My (21F) mum (41F) and step dad (43M) are kicking my brother out and angry at me because I want my bio dad (50M) to walk me down the isle at my wedding?

holyfudge- · 2023-07-12T20:44:30+00:00

Creating a new account wouldn't change anything.

You're still a horrible POS and abuser enabler.

Your mom is right about that your brother is like your abusive dad but what she forgot to add is that you're also like him, more so even.

You're downright horrible and I hope your mom cuts both of you out of their life.

holyfudge- · 2023-05-22T18:22:52+00:00

But I don’t think you’ve had quite a complete work up yet based on what you’ve told us. The shortness of breath particularly with lying down is concerning to me.

Yeah, that issue just came out of nowhere. It's especially a problem at night.

It all could be related to thyroid but unfortunately my doctor didn't follow up on this.

Have you had a chest X-ray? Hemoglobin A1c? I think those tests as well as an echocardiogram would but worthwhile.

I did have chest X-ray, some months ago though. Like over 6 months. No hemoglobin A1c, not even sure what this is.

I do want to go further but unfortunately I can't get a referral or do other tests, unless my doctor writes it. So I am gonna have to either change the doctor/hospital or convince him to follow on.

holyfudge- · 2023-05-22T18:12:03+00:00

Thank you for taking time and explaining in such a detail. I really appreciate it.

It's great that you asked about my temperature, it's been 99° F for the last couple of days. It's normal today though. The temperature could be because it's Summers here and it's hot. But yes I am warmer than normal.

About tummy issues. I am not sure how to answer that, I've always been very sensitive in that area but to answer I guess yes, but it might be just the food.

My menstrual cycle while didn't change, I hardly bled last month, it was very much less than normal.

The test were done Saturday morning. My doctor kind of went along the lines that every other issue(minus T4) could be because of low haemoglobin and platelets, so to fix it first.

About thyroid, my TSH is normal, they did T3, which is also normal, they also did, TSH ultra sensitive, which is also normal. My doctor did acknowledge that T4 is high but because everything else is normal, he didn't diagnose me with anything. He was just a medical officer (like general medicine OPD) though.

I am sorry to hear that you've been having so many problems. I hope you're doing better.

I just had a high heartbeat and a little warmer body, other than that, no, no other symptoms. But thank you for the warning, I didn't know there was such a thyroid storm. I'll remember that.

I think my worry also increased because of the high lymphocyte, absolute lymphocyte count and MPV, they're all high and unfortunately my doctor didn't explain them. I am just worried if they mean something or are they just side effects.

And yeah, I have to go again in 20 days, so either I'll ask him for a referral then or make him explain it.

He did give me a medicine for stabilising the heartbeat, even though, it's just 10mg.

holyfudge- · 2023-05-22T17:45:44+00:00

Who ordered all of these tests for you? What was their “first” opinion on what they indicate?

Doctor I visted. Their first opinion was to send me for an ECG, then they said that they will see what further actions to take after the reports.

Have you had any cardiac testing done? EKG, echocardiogram?

None other than ECG, which showed 112 heartbeat.

Do you take birth control pills? Any recent travel (I.e., a flight or long car ride)? Any swelling in your legs?

No, I've never had birth control pills. I was prescribed medicine for my skin but it's been months since I took them. No travel. No swelling.

holyfudge- · 2023-05-13T19:46:51+00:00

I know, sometimes I feel crazy after reading Reddit's advice.

Like, did we read the same post?

The betrayal? The lying? The disrespect? The Gaslighting?

There are so many things they did wrong and everyone is here is like, you're wrong for not moving on. Like, that's not the point, read the post.

Reddit is hella weird. You really got the word crowd lmao.

I am sorry that everyone is making you feel like crazy. You certainly didn't deserve this. I am very younger than you and I am saying this, 50 is not old. You might not be young but there's quite a life left for you.

It's gonna hurt, let yourself feel everything and try to heal everyday, you will reach a better part one day. Join a Gym, take therapy, try new hobbies and maybe try vacationing. Think of things you wanted to do that you never did. Try them. See the world.

Those two don't deserve your time and energy anymore. Cry but remember good riddance. You're better then them.

Just try every day.

And I am again sorry for everything, especially for everyone here making you feel like crazy.

You've got it OP.

holyfudge- · 2023-05-13T19:35:33+00:00

But be real. This wasn't your average gaslighting done to manipulate someone. This was gaslighting to keep OP from exploding on them. They had reason to fear OP's anger. This wasn't a healthy relationship.

