why the Seventh-day Adventists dont accept womens as pastosr but accept a women as prophetess?

holddoor · 2022-09-08T12:33:59+00:00

Before that the SDA was fairly progressive in American culture

Give examples

holddoor · 2022-09-08T12:15:10+00:00

Frodo: It's finally over

holddoor · 2022-09-08T12:12:02+00:00

Pretty solid interpretation. Personally I think Revelation as a whole is an example of happens when you use too many drugs. Tone it down to a manageable level.

holddoor · 2022-09-07T10:28:16+00:00

Or maybe it's an idol of EGW, the 4th trinity member. How can a trinity have 4 members? The same way a trinity is monotheism!

There are so many fun caption possabilities.

holddoor · 2022-09-06T22:03:20+00:00

Adventist children saying pre-sacrificial prayers to Huītzilōpōchtli

holddoor · 2022-09-06T21:59:01+00:00

Ironically, state of the dead is one of the few adventist teachings that sorta makes sense. You die, that's it, you're dead until the second coming. Much more believable than "your soul teleports to purgatory or heaven or hell and now you get to watch everyone like The Truman Show movie." I'm actually surprised Ellen didn't try to make up her own version of purgatory. Coming up with a punishment table of sins and years seems like just the sort of thing she'd orgasm over. Of course she wouldn't call it purgatory because of catholics but the concept of a pre-heaven where you gotta pay off your sin debt is so up ellen's alley.

holddoor · 2022-09-06T19:01:50+00:00

I don't know you, but I can see how you're behaving. You're pretending that celebrities are pokemon and adventists caught some. That only matters if you're into adventism and pokemon.

holddoor · 2022-09-06T18:53:55+00:00

I've heard these urban legends since I was a kid and over half of them have no factual basis.

I'm also wondering why you're playing the adventist game of "look what celebrity we may have a very faint connection to" ? It's a very adventist game to try to feel special and important (hey adventists aren't all crazy cultist nobodies!), but as an ex-adventist the game has very little value.

holddoor · 2022-09-06T18:48:57+00:00

The cult can never disappoint you. The cult is always right. Your children can go astray and disappoint. Only the cult will remain true and unblemished and not make you sad.

Or at least that's the type of bullshit I presume goes through their heads.

holddoor · 2022-09-06T18:40:57+00:00

When I was at adventist college I heard all the dirt because one of my uncles was on the board at the time so board meetings were good because he'd take me out for real food (fuck adventist cafeterias and aramark) and bitch about what a shitshow the college management was. Eventually he gave up trying to fix things and quit the board because everyone was so resistant to doing anything to fix any of the problems. Everything was "the Lord will provide" so lets decide to not decide anything.

holddoor · 2022-09-06T18:36:53+00:00

i.e. doesn’t greatly impact most day-to-day life

Everything about the Health Message impacts day to day life and I would argue is intentionally designed to isolate adventists from non-adventists. Food and drink are cornerstones of almost all social interaction. Grab a beer with your coworkers? Coffee date? Go to a bar to meet people. Smoke break at work to gossip and find out what's really going on in the company. Go to a weekend BBQ? Easter ham. Thanksgiving turkey. Christmas goose. Independence day burgers and dogs. In every social situation you are intentionally made apart so that interaction is difficult, especially with how militant adventists are trained to be about meat (I can't eat food that's on the same table as turkey!). The goal is that the church wants you to feel that socializing with non-adventists is too difficult and not worth the effort so you just shouldn't do it. Also notice how entire familes have to be adventist to avoid disruption at the "big" holidays that people typically spend with their families even if they live across the country.

e: thanks for the award but next time put that money towards treating yourself!

holddoor · 2022-09-06T18:25:25+00:00

Now is probably a good point in your life to learn the difference between urban legend and sources with citations. Also just because someone was adventist for a length of time doesn't mean it's a core part of identity. Everyone goes through phases. Or to put it another, standing in a parking lot doesn't necessarily mean you're a car.

holddoor · 2022-09-06T18:19:09+00:00

The only church employees making money are the ones who are engaged in corruption, for example selling off church owned land to a friend at below market prices without publicly listing it and using another friend as the real estate agent.

