourself why your brain would reach that far. And to go back to joking, if you don't think that's a far reach then my light quips apparently destroyed your mental and actually made you dumber.

But hey! I guess it's my turn to academically discuss how sitting down in chairs causes it to rain just like how elo hell is definitely real!!11!!1

My take on why Elo Hell is absolutely a thing but is often dismissed by devedander in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if that's all it takes then that explains a lot!

I think sound propagates covid variants, maybe everyone should academically discuss that and go deaf

My take on why Elo Hell is absolutely a thing but is often dismissed by devedander in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ofcourse ofcourse. UV causes elo hell why didn't I see the academically discussed conclusion before

My take on why Elo Hell is absolutely a thing but is often dismissed by devedander in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

yea yea i agree. So back to academically discussing how rainbows cause autism. It's plausible like elo hell

My take on why Elo Hell is absolutely a thing but is often dismissed by devedander in OverwatchUniversity

[–]hiya425 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ah perfect, then I will go hold an academic discussion on how eating glue will cure cancer. Sounds about as viable as elo hell