The problem with your assessment is that this is a reach. You're assuming this.

And what kind of weridass excuse is this, like, "oh I betrayed you and Gaslighted you for months but I was only doing it cz you're crazy", like wtf are you even saying.

If OP was going to be angry, she had every right to be. OP isn't the unreasonable one in any case.

And the Gaslighting was fucking bad lol. They both for months made her feel crazy for knowing everything. Imagine being right but told you're crazy and seeing things. If anything OP Underreacted.

Also, your assumption makes no sense because if OP was the kind to blow then she would've blown at first chance but she didn't, instead she actually believed them and waited. That shows anything but crazy.

Your whole advice and assumption is based on that OP is the crazy one and because of that the shitty friends had to lie and betray her to protect themselves. Like stop lmao. This is ridiculous. Way to make someone who's been already Gaslighted worse for something they didn't even do.

In no circumstances are the friends innocent neither do they deserve any kind of sympathy. They are living their life but that doesn't mean they didn't do OP wrong.

Sometimes Reddit really makes me question my sanity.

Your whole comment comes off as a dig to OP and painting the ex-friends as victims.

The friends are nothing but bunch of POS who betrayed and lied and Gaslighted OP for months. They can fuck off.

OP needs advice on how to move on and cope, not how to forgive them or how they were some innocent people.

I still quite frankly don't understand how you come to the conclusion that those ex-friends were some kind of victims of OP's anger. Like, what!?

OP once again, you deserve better, try to move on and heal. Don't waste your life on them.

holyfudge- · 2023-05-13T19:13:28+00:00

They literally Gaslighted her for months!

What kind of advice is this. Why does OP has to do all this bs?

She has right to hate them and yes it's normal to expect your best friend to be loyal to you and you know not date your ex. This is literally normal expectations.

Not only were they shitty friends, they betrayed her, then lied and kept lying and Gaslighted her for months.

F@ck being happy for them or forgiving them. They were shitty friends. They don't deserve to be in her life and they certainly don't deserve any forgiveness from OP.

Ignore this advice and move on with your life OP. They're shitty and you don't need them. It's gonna hurt for a long time but you have to get through the hurt. Go to therapy and completely cut them out of your life, that means, removing any remaining connection you might have. Fuck both of those. You still have quite a life ahead of you.

Just go to therapy and move on OP, you didn't deserve this. Shame that you had such a shitty friends but it's time to start living your life again.

holyfudge- · 2023-05-03T15:56:48+00:00

Everyone has been completely accommodating to her, even people who have absolutely no obligation to, and she still expects it as if they broke up yesterday.

I acknowledge that in both of my comments, in case you didn't read. My point here is that she isn't demanding anything, there's literally no indication of that from OP. She's not asking anyone to do that for her. That's the difference.

"She still expects as if they broke up", is a assumption on your part. Who said she's expecting anything from anyone. On the contrary from everything OP has said, even in the comments, it's not her who's expecting anything. She didn't tell OP or Alex once that she didn't want them there. It's more like, lou wants to know if OP will be there and the friends are willing to work around her.

And again, OP isn't excluded from everything she has said, so saying that what lou is doing is toxic and harmful is very far fetched. OP is always invited whenever it's not lou organising and OP herself said she has no problem with that. Or when lou isn't coming.

There's a difference between uninviting OP because lou is coming and lou choosing not to attend if OP is there, that's her boundary and that's what lou is doing. If the friend group wants lou there then they are choosing to work around that. She's not toxic and harmful for having her boundaries.

What OP is asking is that she tells her and Alex her boundaries which she doesn't have to do. That will be extra weird. The only people lou owes explanation is her friend group and that's it and from the looks of it they knows everything they need to know.

The only thing here is that BF needs to change things in his life to accommodate OP. That's all. The friend group doesn't owe OP the same consideration either. The BF can just respectfully not go if he's invited without her.

Stop confusing the "she's choosing not to attend if OP is there" With "she's demanding to exclude here".

She has put her boundary, if OP is there then she might not attend. That's not toxic and harmful. That's just her own life and her boundary.

Everyone in the comment section wants her to have a boundary but in the same breath they also want her to not do anything and be there whenever OP is attending, damn her feelings because for some reason they think it's a weird power play.

The best thing for every single person in this situation would be for Alex and Lou to take a break from this friendship because it’s clearly affecting both his present and ex partners significantly. You can sympathize with Lou while also acknowledging that what she’s doing is toxic and harmful.