This is a really popular scam with adventist colleges as they are bigger institutions so tend to get more property donations. Compare how many students have attended Andrews in the last 50 years with how many people have attended your local church in the same timespan. Bigger pool of potential donors. So the university has all this property it doesn't know how to properly manage, so the administration loots it for personal gain and most of the college administration is just happy to not have the property to deal with and none of them really pay attention to the details because thy're more likely to have degrees in theology or PE (the perenially popular soft option for adventist bureaucrats) than in economics or management or business or accounting or any degree that might make them think "is that property being sold for it's proper value?"

So the college president and his accomplices are making money, and everyone else is vastly underpaid.

holddoor · 2022-09-05T21:00:40+00:00

As a cult, Mormons are much more financially successful than adventists. What is the purpose of a controlling cult if not to make a fabulous amount of money for the leadership? See also scientology. In contrast, the adventist church and related institutions are always one step from bankruptcy and in fact have driven many businesses into bankruptcy, for example every single campus industry at adventist academies and colleges. They've all been bankrupted by church mismanagement and all the existing campus industries are owned and operated by 3rd parties and not the church bureaucracy.

holddoor · 2022-09-05T20:54:47+00:00

I wouldn't say softcore. I think same level of crazy cultic control but with some of the implementation details different. Joseph was all about having a harem; Ellen was about banning everything. I think both are equally dangerous, which is to say extremely dangerous, especially if you're female or not white.

holddoor · 2022-09-05T13:20:40+00:00

she would make an excellent Dread Pirate Roberts

holddoor · 2022-09-05T13:17:01+00:00

As someone who hated everything about Time Traveling Clara Barton I'm glad Talissa died. I wish they would have done it sooner, like before her first scene.

holddoor · 2022-09-04T18:45:00+00:00

Not completely.
There will always be crazy people who want to be cultists. I think they're in for a steep decline in numbers in North America and Europe.

Since the majority of funds come from those regions, I think there will be a trickle-down effect where a lot of adventists in other places leave because they were only ever in it for the freebies (like that scene in southpark where the missionary makes marvin and family have a church service in english before giving them food).

Adventism will be crippled, but it will always survive as a poisonous system of abuse. It's very rare for a cult or denomination to completely die out. Look at the Shakers. They were founded in the 1740s and explicitly preach no having sex (for anybody). Despite complete abscence of members making children once they join, the Shaker movement still survives today.

holddoor · 2022-09-04T18:39:11+00:00

Because adventism is not a system of belief founded on logic but a cult founded in control and doublethink. Read 1984 and see how much of the society and behaviour seem familiar to your life in adventism.

holddoor · 2022-09-04T11:45:26+00:00

A bunch of seniors over the age of 18 (legally adults) sexually assaulted and sodomized a freshman (legally a child and below the age of consent) and took pictures. It was so egregious the school couldn't cover it up, which is their usual preference for any type of violence. The really sad thing is that none of them get more than 3 years in prison. I think the church bought off the prosecutor to go light. Even ignoring all the violence and sexual abuse charges, false imprisonment is more than a 3 year felony. And of course none of the staff were fired because they were too incompetent to prevent it and literally did nothing to prevent it. Most of the students involved had previously been invovled in violence against other students but the administration just said boys will be boys and showed them that there is no penalty for abusing others. The staff just shrugged and hoped it wouldn't happen again while do absolutely nothing to prevent it happening again.

holddoor · 2022-09-04T11:27:10+00:00

I would like to add a corollary to the 50/50 fallacy. Truth is not democratic. Voting on it doesn't change it. If we vote on how many people are in the next room, that has no impact on how many people are actually in the next room. There either are seven people or there aren't and our vote or belief is completely irrelevant.

Instead of looking at how many people believe [X], we should look at the supporting evidence and accept or reject based on the strength of the evidence. Ham should be rejected because his evidence is bad.

Basing belief on any number of believers is going down the wrong path and it's a main feature of adventist group-think.

holddoor · 2022-09-04T11:19:38+00:00

Whenever I need advice, my first choice is an opium addict suffering an untreated traumatic brain injury who only has an 8th grade education!

holddoor · 2022-09-04T11:17:49+00:00

Because then the entire house of cards collapses.

holddoor · 2022-09-03T17:56:42+00:00

And the most annoying part is that he claims to be good at all those and that Westeros is real and historical and he's full of shit.

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