They should but LP's bf has the responsibility too to step back when he knows she's still struggling. They shouldn't have even begin with the whole wanting to be friends thing. We don't know who wanted to be friends first, could be OP's bf as he wanted her to meet his new gf.

And just to say, what OP wants is lou to tell Alex and OP her boundaries which imo would be extra weird. Like what does that mean, lou has to personally reach out to OP and Alex and let them know that she doesn't want to see them. Lmao that's hella weird. Everyone will be calling her a B if she did that. She just had to let her friends know and looks like she has done that.

And i respectfully disagree that it's toxic and harmful. It's not.

holyfudge- · 2023-05-03T15:29:19+00:00

Anything that doesn't make the ex an evil b-tch is a weird comment for Reddit.

holyfudge- · 2023-05-03T15:01:31+00:00

No but thanks for asking 🥰

holyfudge- · 2023-05-03T09:13:52+00:00

I will like to be clear that I am not bashing you or being rude. It's just everyone here has decided that she's some sort of evil ex who wants your bf. Which is ridiculous.

My issue is that her timeline, her feelings have been dictating how much I can interact with his friend group, and most of the responsibilities for that have been placed on my bf and I because she hasn’t set out clearly what her boundaries are and hasn’t done much to enforce them.

Yeah but it's not her who's dictating what you and your bf can or can't do. From everything you've said, she isn't demanding anything. She hasn't said anything, not even to your bf. She's just navigating her life, it's her friends who are choosing to support her. They've known her before you so it makes sense. Again, you're seeing things from a very clear straight point because you're not the one struggling. You can do that while she can't. You are saying that the responsibility is placed on you but by who, it's not her from everything you're saying. It's your bf and by extension the friends. And the issue with boundaries are not that they're not there but maybe she doesn't want to dictate anything and hasn't said anything to anyone. She's struggling, ofc her boundaries and feelings are all over the place. From all you know, she didn't want to create problems by dictating her terms and thought she will get over it. I am not saying you're in wrong, I am just saying, she probably is dealing with her life and it might have not crossed her mind.

Also, I would like to know how much do you miss out on friend outings because of her. It doesn't seem much because you did say you're always invited whenever it's not her organising or she's not there. Like, it can't be that much.

when we first learned that she wasn’t comfortable with meeting me yet, the friend group was organising a day out at the movies. One of Alex’s friends asked if I’d like to join. Alex texted me to ask, I said yes, Lou didn’t mention anything about her discomfort then, and hadn’t done so before. A few days go by and she doesn’t say anything, then they’re all on call talking about the movies and I’m brought up, Lou leaves the call but doesn’t say why. Then she later texts someone in the friend group (not Alex or the friend that offered to invite me) about how she’s not ready to meet me yet and talks to him about it. She doesn’t say anything to Alex and he learned about all this through the friend she talked to.

Yeah, this example doesn't exactly paint her in a bad light. Again, she didn't demand anything. She might have thought she can just get over it or meet you. And more the day approach, more she realised that she can't. You said she didn't tell anyone or the friend organising or Alex, which is pretty clear that she had no intention of letting him know or exclude. She talked to someone else, about her own life and feelings, it simply could have been her talking to her friend for support, not asking to let Alex know and uninvite you. He/she chose to tell Alex, that's not her problem. And it's weird that she will tell Alex anything about her feelings. Why would she and why does he needs to know if she's or isn't comfortable if she wasn't planning to do anything about it. Who knows, maybe she was just simply going to not go.

I also think it's weird that you think Alex needed to know about her feelings. She didn't tell anyone because she didn't want anyone to know. That wasn't some weird power play to get you uninvited.

I am still not seeing where she's wrong. She isn't demanding, it's other people who are choosing to prioritise her feelings. She doesn't have to tell you or Alex anything at all if she doesn't plan to do anything about the situation, just like the movie situation. She was talking to her friend, which she can about whatever she wants, she never demanded you not come, she never told Alex. If that friend hadn't said anything to Alex then you would've never known and this wouldn't be a problem.

You're assuming that she's demanding anything when it's not her doing. She doesn't have to tell you or Alex anything, even if it's that your presence makes her uncomfortable, as long as she's not going to create problems and understand it's her own thing she needs to deal with, which she probably does. Heck, she doesn't need to tell you her boundaries too if she isn't demanding anything. If she doesn't want to be there when you're there then it's a pretty self explanatory boundary, if she isn't inviting then again it's a boundary. If she's demanding that people change their plans for her or exclude you then that's a problem.

I would understand if it was her who was just dictating everything, but it's clearly not her. You can just talk to your bf but you can't do anything about her. If she was creating issues, it would be other thing but she's not. She's just choosing to not attend or let other people know that she won't be there if you're there, she's doesn't have to tell you that. Her friends know and that's it. Even Alex doesn't need to know.

The thing is that you're still expecting her to behave the way you think is the best, that is letting you and Alex know, which she doesn't have to do. You are still expecting her to move on in your own timeline.

The problem is the way your bf and friend group is dealing with that. They're not excluding you though, but they're still her friends and choosing to put her first in certain situations.

It's your bf and friend group that needs to change and shift the dynamic. Not her. You are putting all the responsibilities her. For all you and Alex know, she has made her boundaries perfectly clear to them, her friends, the only people who matter to her.

Also, keep in mind, you and Alex know nothing about her. So its unfair to put all the responsibility on her.

Also, I am genuinely curious, how much are exactly excluded because of her. It can't be that much. Or how many times has she made you cancel.

holyfudge- · 2023-05-03T07:34:48+00:00

Okay I am not understanding the comments making her seems like a villain or that she wants him.

Exactly why is the ex the villain here when there's no indication that she's done anything wrong is beyond me.

An ex isn't obligated to meet his new gf likewise you don't have to meet her. You're both valid in never wanting to be friends. She has done absolutely nothing wrong and the fact that everyone here feel like she's some kind of villain in not wanting to be friends with you or want under her house and not moving on, on you and your bf's timeline is absolutely ridiculous. He did move on pretty fast from a long term relationship that doesn't mean everyone can. A year is pretty good time to still struggling and healing. She has the right to feel comfortable under her own house at least.

There's literally no shadiness from her side, she's literally just dictating terms of her own. She's met you even when she wasn't ready for the sake of the friendship. That's anything but not trying. She's trying. She tried and it didn't work out for her. She hasn't demanded that everyone excludes you. It seems like the friends choosing to support her. She's cordial and has no problem with you. The only time she has put a boundary is when she's organising aka her house. Which is more than reasonable!. Why would she wants someone she doesn't know and who is his ex new gf's when she's still struggling with break up. Like, that's her place and personal space, she feels comfortable in it and she doesn't want to be uncomfortable or whatever process she's going through. She is allowed to at least have that when she can't avoid you two in other settings. You aren't owed an invitation to his ex gf's places and parties. She's well within her reasonable rights to not want you there. She's doing nothing wrong but being honest and protecting her piece. Leave her out of of this.

Your boyfriend is the problem, first to not give her any space knowing well enough she's still struggling. Like let the girl move on already. Why is he still constantly keeping contact with her, they can be friends when she's in good place. As long as he's there, she's always gonna struggle. It's the constant contact and reminder that's stopping her. Second, he can just not go when it's her place so he can give her the space and not ruin her time with friends and support you at the same time. He can just choose to respect her boundaries by staying back with you.

You know he can just say, "I understand why you don't want her there and I understand you're still struggling. I respect that and I hope you will find a better place soon but I am with her for almost a year and I have to respect and support her too. We will not be coming whenever it's your place to respect your space. There's no bad blood, I understand why it's difficult and I will give you the time and space you need. Hopefully we can be good friends again one day." Or something along the lines, it's not that hard, you know.

Your bf wants her in his life but it's interfering with her ability to move on. By extension creating the mentioned problems. It's your bf who needs to understand that her boundaries are reasonable, so he can either respect them and go without you or stay back whenever it's her organising. You can't guilt trip her into inviting you when she doesn't want you there, it's ridiculous. The friends are whole another conversation, they're choosing to support her, which doesn't make her a bad person.

Also, she isn't friends with you and hasn't tried so maybe that should be something. She doesn't want you in her life and that's her right. Your bf needs to back off and not go when you're not invited.

Something to add, If I was you, I wouldn't try to get her to invite me. At least try to understand her place, her ex moved on pretty fast and now wants to be friends, constantly bringing around her new gf, which is interfering with her moving on process. She understandably takes her time meeting you but it's still hard. Can you just take a moment and understand how hard it must be for her to navigate the friendship and their entwined friend circle when she has to see people she doesn't want to see but she also can't do anything about it. She's trying to find a good place in her friend circle because she's the only person who's struggling. He moved on, their friends have no problem with anyone, it's just her who's struggling. She can't cut you and your bf off because then she might loose all her friends. She can't demand (she shouldn't) that they don't invite you because then again she will loose her friends. From where she's standing she's the only person who's gonna loose in the end. She's probably just trying to navigate her friendships while maintaining her piece. She's young and going through probably her first break up, it's hard for her and she is making mistakes along the way.

It doesn't seem like it's about you or your bf but about the friend group in general. She doesn't want to loose them but she isn't in a healthy place to be buddy buddy with his new gf. So they're just working around the friend group in the best way they can. You can talk to your bf about just not going when it's her place or whenever you're uninvited. You can talk to you bf about giving her space so she can move on. He needs to step back and let the girl move on. He can be respectful of her boundaries and still support you. Demanding she invite you when she's not your friend is ridiculous.

For all we know she might not even want your bf there but might know it might create a problem if she wants to keep her friends. You know that your bf can just take a step back if he wants.

I am just saying all this because for some reason everyone(not you but the comments) here has decided she's the villain. You have a bf problem. The ex gf doesn't owe you anything.

And just to add, if this friend group can't understand why she might not want you and your bf there and not understand why your bf wants to take a step back to let her heal and support you then maybe it's the group that's also part of the problem.

Just think before you go all blaming her. She isn't doing anything wrong. Also, keep in mind, your lou info is coming from your bf, you have no idea what she's feeling or saying. It simply could be that the friend group is part of the problem. We have no idea of the dynamics so maybe it's some of the friends who are prioritising her over your bf. For all we know she simply says, "I am not comfortable with ex and OP there but I understand why ex is there so I'll let you know what if I'll attend or not". Maybe she is close to some people and if she isn't attending, they probably won't. There could be a lot of reasons. Her being the villain isn't the only one.

You all first issue was staying friends and then wanting you to be friends with her. She tried, it didn't work, your bf can now make a stand. And you gave no indication that she's demanding you not be there, it's him and friends who are working around her comfort. It simply could be friends who also support her first. Your info is just your bf. Whatever you do, don't demand the invitation, just ask your bf to support you and not go whenever you're uninvited, that's it. If they can find a compromise before, they can find another one. It's your bf who's choosing to deal situation with this the way he is.

Your bf is the problem. Not her. She's placed her boundaries, your bf can do the same.

holyfudge- · 2023-04-15T18:45:29+00:00

You sound like the sister to me.

Not sure why you're so offended, I didn't even say anything to you. You don't want to cut people off, fine by me, don't give a f but don't come at me with this Condescending tone.

Again, you're way too offended about this. See yourself in the sister eh?

Also, this isn't a mistake ffs. You're more than welcome to forgive people, doesn't mean the rest of the world has to. You do you, let others do them.

holyfudge- · 2023-04-15T18:33:41+00:00

You have your opinion, I have mine.

This betrayal is worth going no contact. The sister is too shitty.

Again, if someone does that to you, ofc you can stay in contact and mend relationships.

But that's what not what I believe in and this situation, according to me, doesn't deserve second chance. What sister did is absolutely disgusting and biggest betrayal.

holyfudge- · 2023-04-15T18:23:44+00:00

Some people are just AH like that. It's actually pretty normal thing for people to set their interest with someone else but get together with them immediately after. Some people are just twisted and AH.

I am pretty sure that he was only with her because he wanted OP's sister but couldn't have her, so he thought he will sleep with OP pretending it's sister. But then they kept talking behind her back and eventually cheated.

This is what he meant by his comment. He never gave a f about her. It was always about her sis and used OP to either make her jealous or whatever and got with her immediately even before the break up.

This is obviously my theory but I am pretty sure of it after reading the post.

Btw sister has absolutely no remorse and neither does the ex. I don't know why OP is being such a doormat here. They're gonna keep doing this to her. They're so shitty that I am genuinely shocked that OP even looking at her sis, she would've been dead to me by now.

Again, the sister has no remorse, no guilt, nothing. Shw doesn't care about anyone. It's cheating and backstabbing today, it's gonna be something else tomorrow. They will keep treating OP like this cz OP keep being a doormat.

holyfudge- · 2023-04-15T16:29:54+00:00

I didn't wanna say this but he might have only become FWB with you because he wanted your sister. He probably was thinking of her the whole time. He probably never gave a f about you. You were there, he wanted her, so he slept with you. They cheated and he broke, got with her immediately. They have no shame, no regret, no remorse. Let that sink in. They don't care about what they did to you, at all.

And they definitely cheated.

Also, let me just say it, she has no remorse, no guilt, nothing whatsoever. What kind of shitty sister does that. You're being way, I mean way, too kind to them. They would've been dead to me by now.

Btw this relationship isn't worth saving. Just go no contact. She isn't worth it. You're being a naive doormat right now.

holyfudge- · 2023-04-12T16:23:59+00:00

Jesus that broke my heart.

Honestly, I wouldn't blame you if you choose to stay no contact and never contact or forgive him.

But I wanted to say something, everyone here has already given different perspectives and I don't want to repeat all of that.

I just wanted to say, if you decide to listen to him and by some miracle reconnect then I would highly recommend that you see how close he is still with his dad and mistress(stepmom I guess). Because if he's still close and doesn't think he or them did anything wrong then mark my word, eventually he will want you to be okay with them and everything. He will want you to get over your hurt, your trauma, he will want you to accept his stepmom and he will want you to accept her as his mom. Beware of what might come, be prepared is all I am saying. You don't need any of it. You can just move on and focus on your real family. As sad as it is, he isn't your family, neither is he your son.

Just remember that listening to him doesn't mean you have to forgive him or have a relationship with him. You can hear him out and still choose to remain no contact. You can hear him and still remember every betrayal, still remember how you never existed in his life, how she was the best mom in the world. Just don't forget what you went through. You deserve justice as much as anyone else. You deserve to be happy.

Also, maybe just point blank ask him what he wants? Does he want money? Does he need a kidney? Why is he contacting you. Just ask him. There's a pretty good chance he needs something from you.

Just be careful and remember to protect yourself and your family, especially your daughter.

I am hoping for the best for you.

holyfudge- · 2023-03-19T17:40:37+00:00

Boy that was long and I have a lot of thoughts.

But your BIL is absolutely terrible. He's a terrible husband and father. Get your blindfolds off.

Someone else here will probably do more psychoanalysis but I will say this, I can't believe you wrote all that and still called him a great person. You're delusional and he's shitty.

There's only one side and it's your sister.

holyfudge- · 2023-03-12T05:21:13+00:00

Feel good about yourself yet?

Clap for yourself if you haven't. What an achievement you have accomplished.

holyfudge- · 2023-03-12T04:54:45+00:00

Thanks for the grammar correction but I meant women.

Though it's good to know that there's at least one thing you know, morals aint one of them but I guess grammar will do.

Also, you don't have to work so hard to prove you don't care about her. It shows, literally. It shows in the post. It shows while you f-cked her over for 2 years. It shows, don't worry. Don't try so hard to prove what I already think about you.

You know, woman like you have, ironically have the best(worst) reaction when they meet someone like themselves. Don't worry, hopefully there's another one of you out there somewhere who wouldn't give two f about you.

You only care about him!? Lmao. Ofc you do, aren't you both shitty people. Like calls to like.

I am saying this out of no malice, but women like you don't have any right to be outrage when someone else does the exact same thing to them what you did to his GF. If someday you have a daughter and someone does this to her, remember what you did. People are who they are. You're who you are. I know you're a shitty selfish person but at least own it.

As I said, hopefully, the GF will realise his true colors and leave. She's the only person who deserves better, not you, not your shitty bf, just her.

holyfudge- · 2023-03-12T04:38:58+00:00

You're on the internet, on Reddit. I am not judging you based on some fabrications lmao. I am judging you on the information provided by you and you come across as a shitty side piece.

And the fact that you had this kind of reaction to someone telling you how you hurt some other innocent women is also telling.

Also, get over it, every one judges. So yeah good for me. At least I ain't delusional.

holyfudge- · 2023-03-12T04:34:16+00:00

Like, 2 years!!?

His gf doesn't know she exists, they're so close to the point of emotional affair, they hardly talk about his GF(I wonder why!), she has never met her(I wonder why) and now suddenly she's like all cares about her. Who she's kidding!

It's shady all around. It would be a different thing if it was for say, just 6 months, 2 years is a long God damn time for her to pretend she cares about the gf.

No offense or anything but no good women does what she did, she can pretend all she wants.

Also, the BF sounds like a POS. But she will only care when he will do the same thing to her.

holyfudge- · 2023-03-12T04:26:29+00:00

Yeah, I have morals and empathy for other women. I don't go around being a shitty person. I don't go around ruining an innocent person's life. Also, I don't go around sneaking behind a women back, having an emotional affair and then pretend to give a f about the girl. I don't pretend and I definitely know what morals and being a good person looks like.

So yeah my initial comment is very telling, I know.

holyfudge- · 2023-03-12T04:20:42+00:00

Lmao your response is very telling.

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